Fail Era ?

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What do you think is/ was the WORST era of Final Fantasy ?
& why ?

START OF EVERYTHING Era- Final Fantasy 1 & 2- ( 1987, 1988 )

ONION KNIGHT era- Final Fantasy 3 ( 1990 )

SNES era- Final Fantasy 4 - 6 ( 1991- 1994 )

FINAL FANTASY VII era- N64 demo- Final Fantasy 7 ( 1995- 1998 )

PLAYSTATION Era- Final Fantasy 8- 9 ( chocobo racers ) ( 1999-2001 )

TIDUS AND SORA Era- Kingdom hearts- Final Fantasy 10/ 10-2 ( 2002- 2005 )

THE VII COLLECTION era- Advent children & DOC- ( 2006- 2007 )

THE SPIN-OFF/ SEQUEL era - FF12, Crisis core- FF3/ FF4 remakes
( 2008- 2009- [ Today ] )


And how do you believe that the upcoming FF13 will turn out to be, terrible ?
 
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The whole VII compilation thing has got to be the worst rubbish ever put out under the FF moniker, but it has been "fail era" since the day Hironobu Sakaguchi left Square. Ever since he left the company, the FF franchise has been a skizofrenic entity with little to no direction or quality control. As far as Final Fantasy XIII goes, I am hoping for the best, but I am not really impressed with what I've seen so far. Actually FF XIII is the first game in the main series that I haven't been looking forward to at all.
 
Easily the spin off/sequel era. I don't know what it is about whoring out a popular title but all of the games have been terrible. No effort or imagination seems to go into them because Square knows the fans will eat them up anyway, look at FFX-2 or that piece of crap compilation of FFVII. As for FFXIII it looks awesome....but then so did FFXII and Advent Children and look how they turned out :gonk: I really want it to be good so that I can STFU with my bitching about a franchise I used to love. I want to love it again!
 
First of all, how can FFXII be classified in the spinoff sequel era? It's a full-fledged Final Fantasy game and an excellent one at that. However, I will agree that Square-Enix has become a little too sequel-happy. Just look at all the sequels that have come out: FF X-2, FFXII: Revenant Wings, Advent Children and FFVII compilation, FFIV: The After Years, etc. They should concentrate on making the main series.

And speaking of the main series itself, I would actually classify it as follows:

1) Early era: FFI, FFII, and FFII

2) Retro era: FFIV, FFV, FFVI

3) PS1 era: FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX

4) Modern era: FFX, FFXI, and FFXII

5) Current era will begin with FFXIII

I really wouldn't classify any of those eras as "fail" because they were all good in their own way and represent stages of development in the series.
 
Summoner Yuna said:
First of all, how can FFXII be classified in the spinoff sequel era? It's a full-fledged Final Fantasy game and an excellent one at that.
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I think Pika-Chew included FFXII in the same era as Crisis Core, the remakes of FFIII and FFIV etc.. because they all came out in roughly the same period and then she probably decided to name this period the spinoff/sequel era because this time period in the FF franchise was essentially defined by the influx of remakes and spinoffs.

I don't think she's saying that FFXII belongs in the same category as the spinoffs and remakes, I think she's just pointing out that they came out in roughly the same period.



Anyway on to the question:

START OF EVERYTHING Era- Final Fantasy 1 & 2- ( 1987, 1988 )

Well I played the PSP remakes of both games and loved them. But the remakes weren't from this era and since I never gave the original FFI and FFII a chance, it would be unfair to say it was the worst period.


ONION KNIGHT era- Final Fantasy 3 ( 1990 )

Again I never played this game, so I can't judge it.


SNES era- Final Fantasy 4 - 6 ( 1991- 1994 )

Loved VI, thought IV was ok and I hated V. 1 bad game out of 3 isn't enough to qualify a fail.

FINAL FANTASY VII era- N64 demo- Final Fantasy 7 ( 1995- 1998 )

VII certainly isn't my favourite FF game, but I still liked it so meh.

PLAYSTATION Era- Final Fantasy 8- 9 ( chocobo racers ) ( 1999-2001 )

Loved both VIII and IX.

TIDUS AND SORA Era- Kingdom hearts- Final Fantasy 10/ 10-2 ( 2002- 2005 )

Loved all of these games (besides X-2)

THE VII COLLECTION era- Advent children & DOC- ( 2006- 2007 )

Gah, DoC was ridiculously bad. Advent Children was ok, but not good enough to make up for DoC.

THE SPIN-OFF/ SEQUEL era - FF12, Crisis core- FF3/ FF4 remakes
( 2008- 2009- [ Today ] )
I really liked XII and I thought Crisis core was pretty decent (for a VII spinoff) So this period certainly doesn't fail.



....and the winner (
failure
) is:

The VII collection era :monster:
 
Final Fantasy XII is an Ivalice sequal somewhat. anyways I love the ps era. FFVII, VIII, IX were great games and caught many fans on first playthrough.

The current era is the most Fail Era in my eyes. The games have took too many changes and ruined the traditions.
 
Start of everything. My gosh, the graphics in those games were garbage. i know that that was the best at the time, but blaaagh. also, the stories were so boring. 4 nameless, job changing every time heroes of light save boring world. This had to be the worst.
 
To be fair, there isn't really an "era" that actually failed, but I think that Squaresoft changed when they merged with Enix. Square Enix is now a very controversial company, doing things like the VII Compilation etc.

Although nowadays the Final Fantasy series seems to be falling into decline. XIII has such a large burden to bear to win back the fanbase SE lost through its constant, contemptuous thirst for chunks of gamers' wallets with stunts like X-2, DOC, AC, the umpteenth I and II rerelease etc. Plus plenty of gamers are turning to WRPGs.

So unless XIII can pull the franchise back up again, the franchise may start to fail in the near future.
 
None of the eras can really be "fail" eras, since for every release such as DoC, FFXI, and FFXII there was a release/re-release of material like AC, FFIV, FFX-2, and Crisis Core.

In fact, I would only call two games a dissapointment through-out the franchise, and those would be FFXI and FFXII. I done care for online gaming but still tried FFXI and it did nothing to change my mind. As for FFXII... I have written a review and participted in enough debates (both here and elsewhere) that I will simply say it was a subpar FF.

DoC, while not great, still had a decent story that managed to draw mei in.
 
Summoner Yuna said:
First of all, how can FFXII be classified in the spinoff sequel era? It's a full-fledged Final Fantasy game and an excellent one at that..

And speaking of the main series itself, I would actually classify it as follows:

1) Early era: FFI, FFII, and FFII

2) Retro era: FFIV, FFV, FFVI

3) PS1 era: FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX

4) Modern era: FFX, FFXI, and FFXII

5) Current era will begin with FFXIII
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Sorry just tried to do something different and creative by marking the Era's in a different way & not the same old, same old. Final Fantasy 12 is a full-fledged Final Fantasy yes, but it did come out during a start of a Era when heaps of sequels were coming out. Was meant to show, that FF12 was in the middle of the Era. Want to do something different ? Fair enough, won't mind. Wasn't meant to insult Final Fantasy 12 fans. Sorry guys.
Summoner Yuna said:
I really wouldn't classify any of those eras as "fail" because they were all good in their own way and represent stages of development in the series.
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That's good news, happy that somebody loves the series no matter what happens or how much the series changes. ^-^
 
I think every era had its fair share of bad games, with Square trying to milk its cash cow. Maybe we just forgot about them :)

Anyone remember Mystic Quest, Ehrgeiz, the Chocobo spin-offs, etc. My opinion is that the quality of the games is the result of how much money and effort Square puts into each one, and generally only the main numbered series gets a lot of both. I actually believe that we are quite lucky that some of the experiments turned out to be good games (Tactics and Kingdom Hearts).
 
I'm going to go with the VII compilation era (which I'm making all the titles in one >.>), FFVII isn't near the top of my list as the best FF game, Crisis Core was okay but not brilliant, Dirge of Cerberus was just rather pointless imo, as was Advent Children which just seemed like eye candy, and wtf is Before Crisis anyway? :wacky:

I'd normally go with the spin-off/sequel era, however, FFXII is overlooked to a certain degree, Revenant Wings, Tactics Advanced 2 and War of the Lions are all fantastic games...the only problem is all these shitty FFI/FFII/FFIII/FFIV remakes that we don't need >.>, yes it gives newer SE fans to play them but I'd rather have them concentrate on FFXIII and such.
 
I hope everyone knows there are ten different teams working for Square Enix and only a few of them work with Final Fantasy games. One of them works STRICTLY with Ivalice related Final Fantasy games (And other non-FF games).

As for me... I couldn't break it down to an era as I liked some of the games in some eras.

But... I can say that Final Fantasy I was fail, III was a fail, V was a major fail (My least favorite), VI was a fail (Boring), VIII was a fail (Junction System and all human PC cast), X was a fail (FAR too easy), XI was a fail (Can't play it, thus it's a fail for me) and XII is borderline failure.
 
Sir Kenneth said:
The whole VII compilation thing has got to be the worst rubbish ever put out under the FF moniker, but it has been "fail era" since the day Hironobu Sakaguchi left Square. Ever since he left the company, the FF franchise has been a skizofrenic entity with little to no direction or quality control. As far as Final Fantasy XIII goes, I am hoping for the best, but I am not really impressed with what I've seen so far. Actually FF XIII is the first game in the main series that I haven't been looking forward to at all.
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Seconding this. It's been a noticeable decline in quality since they lost Sakaguchi. Not to mention that in losing him, they lost Uematsu as well which was a huge loss.

Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were pretty awesome though. <3 Mistwalker so far.

greed378 said:
The era of Nintendo. The ds/gamecude/wii games are all pretty bad.
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You come off as a blatant sony fanboy there, just saying. The NES games gave the series it's beginnings, and a lot of the flavor that we enjoy in the modern games today. The SNES games are classics, hell VI often competes with VII for best game in the series. As for the DS/Gamecube/Wii, all they've recieved in remakes and spin-offs, so I don't see what your point is there.
 
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Feh the sequel era I guess, it all just seems to be going over board, its all spread over various platforms, its hard to keep up, FFTactics and all related SUCKS, I really hate those games, so like, those for me. I think the whole FFVII compilation is going to far aswel

Whatever was wrong with just sticking to the main numbered series, I knew where I stood then

Everything to do with sequels (even though I BUY them) and related shit, is my fail. Although related moreso than sequels I guess seeing as I cant abide tactics
 
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