One Thing About FFX I Don't Get

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Ok well firstly if you haven't played FFX and don't want it spoiled for you press the back button.

Now we all know that in the game Tidus is taken from 'Dream Zanarkand' by Jecht (Sin). But one thing which I don't get is how Jecht was taken from Dream Zanarkand. Was it ever explained in the game? If Jecht was taken by Sin (the Sin defeated by Braskas party), why would Sin want to take Jecht? Jecht had a reason to take Tidus but I can't see why Sin would want to take Jecht.
 
He went missing when out training, and was taken by sin to Spira. Supposedly he touches Sin and not the other way round, so maybe that's why.
 
Hmm that does make sense, I guess I assumed that Sin only travelled to Dream Zanarkand with the intent on bringing someone to Spira. It didn't occur to me that Sin sometimes went there just to chill and if someone happened to tag along for the ride home Sin just thought "meh".
 
here's something i dont get. if jecht is sin, and jecht is only a dream of the fayth, wouldnt the best way to kill sin would be for the fayth to stop dreaming of jecht and/or zanarkand. jecht is sin, no jecht no sin right?
 
monsoon said:
here's something i dont get. if jecht is sin, and jecht is only a dream of the fayth, wouldnt the best way to kill sin would be for the fayth to stop dreaming of jecht and/or zanarkand. jecht is sin, no jecht no sin right?
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That's why you have to take out Yu Yevon, because he's using the Fayth to summon Dream Zanarkand (hense why Tidus ends up in that dream when he touches the Fayth on the top of Mt Gagazet) The dreams of the Fayth are what is keeping Zanarkand alive, so aslong as Yu Yevon is using the power of these Fayths, they'll continue to dream.
 
so in other words, the fayth (even though tired of dreaming) is being forced by yu yevon to keep dreaming? and to free the fayth, they had to take out yu yevon? that makes alot of sense, man this whole time i didnt even know the fayth were being controlled. ima have to play the game again, thanks for the clarification DL.
 
Think of Dream Zanarkand the same way as Aeons. If you Summoned, say Bahamut and kept him with you for the whole time, you'll be constantly using the Fayth.

With Dream Zanarkand, it's the same, because Yu Yevon has summoned the Dream Zanarkand, which exists in parrarel time to Spira, the summoning is never ending, meaning the Fayth are being used every second of every day, with Yu Yevon gone, the Dream Zanarkand is no longer being summoned because noone is using the Fayth anymore, so the Fayth are free.
 
FFX's plot was, in large part, a long series of puppets being controlled for a greater purpose... even if they didn't realize it. I think that's one of the few things that really sets this title aside from the others.

You don't necessarily have to play the game again... if you have a game save before Tidus goes to the top of the mountain and talks to the Fayth all you need to do is watch that conversation exchange again. It's all implied right there.
 
Well one thing i dont get is where do the Dark Aeons come from?
It`s ok that people have them, but where do they get them?
In tempels?
And Anima, and bahamut has no summoner.
And where do Penance come from???

Well, the story of ffx says that Sin was the biggest, and most Power full,
Monster in Spira.
And averyone was scared him.
But Penance has 12 000 000HP
and Sin has only 140 0000HP + Hands 650 000HP, and 30 000.
Well, i think it look like Penance, Omega , all the dark Aeons is a lot more Power Full than Sin!
 
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monsoon said:
here's something i dont get. if jecht is sin, and jecht is only a dream of the fayth, wouldnt the best way to kill sin would be for the fayth to stop dreaming of jecht and/or zanarkand. jecht is sin, no jecht no sin right?
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that is true but the fayths didnt know that they could stop jecth by stop dreaming but the reason they didnt stop is cause they wanted tidus to kill sin
 
In the game though, Jecht is the one who chooses Tidus to come to Spira. Jecht is Sin, he instructs Auron to watch over his son, but when the time comes for Sin to be defeated, Tidus is chosen because of Jecht's bond with Tidus.

So that makes me wonder, why was Jecht the un/lucky one to go before? Who was Sin at that point where Jecht ventured on to defeat it with Young Auron and High Summoner Braska? Do you think they could have been from Dream Zanarkand as well? Hmmm...

But yeah, remember, once Jecht was pulled into Spira, he was bailed out of jail by Braska and Auron for being drunk, right?
 
BustaMo said:
In the game though, Jecht is the one who chooses Tidus to come to Spira. Jecht is Sin, he instructs Auron to watch over his son, but when the time comes for Sin to be defeated, Tidus is chosen because of Jecht's bond with Tidus.

So that makes me wonder, why was Jecht the un/lucky one to go before? Who was Sin at that point where Jecht ventured on to defeat it with Young Auron and High Summoner Braska? Do you think they could have been from Dream Zanarkand as well? Hmmm...

But yeah, remember, once Jecht was pulled into Spira, he was bailed out of jail by Braska and Auron for being drunk, right?
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The last one to defeat Sin before Braska was High Summoner Yocun, which was apparently 100 years before the events of FFX, and 50 years before Mika became a Maester. So for Jecht coming to Spira, I doubt he'd have had any connection. As far as Jecht goes, he'd just gone out for training one day, Sin was there, Jecht got into contact with it and was transported to Spira.

Then ofcourse, he was put in jail, he was probably drunk, and the people probably thought he was crazy being from Zanarkand and all that and not having a clue what the hell Spira, let alone Sin or Yevon was.

From the flash backs of Braska's pilgrimage, you see that Jecht and Auron alike are trying to think of a way to break the cycle, but never actually find a way. Braska goes ahead with the Final Summoning which the hope that "this time, it might not come back."

Auron tells Tidus on the airship that Jecht wanted him to have a shot at life (you have to speak to him a few times) and what-not.

Take a look at this:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=2000008&topic=21477330
 
If Jecht was taken by Sin (the Sin defeated by Braskas party) <----Jecht was one of the guardians for Braska. So you meant to say: (the sin that was defeated by another summoner) Cuz Jecht and Auron were guarding Braska. So yeah it would be immpossible for Jecht to be taken by the Sin that Braska defeated since Jecht was the Final summoning for him since he afford his life to become the final Aeon and defeat that sin. Hence Braska was killed by The Final Summoning A.K.A Jecht.

Anyways u are right though i dont remember a part of the party ever talking bout how Jecht was carried over to Spira. So yeah I don't know :/
 
The thing i don't get is how Jecht came in contact with Sin...he was in the Dreamworld Zanarkand, correct? Sin attacks spira, and sin can attack the dreamworld zanarkand also? Hah i never got that..
But whatever, great game :]
 
going back to the original question... i think that is something that the writers of this game just kind of glossed over without explaining. i'm assuming that since Sin can clearly travel into the "dream world" somehow, it just happened to run into jecht on its visit and... teleported him back to spira? doesn't make much, sense, does it...
 
It would seem that Dream Zanarkand is physically located somewhere in Spira. When you're in the ruins of Zanarkand, you see that the sky is glowing in the distance, and Tidus says something like "it looks like the Farplane" and Auron says "close". Which is typically cryptic of Auron, but I assume that he meant that it's actually Dream Zanarkand, out in the ocean off the coast of the ruins of real Zanarkand, which is similar to the Farplane because it's made up of pyrefly manifestations.

If that's the case, then Sin can indeed just stumble upon Dream Zanarkand and happen to pick up someone who's flailing, drunk, in the water, but it seems strange that it only happened once in 1000 years. This also means that it should theoretically have been possible for Tidus and Yuna etc. to go and visit Dream Zanarkand themselves with the Airship, so it's a shame that they didn't.
 
daywalk3r said:
going back to the original question... i think that is something that the writers of this game just kind of glossed over without explaining. i'm assuming that since Sin can clearly travel into the "dream world" somehow, it just happened to run into jecht on its visit and... teleported him back to spira? doesn't make much, sense, does it...
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The thing that kinda stumped me was Sin's motivation for bringing Jecht from dream Zanarkand to Spira. Jecht had a reason for bringing Tidus to Spira, but the previous Sin seemed to just bring Jecht to Spira for no reason. But now it looks as though Jecht was was brought to Spira simply by accident, and then through a chain of events he happened to defeat Sin with Braska and Auron.
 
SaShman said:
The thing that kinda stumped me was Sin's motivation for bringing Jecht from dream Zanarkand to Spira. Jecht had a reason for bringing Tidus to Spira, but the previous Sin seemed to just bring Jecht to Spira for no reason. But now it looks as though Jecht was was brought to Spira simply by accident, and then through a chain of events he happened to defeat Sin with Braska and Auron.
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I'd go with that, it was simply an accident. The Sin that Braska defeated had been around for anything between 50 - 100 years, so it's doubtful Jecht had any connection with it.
 
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