connection between FF7 and 10/10-2

[rkenshin]

One day when i was playing FF 10-2 and i heard the name of that little albed kid named Shinra. I thought to myself, "he has the same name as the company in FF7, could that just be a coincidence? maybe maybe not" then i started thinking, Jenova and Sin have the same side effects of memory loss and stuff, so maybe jenova is really just a sin spawn that happend to survive so many years? then i thought, well Shinra the kid is a genius, so its not crazy to think that he could invent a mako reactor. all three games were also directed by the same guy, so its not out of the question, so maybe ff7 takes place in the same world as ff10 and 10-2 just many years later. anyways, just a thought, and id like to hear what you all have to say on the matter ^-^

 

[Evo-X]

I don't think so. They have Cid characters in almost every Final Fantasy game, so you might as well say all Final Fantasy games are connected XD
Nah, I think they just done that because they thought it was an awesome idea and to just get people to remember Final Fantasy VII hehe. As for the Jenova and Sin thing...I dunno.

 

[Jaxiem]

the connection your talking about is about Shinra from FFX-2 is a decendent or the creator of Shinra in FFVII...it has nothing to do with Cid or Jenova+Sin or whatever you said. A rumor probably started by SE to milk FFVII more than it already is. And for record THERE IS NO CONNECTION!!!!!! ok? im sorry of that may have came off as ignorant or whatever but its the truth

 

[Davey Gaga]

You cannot determine if that is true or not unless SE confirms it. You cannot state your opinion as fact, because opinions are based on the individual views of individual people - opinions cannot be right or wrong - fact.

 

[Jaxiem]

its just a stupid rumor to make the fanboys/girls of FFVII go insane over a connection betweem another FF game. its just SE telling rumours to get fanboys/girls to get the hype back up towards FFVII or other games. SE should stop with all productions with all FFVII stuff...the game was good but just stop with all the other crap they makin for it

 

[Davey Gaga]

its just a stupid rumor to make the fanboys/girls of FFVII go insane over a connection betweem another FF game. its just SE telling rumours to get fanboys/girls to get the hype back up towards FFVII or other games. SE should stop with all productions with all FFVII stuff...the game was good but just stop with all the other crap they makin for it

You can't state something such as this as fact without evidence, otherwise, this is only regarded as your biased opinion.

 

[rkenshin]

the connection your talking about is about Shinra from FFX-2 is a decendent or the creator of Shinra in FFVII...it has nothing to do with Cid or Jenova+Sin or whatever you said. A rumor probably started by SE to milk FFVII more than it already is. And for record THERE IS NO CONNECTION!!!!!! ok? im sorry of that may have came off as ignorant or whatever but its the truth

i never said that i heard it somewhere, but that i thought about this myself, so i dont know where you got the idea that its a rumor... and i didnt say that shinra in ff10-2 was a decendent, but that he started it. how could shinra in ff10-2 be a desendant from the shinra company if i said that ff7 took place AFTER ff10? so you saying the kid went back in time or something!? read posts carefully before posting pleasae ^-^

 

[Jaxiem]

i never said that i heard it somewhere, but that i thought about this myself, so i dont know where you got the idea that its a rumor... and i didnt say that shinra in ff10-2 was a decendent, but that he started it. how could shinra in ff10-2 be a desendant from the shinra company if i said that ff7 took place AFTER ff10? so you saying the kid went back in time or something!? read posts carefully before posting pleasae ^-^

Dude there is a rumor about a connection between FFVII and FFX-2. AND THANK YOU!!! about the Shinra thing...cause that really is a rumor that some people made up or SE made up cause ive heard of this many places...so please dont tell me to read post carefully when i know what im talkin about. but my opinion about it not being true mightin be right, but it what i think.

 

[.:Advent Child:.]

there are rumours that cid's shera in dirge of cerberus was assembled from old parts of the airship in X. the bridge does resemble it......

 

[rkenshin]

Dude there is a rumor about a connection between FFVII and FFX-2. AND THANK YOU!!! about the Shinra thing...cause that really is a rumor that some people made up or SE made up cause ive heard of this many places...so please dont tell me to read post carefully when i know what im talkin about. but my opinion about it not being true mightin be right, but it what i think.

well im sorry, this is the first final fantasy forum site ive ever been to, so im not "up to date" on all of these rumor things. also, you didnt say anywhere in you previous posts that you were getting this from somewhere else, so it sounded to me like you were getting it out of my post. also, my observations are differnt then this rumor that your talking about. anyways, sorry for missunderstanding.

 

[Davey Gaga]

well im sorry, this is the first final fantasy forum site ive ever been to, so im not "up to date" on all of these rumor things. also, you didnt say anywhere in you previous posts that you were getting this from somewhere else, so it sounded to me like you were getting it out of my post. also, my observations are differnt then this rumor that your talking about. anyways, sorry for missunderstanding.

As I've said to Jaxiem before, he cannot state this as a fact. Believe me, there are no "rumours" about this, nor can he back up his statement with evidence. Don't worry, you're completely fine, you're not missing anything out at all

 

[Kentaro]

***Dialogue with Rin from Final Fantasy X-2***
Rin
"You are suggesting that my decision to upgrade the machina resulted in a
number of casualties... ... and that I tried to cover it up?"

Yuna
"You put the investigation in our hands because we were amateurs. You hoped we
would botch the case."

Yuna
"And then, I kept calling you even though I didn't have any leads."

Yuna
"You would have objected to the meaningless interruptions, if you really
wanted to solve the case."

Rin
"I see. It appears that I have underestimated you, Yuna."

Rikku
"Why, Rin?"

Rin
"If word got out that machina pose a danger, people would fear them and stop
using them."

Paine
"So Yevon's not alone in sweeping things under the rug."

Rin
"I firmly believe that machina are an indispensable part of Spira's
development."

Rin
"Even if there is another incident, I intend to conceal the evidence."

Yuna
"You really think people will follow you that way?"

Rin
"I am not alone in my thinking."

Rin
"We are researching ways to extract the vast energy that sleeps in Spira, and
use it to power machina."

Paine
"You're a jackass."

Rin
"I will take that as a compliment."



***Dialogue with Shinra from Final Fantasy X-2***
Shinra
"Aha..."

Yuna
"What are you looking at?"

Shinra
"Farplane data."

Shinra
"The more I study it, the more fascinating it gets. There's limitless energy
swirling around in there."

Yuna
"Limitless energy?"

Shinra
"The life force that flows through our planet...I think."

Shinra
"With a little work, we could probably extract the energy in a useable form."

Brother
"Sweet!"

Shinra
"Of course, that'd take generations."

Brother
"That's no fun!"

Buddy
"Well, still, it is something worth shooting for."

Yuna
"Think how much Spira would change if we ever got it to work!"

Yuna
"Maybe one day we could build a city full of light, one that never sleeps!"

Shinra
"No doubt about it."



***Dialogue with Rikku from Final Fantasy X-2: International+Last Mission***
Paine
"These days, people are always looking for sunken machina."

Rikku
"Yup-yup!"

Yuna
"Oh? Has Shinra been helping you with that?"

Rikku
"Ahh, now that you bring it up..."

Rikku
"Well, he left the ship and got together with Rin, and what do you think all
that research they've been doing is about?"



***Interview with Yoshinori Kitase and Kazushige Nojima in the Final Fantasy X
Ultimania Omega*** (Page 191)
**FFVII and FFX are connected?!**
--"Previously, with a conversation in the FFX Scenario Ultimania, you made
certain inferences, and since it's been about half a year since then, is there
anything new you'd like to clarify about FFX?"

Kitase
"That's true...... Now that FFX International is out and we're in the future,
I'm in a predicament; it really isn't that hard to think of another story
[set] in that world; room for expansion was left possible there without too
much difficulty, don't you think? Speaking conversely, FFX received a splendid
reception and made us think of adding to it."

Nojima
"After FFVII was finished, we were easily able to add Zack's open[-ended role]
into the International version. But, with X, there was an older story with a
partly-finished world and an opening that this new one could be added to and
[, in doing] so[,] complete it."

Kitase
"So, you could say [in terms of] time, Nojima-san decided to designate it to
act as a sequel to VII, if you follow me."


--"It's a sequel to VII!!"

Kitase
"Well, there was a joke right there. Simply put, in VII's ending, Holy came,
and the next thing you knew, it was over without closing things up, and then
it was the "500 years later" [scene] in the future. There's a large margin
buried there. A margin for the imagination. Nojima-san and Toriyama are going
to be filling something of that with VII, though, while they're at their best
and can do it."


--"So, will it become a sequel to VII's story?"

Nojima
"I have a strong feeling that they're going to be connected."


--"Huh, so VII and X ARE connected?"

Nojima
"Well, there's not many specifics to it. I know that what becomes of people
when they die is among them; you could say that it's basically the same. Both
[concepts came to] function along the same line of thought as I wrote the
stories. Sometimes my thoughts just flow out like that, even though pyreflies
distinctly aren't green."


--"When you speak of the dead becoming [something] green, do you perhaps
[mean]......?"

Nojima
"Yes. In my mind, pyreflies and VII's Lifestream are the same substance."

Kitase
"Nojima-san's even considering making use of an idea like this -- [with] an
addition to the idea of life origin -- in a sequel to FFX International.
That's just a little bit of the thought that's been going into what to do with
VII."

Nojima
"That's right. There's something like the Lifestream [in X's world
also]......."


--"'An addition to the idea of life origin'......does that mean you're going
to revise life origin concepts or something?"

Nojima
"I can't say......it's a secret (laughs)."

Kitase
"It's a surprise with how someone from the story conducts theirself with
regards to the Farplane."



***Interview with FFX-2 creators from the Final Fantasy X-2 Ultimania***
(Page 723)
**"So, what of this child, Shinra......"**
--"Among these latest stories, 'connected' is one of the key words becoming
applicable, isn't it?"

[Daisuke] Watanabe
"I personally like the word 'connected,' but there's one aspect where that
applies well."

Nojima
"During the game's progression, various vague things will be tied together to
reveal it."


--"For example, the name 'Shinra' suggests a connection with VII? There's
[what's said] in the 'Graduation Mission' scenario [ -- 'graduation'
referring to Shinra being soon to leave the Gullwings -- ], and the 'I am not
alone in my thinking' line from the 'Rin's Detective Work' scenario seems to
have some particular significance."

Nojima
"Actually, it does. After quitting the Gullwings, Shinra received enormous
financial support from Rin, and began trying to use Vegnagun to siphon Mako
Energy from the Farplane. But, he is unable to complete the system for
utilizing this energy in his generation, and in the future, when traveling to
distant planets becomes possible, the Shin-Ra Company is founded on another
world, or something like that....... That would happen about 1000 years after
this story, I think."


--"So VII's story is after that?"

Nojima
"Well, you could say the feelings I have are like that. When I think about the
characters, those are the kinds of feelings I already have. Shinra is a good
child, but his descendants are going to end up becoming like the president [of
Shin-Ra] (laughs)."

Watanabe
"With you said about VII, after seeing your episodes with Shinra, one of the
people on the [development] staff said that the first shot of the Bevelle
Underground 'gives the impression of somewhere else.'"

[Motomu] Toriyama
"Certainly; it looks like the opening shot of Midgar in VII."

I think its true

 

[rkenshin]

WOW! that just totally prooved my point, and strengthened my beliefs. Thanks for the very intresting article Kentaro!

 

[Serah]

WOW! Sorry for bumping up an old thread but I just now saw this! How awesome is that! I always wondered after I played X-2 if there was a connection somehow. That just pretty much confirmed it. Thanks for posting that!

 

[Anigraphuse]

Sorry
but I don't think that make sense

The connection between all FF serries is CHOCOBO
Its what I realized ( Or maybe Cid too )