So last gen for the XIII series the engine that Square Enix used took a ridiculously long time to develop and the PS3 was a disaster to develop for in the beginning to to mention the whole fiasco with XIV which led to ARR being made, so i've been wondering, with the PS4 and XB1 being easier to develop for and if the engine for FFXV is flexible enough to be reused, could we see more Final Fantasy games this generation compared to last gen where we only gotten 4?(6 if you count X/X-2 HD)
Could we see more FF console games this generation?
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Cor Leonis
Chocobo Breeder
NES: I ('87), II ('88), III ('90)
Three games in three years.
One year gap.
SNES: IV ('91), V ('92), VI ('94)
Three games in three years.
Three year gap.
PS1: VII ('97), VIII ('99), IX ('00)
Three games in three years.
One year gap.
PS2: X ('01), XI ('02), XII ('06)
Three games in five years.
Three year gap.
PS3: XIII ('09), XIV ('10/'14)
Three games in five years.
One year gap.
PS4: XV ('15), XVI ('??), XVII ('20)
Three games in five years?
There is a clear pattern here. I imagine we will see Final Fantasy XVIII on the PS5 (from 2020) in 2023 after another three year gap (FFXVII will likely be a cross-platformer on PS4 and PS5, similar to FFXIV:ARR), if Square Enix is still alive, that is, and contingent on quantum computing entering the console landscape.
Console patterns to consider:
NES ('83), + 7 years: SNES ('90), + 4 years: PS1 ('94), + 6 years: PS2 ('00), + 6 years: PS3 ('06), + 7 years: PS4 ('13), + 7 years: PS5 ('20)
Three games in three years.
One year gap.
SNES: IV ('91), V ('92), VI ('94)
Three games in three years.
Three year gap.
PS1: VII ('97), VIII ('99), IX ('00)
Three games in three years.
One year gap.
PS2: X ('01), XI ('02), XII ('06)
Three games in five years.
Three year gap.
PS3: XIII ('09), XIV ('10/'14)
Three games in five years.
One year gap.
PS4: XV ('15), XVI ('??), XVII ('20)
Three games in five years?
There is a clear pattern here. I imagine we will see Final Fantasy XVIII on the PS5 (from 2020) in 2023 after another three year gap (FFXVII will likely be a cross-platformer on PS4 and PS5, similar to FFXIV:ARR), if Square Enix is still alive, that is, and contingent on quantum computing entering the console landscape.
Console patterns to consider:
NES ('83), + 7 years: SNES ('90), + 4 years: PS1 ('94), + 6 years: PS2 ('00), + 6 years: PS3 ('06), + 7 years: PS4 ('13), + 7 years: PS5 ('20)
Jdeadevil
Blue Mage
I sure do hope so. I don't like the idea that they need to all have a separate engine. VII, VIII and IX were almost identical so if XV is a good success, can't see why they can't build on that.
At the very most I'm guessing we'll see FFXV and eventually in the twilight years of this gen, FFXVI. I know they're already planning sequels to FFXV (which makes some logistical and business sense, though it pisses many people off with the idea of yet more direct sequels), but how they're going to handle them is up to anyone's guess, especially given the fate of the FFXIII sequels and how sharply they drop in sales numbers with each game.
Square can pull anything this gen. If they can and have the balls to, they can pull a Kojima and do a Ground Zeroes-style prologue game that's a separate vertical slice from the rest of the Phantom Pain meat, and dress that up as a full retail release title. That would count to Square-Enix and to their most sycophantic of supporters and fans as a full Final Fantasy release, I would imagine. Maybe more unforeseen development events swamp the company this gen yet again and God forbid, we're left with only a trilogy of FFXV games.
Who knows.
But I'm sure as hell not about to bet money on a good ol' 3-separate-mainline-games-per-generation scenario.
EDIT: I'm not going to rule out FFX-3 either. You don't make a fanfic plot that deliberately takes Spira down a more depressing path again, while undoing many aspects from earlier games for nothing you know.
Square can pull anything this gen. If they can and have the balls to, they can pull a Kojima and do a Ground Zeroes-style prologue game that's a separate vertical slice from the rest of the Phantom Pain meat, and dress that up as a full retail release title. That would count to Square-Enix and to their most sycophantic of supporters and fans as a full Final Fantasy release, I would imagine. Maybe more unforeseen development events swamp the company this gen yet again and God forbid, we're left with only a trilogy of FFXV games.
Who knows.
But I'm sure as hell not about to bet money on a good ol' 3-separate-mainline-games-per-generation scenario.
EDIT: I'm not going to rule out FFX-3 either. You don't make a fanfic plot that deliberately takes Spira down a more depressing path again, while undoing many aspects from earlier games for nothing you know.
I don't know if I'd get my hopes up for more games this gen. A new sort of longevity is in FF's blood, the sort that comes either as an MMO which can be maintained for a decade or sub-series which can be built on for a decade. As trilogies are the standard these days I wouldn't be surprised to see an FFXV trilogy span 8th gen, and we've already got FFXIV: ARR. So long as it continues to sell I expect we'll see the series continue to expand, but probably not more than what we're used to.
I have to say we probably won't get 3 different main games...
We will have FFXV, and FFXIV on the PS4 (although we got that on the PC and PS3 already) and since I am going guess that FFXIV will last until at least this console generation is done, we wont need another FFMMO, and they were already saying that FFXV will more than likely get sequels... so I don't see an FFXVI in the near future...
On top of that I also see more Mobile games also... like Dissidia, and All The Bravest, so I am not going hold my breath
We will have FFXV, and FFXIV on the PS4 (although we got that on the PC and PS3 already) and since I am going guess that FFXIV will last until at least this console generation is done, we wont need another FFMMO, and they were already saying that FFXV will more than likely get sequels... so I don't see an FFXVI in the near future...
On top of that I also see more Mobile games also... like Dissidia, and All The Bravest, so I am not going hold my breath
Jdeadevil
Blue Mage
I don't think many people will mind not having other main games as long as XV is actually pretty good, which it looks.
I don't mind at all FFXV having sequels. In fact I'd be more than happy with sequels as long as the games are good.
They didn't even start full production until sometime in 2011, and who knows how disruptive the shift to current gen must have been for the existing last-gen assets they already put together. Virtually everything before 2011 was I wager to be only preliminary pre-production work that was probably revisited every now and then as FFXIII and FFXIV were the priorities.
This makes sense. I still don't understand how they could plan to release it for ps3 then? Or have I confused things?
Same here. As longs as they don't milk it too much.
A FF XV- 2 would be awesome, but FF XV-3 beyond that, noooooope.
Why not? What makes a trilogy a bad thing? Many stories are told over three parts instead of two.
Thing is, there has never been a 100% amazing FF sequel. X-2 is considered bad by most people. 13-2 is considered bad by most people (not including me, but still). The Tactics advanced games, the Crystal Chronicles sequels. The FF7 compilation are all bad compared with the original.
I honestly would rather they made an awesome game and then move onto something completely new (or a remake of an older FF, but y'know).
I honestly would rather they made an awesome game and then move onto something completely new (or a remake of an older FF, but y'know).
But in those cases I don't think they ever actually planned on making sequels when they made the original game. The original game itself was always whole on its own, and then Square seemed to think it was a good idea to continue it. Like Disney movies whose sequels are also never usually as good as the first. In XVs case they've been planning sequels already, so it's more likely they will expand the storyline over however many games so its sequels will feel like the same game, instead of feeling like a tacked on extra after the fact. That's the way I see it anyway.
I dunno, 13 had a pretty open ending. One that shows Square probably knew a sequel was on its way. They also made a sequel when the original game was terrible...as if they had planned to make a sequel regardless of how the original turned out.
I may be talking crap here
. Maybe 15-2 would be fine though. Who knoooows.
I dunno, 13 had a pretty open ending. One that shows Square probably knew a sequel was on its way. They also made a sequel when the original game was terrible...as if they had planned to make a sequel regardless of how the original turned out.
I may be talking crap here
I think you're the first person I've seen say that XIII's ending was open. I thought it was completely tied up. There were no other questions, no loose ends, everything was over, there was no more threats or issues and you knew what happened to all the characters. They actually had to completely change XIII's ending in order to make the sequel. Maybe they did plan to have sequels, but if that's the case then whoever wrote the ending to XIII, and the series in general clearly doesn't know how to write a story at all...but you have to keep in mind that while people complained about XIII a lot, it still sold really well, and sequels set in the same world are cheap to make.
Meh, I think any FF is open when it's finished. The characters can easily be picked back up for more adventures (except the dead ones lmao).
But yes, it looks like I was talking crap after all. I was thinking of the 13-2 ending
. I'll blame it on being ill! I don't get the chance to use this excuse very often!
But yes, it looks like I was talking crap after all. I was thinking of the 13-2 ending
. I'll blame it on being ill! I don't get the chance to use this excuse very often!