Odin: Useful Or Useless

[DarkClaymore]

I saw many people call Odin or Yojimbo (after all, they are based on the same idea) useless and such.
I found that really strange because Odin, especially in the older FFs, is my most useful Esper and one of my most useful abilities (if not the most useful one).
Once I get him, I hardly use the Fight/Attack command. I just spam him every battle and make things much faster and easier.
IMO he is probably the most useful ability FFs ever offered.

So what do you think of Odin? Useful? Useless? Something in the middle?

 

[Ilyena]

I saw many people call Odin or Yojimbo (after all, they are based on the same idea) useless and such.

How so?

I thought Odin was useful enough. In the later games, summons just aren't all that useful anyway. Odin was very useful if you just wanted a quick kill though. Although in VIII, he tended to appear when I didn't want him too. Like when I was trying to mug malboros for items.

I never really used Yojimbo all that much. I didn't appreciate having to pay him money to use his abilities. >_> I only used him a few times just to see what abilities he had but that was it.

 

[HighwindPilot]

I've never really seen anyone ever bash Odin's use.

His Zantetsuken is great for quick kills. And in most installments, he's one of the first of the tier 1 kind of summons that you can get. So his Gungnir is very useful if you want to deal a powerful blow with minimal MP (compared to the stronger summons).

Not to mention how useful he is for breaking opponents in Dissidia.

I've always liked Odin.

 

[DarkClaymore]

How so?

What "how so"? Yojimbo basically replaces Odin, isn't he?
Don't tell me I am the only one who thinks so
C'mon, he has the attack which kills all enemies at once and all.

I thought Odin was useful enough. In the later games, summons just aren't all that useful anyway. Odin was very useful if you just wanted a quick kill though. Although in VIII, he tended to appear when I didn't want him too. Like when I was trying to mug malboros for items. .

Totally agree with that. IMO it is because they have long cut scenes.
That kills Odin's role as a "quick killer" and makes summoning as a whole really annoying .

I never really used Yojimbo all that much. I didn't appreciate having to pay him money to use his abilities. >_> I only used him a few times just to see what abilities he had but that was it.

I still don't get how Yojimbo works. Once I have paid him 100,000 gil and he didn't use Zanmato. Other time I payed him 1 gil and he used Zanmato. Really strange
I think it is quite random, so it is even more like Odin.

 

[Sabriel]

I'm not gonna vote because I haven't through the later games yet, but I have played through FF3 where Odin with summoner was COMPLETELY useless, yes I know it hits all enemies and it's a summon, but most of the time it misses and plus, a dark knight can do that.

 

[DarkClaymore]

I'm not gonna vote because I haven't through the later games yet, but I have played through FF3 where Odin with summoner was COMPLETELY useless, yes I know it hits all enemies and it's a summon, but most of the time it misses and plus, a dark knight can do that.

He doesn't hit all enemies, he KILLS all enemies.
But since you talk about Dark Knight, I assume you have played the DS version, as the one in the NES version could do nothing aside of attacking.
So I don't know whatever Odin's effects was changed in the DS version.
But tbh I doubt that. And he doesn't really miss much usually.
I think his hit rate is around 80% or something (just guessing) as he works well most of the time for me.

I've never really seen anyone ever bash Odin's use.

^ Here you see one

 

[HighwindPilot]

I still don't get how Yojimbo works. Once I have paid him 100,000 gil and he didn't use Zanmato. Other time I payed him 1 gil and he used Zanmato. Really strange

I think the way it works is that Yojimbo has a kind of percentage/ratio to his chances of using Zanmato, and that for every range of money he receives, the higher the chances are.

A (completely hypothetical) example:

1-99 gil - 1/10 or 10% chance
100-199 gil - 2/10 or 20% chance
200-299 gil - 3/10 or 30% chance until the next ratio number increase (300 in this case) is met.

I'm guessing it works something like this, but with larger numbers (though you should never have to give him anywhere near 100K). That would explain how you met both fo those situations.

I think it is quite random, so it is even more like Odin.

I wouldn't necessarily say so. In most games he was in, it seemed like Odin would use Zantetsuken as a default for those that could be instantly killed, and Gungnir would be a secondary attack in the case that they couldn't. The game likely read the stats or ID number (assuming they use a system like this) of the foes and based the attack selection on which could or couldn't.

Though, even then, he didn't always use Zantetsuken on the opponents that could, so maybe there's a ratio/percentage involved in this mechanic as well.
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Sorry. =|

 

[Rey]

Tbh I really like Odin and he is pretty useful in Crisis Core VII and FF Iv. I liked his Zantezuken because it would kill in a second if it hits. The thing about Odin is that he is not more useful than the other summons. Also I liked Yojimbo the same way as Odin. Zanmato was epic and so was Zanteszuken. I like his new look in XIII

 

[Tokimadoushi]

Odin's saved my sorry ass many a time. And I will never forget running into Dark Bahamut (totally by accident) in X and selling my soul to Yojimbo for Zanmato (it worked).
Gilgamesh, on the other hand...

 

[Ansem Casto]

I didn't really care for Odin at all in VIII. It was a lot like Angelo Rush... never seemed to happen when you wanted/needed it to.

Once I got him in IX... he was like ALL I ever used. I absolutely loved Odin in IX.

Then X came around with Yojimbo and I liked him for awhile even tho I couldn't use him right after I got him seeing as how he took like ALL my money when I got him. Then I got Anima and s*** canned all my other Aeons besides Bahamut.

So I gotta say inbetween on this one. Seeing as how I loved him in IX, kinda liked him in X, didn't like him at all in VIII, never used him in any other games.

 

[Bambi]

He was very useful in VIII. It was the only way I could get rid of marlboros ¬¬

I'm not really one for using summons in regular battle anyway, so he would just turn up every so often and take an enemy down without my having to do much xD

Of course Odin in a boss battle (FFVII) just did damagem, but then, so did every other summon, so I had no issues with that, and in regular battle he'd use Zanetzuken..... Im not sure if he used it all the time mind, as I said, I dont use summons much

So I didnt find him uselss, just as good, if not better in some instances than other summons

I refuse to pay for Yojimbo though. As much as I can one hit kill any Dark Aeon, I'd rather do it the hard way and feel like Ive achieved it myself...plus wtf use does an aeon have for gil ANYWAY?

 

[V_Translanka]

He's the only Esper that alters the Speed stat...well, I hear one of the new ones in FFVI Advance does too, but he's probably the first of only two...He's also the only one that powers up...

 

[Volbia]

didn't like him at all I always had bad luck with the instant death spells. didn't even get dark matter in ff9 until I got the ancient aroma. once you get that he becomes a VERY useful summon more powerful than ark in many cases and cheap on mp. so basically not useful to me except in ff9.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Odin hardly used always useful thius guy GF Summon Esper Aeon whatever you call him always had a trick tousing him like only showing up evert now and then or having to pay him to kill some monster the only useful summon is one you can control youself?

 

[Dirges for Damcyan]

I found him very useful in VIII, he was that face that you were (almost) always hoping to see. I don't tend to rely on summons very much in other games, except for boss battles, and Odin does not work against bosses. I occasionally would try to use him to take out large groups of powerful enemies in III and IV, ones that I could not kill quickly any other way and that posed a significant danger to my party, but I find that to be his only use.

 

[raiden95]

i find odin useful at only certain times


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[Braveheart]

Odin is useful because he can with one strike defeat all your opponents.


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[Valkyrur]

I think it depends on the circumstances of the present situation. At some times, when the situation is desperate- especially those times against an ordinary random monster- he can be such a life saver whom you would kiss.

However, most of the time, I have no need for him, nor would I bother to summon him seriously for his ability to finish an opponent in one move. Firstly, with such a low chance of success, I'd rather summon others like Bahamut, or whatever that actually deals damage in gargantuan amount.

Secondly, it's a pure waste of MP if it fails, and with such high probability of failure, I'd rather not waste it unless it costs only 1 MP. (E.G. Final Fantasy VI, Equip the Economizer)

Still, for entertainment, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to summon him from time to time to take out random monsters, and perhaps, the big bad boss himself.

 

[Braveheart]

I think it depends on the circumstances of the present situation. At some times, when the situation is desperate- especially those times against an ordinary random monster- he can be such a life saver whom you would kiss.

However, most of the time, I have no need for him, nor would I bother to summon him seriously for his ability to finish an opponent in one move. Firstly, with such a low chance of success, I'd rather summon others like Bahamut, or whatever that actually deals damage in gargantuan amount.

Secondly, it's a pure waste of MP if it fails, and with such high probability of failure, I'd rather not waste it unless it costs only 1 MP. (E.G. Final Fantasy VI, Equip the Economizer)

Still, for entertainment, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to summon him from time to time to take out random monsters, and perhaps, the big bad boss himself.

You are right, but it's good to summon Odin when you are fighting with two or more opponents and of course you won't summon him if the opponents are weak, you will summon him if the opponents are strong.

 

[cooky560]

I think that Odin is like any other summon tbh, each have thier own benefits and costs.

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