Aerith VS. Sephiroth - Who has the Stronger Will?
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Æon Flux
I dont discriminate I hate everyone equally
I think their Will is fairly equal...I mean if you think about it Aeris saved the planet with her will and Sephiroth came back from the lifestream with his...I believe neither ones is stronger than the other...
That's what I think too. I mean, look. They both showed what they can do just with will power.
This is a great thread!
Its a battle of Good vs Evil at its purest!
The selfish desire and singular driven Sephiroth:seph:
and
The altruitic and benevolent Aeris/Aerith:aerith:
I would think they are both equally driven by there convictions and motivations
(does morality come into this?), Sephiroth is obviously not entirely evil but has a limit to his tolerance and will not hesitate to kill those opposed to goal, or even those who annoy him?
Aeris/Aerith has the aura of a goddess about her. Look how she help the people of
Midgar be rid of the GeoStigma, from beyond the Veil no less, Seph can act in death but it tends not go well.
I feel Sephiroth is also more willing to go further than Aeris in terms of how much he is willing to sacrifice, the world comes to mind when I think of how far Sephiroth will go.
Aeris did all she could to save the world, but she was limited in how much control she could wield in her attempt.
There ultimate powers Meteor and Holy, I assume are of equal power. Its only her death that separates how far they did go in FFVII, she had no intention of dying, Seph saw her as the only one capable of stopping him.
So he eliminated her.
Equal in strength of will but not able to demonstrate it Equally.
Its a battle of Good vs Evil at its purest!
The selfish desire and singular driven Sephiroth:seph:
and
The altruitic and benevolent Aeris/Aerith:aerith:
I would think they are both equally driven by there convictions and motivations
(does morality come into this?), Sephiroth is obviously not entirely evil but has a limit to his tolerance and will not hesitate to kill those opposed to goal, or even those who annoy him?
Aeris/Aerith has the aura of a goddess about her. Look how she help the people of
Midgar be rid of the GeoStigma, from beyond the Veil no less, Seph can act in death but it tends not go well.
I feel Sephiroth is also more willing to go further than Aeris in terms of how much he is willing to sacrifice, the world comes to mind when I think of how far Sephiroth will go.
Aeris did all she could to save the world, but she was limited in how much control she could wield in her attempt.
There ultimate powers Meteor and Holy, I assume are of equal power. Its only her death that separates how far they did go in FFVII, she had no intention of dying, Seph saw her as the only one capable of stopping him.
So he eliminated her.
Equal in strength of will but not able to demonstrate it Equally.
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I would sya they were both equal and that ic ould go either way with the two. Aeris wantwed to protexct her friends and the Planet while Sephiroth wanted to annhilate it and continue his mother's legacy. I will not limit myself to a simple good vs. evil dictonomy the world is more complex than that but I will say that they were both equal.
I say Sephiroth -- to control some one else's mind that is great will power and to play with someones memory and successfully create a plan to destroy the planet...THAT is great will and mind power.
...But Aerith does have facing sacrifice on her side...though to say thats will power is a lack for a better word in my opinion.
...But Aerith does have facing sacrifice on her side...though to say thats will power is a lack for a better word in my opinion.
Neo Bahamut
Blue Mage
Sephiroth, easily. If they were "equal," then he wouldn't be able to hold back Holy, her attempts to use the Lifestream, or her usage of Great Gospel in AC.
Also, Aerith is afraid of directly approaching Sephiroth in the Lifestream while Sephiroth has no such fear.
However, we have seen that a person's willpower can temporarily rise above Sephiroth's. Cloud did it back in the Northern Crater.
Also, Aerith is afraid of directly approaching Sephiroth in the Lifestream while Sephiroth has no such fear.
However, we have seen that a person's willpower can temporarily rise above Sephiroth's. Cloud did it back in the Northern Crater.
Sephiroth's will power is among the strongest. Not only he managed to preserve his memories after joining the lifestream, but he also managed to survive all the way 'till Northern Crater (curiously enough...the way his body was found reminds me of Broly....). We should also add that he manifested himself many times through the scattered remains of Jenova (as both beings aimed towards a common goal), and he also submitted Cloud to his will, making him hand over the Black Materia. We should also note that his will survived defeat after defeat only to return stronger each time, with his influence causing the Geostigma syndrome and single handedly slowly corrupting the lifestream.
Now that I think about it....Sephiroth should be the next protagonist of "Hard to Kill"
Now that I think about it....Sephiroth should be the next protagonist of "Hard to Kill"
Neo Bahamut
Blue Mage
It's more than just manifesting, in my opinion. The fact that Sephiroth can hold back all of Aerith's actions is pretty much undeniable proof that he's the stronger will.
0.o But, Aerith defeated him nonetheless, right? She did that with her will, so that has to mean something about her will-power.
Wow, good thread. Id say both are equal in their goals. Aeris dies to save the planet, Sephy wants to destory her for this. I cant say Sephy has a stronger will because he killed Aeris, he was determined. But I wouldnt say it made him stronger as Aeris summoned Meteor.
Aeris Summoned meteor? When? Seph summoned Meteor and Aeris/Aerith summoned Holy unless I missed something?
Like i said earlier because aeris died we did not see the true strength of her will, but it did manifest itself in the form of Cloud & Co's willingness to try and save the planet where as Sephiroth was able to go alot further towards his goal but was ultimatley stopped....in the vaguest sense.....by the Will of Aeris
Oh dear, I mentioned the wrong summon. Havent played the game in years.
Aeris may have died, but her will, as mentioned, was summoned into Cloud and the rest of the party. They could have given up, but no they were determined to see it through and that was Aeris's strenght and will pushing them on.
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HighwindPilot
White Mage
It's hard to say, since Aeris' will power is so strong that it apparently extended beyond life in her attempts to help them after
, while Sephiroth's will is most-likely what kept him alive to do everything he did after the nibelheim incident in the first place. I hate taking the objective role, but I'd have to plead equality of the two until evidence arises of one truly outdoing the other.
The whole "Sephiroth held back Holy" thing would be good, but we don't know if he was only capable of this because of
. After all, Holy
in the first place, doesn't it?
her passing
The whole "Sephiroth held back Holy" thing would be good, but we don't know if he was only capable of this because of
Aeris' death
inevitably saves them from Meteor
Yes, it did. And Aerith did that with her will. That says a lot about her will-power.