[ARTICLE] Xbox One vs PS4 (and which you should get)

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It's been a strange thing watching over the past few months as information on the Xbox One and Playstation 4 has come to light. In the past, console hardware was always vastly different between competitors who attempted to use creative setups to get the most possible power out of lowest-possible-cost components. It would seem those days are no more, as both Microsoft and Sony revealed that their next generation consoles will run on x86-64 hardware—the same technology as desktop computers—with strikingly similar specs besides. This is why a while back I ran a post predicting that the two consoles would cancel one another out and PC gaming might again take the lead. But since then we've had E3 and a slew of new information what with all the Xbox One debacles that cost two Microsoft employees their jobs. But as controversial as Microsoft's new console might be right now, it is far too early to count it out for the generation. With time, the initial Xbox One problems will likely become just a distant memory. So controversy aside, is one console better than the other, and if so, which should you preorder?

APU (CPU/GPU): Both the Xbox One and Playstation 4 feature an 8-core AMD 'Jaguar' APU (that's 'accelerated processing unit') which is basically a CPU-GPU combo, clocked at 1.6GHz. But don't get the wrong idea: your netbook with the same clock speed can't hold a candle to what these two consoles will be capable of. Multiprocessing is the name of the game these days rather than raw frequency, and next-gen consoles will be pretty good at making many calculations at once. And these are no run-of-the-mill AMD products, either—both are semi-custom designs, and that means there are a few differences between them. The Xbox One's GPU is a Radeon 'Durango' variety, while the PS4's GPU is a Radeon 'Liverpool' instead. It's a subtle difference in itself, but the associated specs are much more dramatic. For example, the PS4's GPU possesses 1152 shader cores which operate at 1.84 TFLOP/s (that's roughly 1,840,000,000,000 floating-point operations per second) versus the Xbox One's 'mere' 768 shader cores at 1.23TFLOP/s. Furthermore the PS4's GPU boasts a fillrate of 25.6 Gpixel/s and 57.6 GTexel/s ('fillrate' refers to how many pixels per second a GPU can fill) versus the Xbox One's 12.8 Gpixel/s and 38.4GTexel/s. Put in those terms it may appear that the Xbox One is roughly half as powerful as the PS4, but bear in mind that there are other factors besides just the GPU that come into play. The Xbox One is at a very real disadvantage when it comes to raw processing power, but not so much as the numbers might make it sound. PS4 games will undoubtedly look a bit prettier, but the difference won't be night and day.

RAM: Just like not all 'Jaguar' APUs are created equal, not all RAM is created equal, either. Both new consoles pack 8GB of RAM, but again the technology behind it is rather different. The PS4 runs on GDDR5 RAM clocked at 5.5GHz with a system bandwidth of 176.0 GB/s. GDDR5 RAM is good for handling graphics data, but not as hot on average system tasks. The Xbox One, on the other hand, uses DDR3 RAM—the same stuff in desktop and laptop computers—clocked at just 2.13 GHz with a system bandwidth of 68.3 GB/s. Furthermore, the PS4 will use a fairly lightweight system that occupies only 1GB, leaving 7GB available for games. The Xbox One's triple-OS system is more demanding, requiring 3GB and leaving just 5GB open for games. Considering RAM on an APU system acts as both system and video memory, this is quite a blow to gaming performance. To help alleviate this problem, Microsoft has included a 32MB eSRAM module with a system bandwidth of 102.0 GB/s to tackle some of those system processes and hopefully keep them from dragging down performance mid-game. This makes direct comparisons between the consoles difficult, but it is telling of the fact that Sony's focus is games and Microsoft's focus is ancillary media center features—not as much the games that made the Xbox popular in the first place.

Storage: As with so many other specs, hard drive storage between consoles appears to be on par at first. Both the PS4 and Xbox One will ship with 500GB of built-in hard drive storage for downloaded games, movies, music, and whathaveyou. The key difference here is that Playstation 4 owners will be able to swap out that hard drive as they please, and Xbox One users will be stuck with what's included. 500GB is a respectable amount of space, but considering games can easily occupy 15GB these days and HD movies come at roughly 4GB a pop, those first 500 gigs are not going to last most people through the generation. There's something to be said for the convenience of simply picking up a normal 1TB or 2TB HDD at a reasonable price and plugging it in to your Playstation. Xbox users on the other hand will need to invest in an external USB hard drive instead (note that this option is available for PS4 as well). It's better than nothing, but the point of going digital is eliminating physical media, so requiring external hard drives is somewhat counterproductive.

Exclusives: The power of exclusive games goes largely unappreciated in the minds of consumers these days, but is nonetheless a reality. In the past, exclusive games made choosing a console easy. There was always a 'killer app', a game or two so good that you knew right away you were getting whatever platform they were on. But these days it isn't so simple. It's easy enough for developers to port their games to a variety of platforms, and with development costs on high-profile games being what they are, it only makes sense to address the widest possible audience to get the best return on investment. But why is that audience divided in the first place? That's right: exclusivity still has a hold on the market, albeit a bit more subtle one than before.

Considering The Last of Us (a killer app by many accounts) only now released seven years into the PS3's life cycle, its tough to say what icons might arise for Sony in the PS4's future. But at least for now Microsoft wins in the exclusives arena. In my personal opinion Halo is getting a little gray on the noggin, but it maintains a very large and loyal fanbase regardless. Ever since the original Xbox, the green-suited Master Chief has been the symbol of Microsoft gaming, and while no specific Halo title has been announced for the Xbox One, Microsoft took time at E3 to assure everyone it is coming. On top of that, they've got Quantum Break, a new time-bending IP by Remedy Entertainment which is set to showcase the Xbox One's graphical prowess and extra features as well. The game will mix regular gameplay with live action scenes as well as a TV show that will somehow interact with gameplay and vice versa. Details have yet to be revealed on how it will all work exactly, but needless to say Quantum Break is an interesting endeavor that would alone be worth owning an Xbox One to experience. The problem is that such large projects are not sustainable—the average game development studio can't produce a TV show tie-in, nor can the result be properly experienced, say, ten years down the road.

On the other hand, Sony has a history of future-proof games but as of right now none of them stand out as truly representative of the PS4. Knack, The Order: 1886, inFamous: Second Son, and DriveClub all look like great games, but appeal to a variety of audiences. Then there's Killzone: Shadowfall, a fairly niche shooter that doesn't look set to be any kind of Halo-killer.

Don't get the wrong idea—the PS4 is not lacking great exclusives. But while Sony may have games that appeal to everyone, the downside is that they've made it difficult to advertise the console to anyone in particular. Xbox One games are iconic. They only appeal to a certain type of gamer, but that gamer is going to buy an Xbox One, controversy or not. Most of the Playstation's former best exclusives (e.g. Final Fantasy, Tomb Raider, even Kingdom Hearts) are now multiplatform. In many cases the Playstation is still the best place to experience them, and considering the hardware specs that trend is practically guaranteed to continue. But it is much harder this generation to pick one exclusive title that is the embodiment of all things Playstation. With Studio Liverpool closed down, we won't even get another WipEout.

Extras: The Xbox One gets its name from the fact that Microsoft wants to make it the one device you go to for all your home media needs. It's a game console, a media center, a DVR of sorts, a TV guide, a Windows 8 PC (to a limited extent), and yes, it will even order a pizza at your command. The PS4 will cover basically the same range of media center features as the PS3, so you'll have all of your video, photo, and music needs met, but not much else. In this respect, the Xbox One trumps the PS4. Or does it?

7th-gen consoles have apps, too. If you own a PS3, Xbox 360, or Wii, you have a device capable of downloading and using a variety of optional programs, third-party and otherwise. How much does the average consumer make use of these features? Beyond Netflix and Hulu, not much. When was the last time you used your console to show off your photos to friends or family in the room? What about for playing music? Checking the weather? The machines most of us have in our living rooms are capable of all this and more, yet we usually defer to smartphones, tablets, and other non-gaming electronics to handle these tasks. The average consumer uses a game console for...gaming. These days it's easy to bury yourself with media consuming devices, but the one thing most of them don't do well is play games. That's why game consoles exist.

As as was already mentioned, the Xbox One's ancillary features come with a significant cost in the area of game performance. If you intend to use those features on a regular basis, then the Xbox One is for you. Otherwise, you'll be spending an awful lot of money on things you'll never even use to get an inferior experience with the one thing you bought the console for. It depends on you.

Issues: Nothing in the world is perfect, including major products. The Xbox One is most well known for its DRM restricting games to an individual console and user account and furthermore checking with Microsoft servers every 24 hours to make sure the already-ridiculous restrictions hadn't been bypassed. That may be gone now thanks to tremendous pressure from gamers and a tremendous response to Sony's E3 conference, but Microsoft still hasn't recovered from the problems it brought to the table. Their reputation has been seriously injured, and in the process of trying to defend that reputation Microsoft's leadership only painted itself as foolish and conceited. And in a moment of childlike all-or-nothing frustration, Microsoft pulled certain sharing features that people actually liked along with the DRM. They might still be pouting in the corner, stroking said removed features affectionately while constantly turning to keep curious playmates from peering over their shoulder to get a look. And all the while, Kinect remains an always-on requirement, which leaves some appropriately concerned considering Microsoft's recent behavior. While I'd like to say that at least the games looked great at E3, it turns out that none of them were running on Xbox One development hardware. They weren't even running on Windows 8 and AMD hardware, which the Xbox One is based on. No folks, the Xbox One demos at E3 were all running on HP Windows 7 machines utilizing NVIDIA graphics cards. In the face of all the hubris displayed at the conference, the irony here is almost too much to handle. Toss a heavy pay wall for online access into the mix with the only rewards being old games that everyone already has and you've got plenty of reason to call it quits on the Xbox platform.

At least the Playstation has free Internet features...right? Well, it did. During the most fantastic Xbox slam in Playstation history Sony quietly warned that Playstation Plus will be required for online gaming, though services like Netflix and Hulu will not be affected. Smart to introduce that detail while everyone is laughing, right? But the problem still remains: multiplayer gaming requires a bank account. The difference from Xbox Live is that Playstation Plus costs less and rewards subscribers with more free games and discounts than anyone could ever take full advantage of, but the presence of a pay wall is still disappointing.

Conclusion: With the worst of Xbox One DRM removed, Xbox fanboys can feel fairly comfortable with purchasing their console brand of choice. Chances are Xbox gamers want Xbox exclusive games, which the PS4 doesn't offer terrific alternatives to. However if Halo isn't your thing and you want a console that will play games instead of TV shows, there's almost no reason to go for an Xbox over a PS4. There's a wider range of PS4 games which are sure to be classics, the hardware is significantly superior, and more of that horsepower is available to gaming thanks to Sony's focus on games as opposed to ancillary functionality. Like the Xbox One, the PS4 does come with a subscription requirement for multiplayer gaming, but the Playstation Plus service is slightly cheaper and vastly superior to Xbox Live and will practically pay for itself in free games and discounts.

Sony has demonstrated that they have their act together, they know what gamers want, and they're prepared to deliver on it. Microsoft's errors are not fatal and the Xbox One shouldn't be counted out for the generation just yet, but that being said it's probably best for gamers to hold off until it's clear Microsoft is back on its feet and making smart decisions rather than merely reacting to peer pressure. A message needs to be sent that strict DRM is not the future, it is intolerable. But competition must remain--universally boycotting the Xbox One entirely would hurt the gaming industry far worse than DRM ever could.

With all that in mind, the bottom line for consumers wondering which console to preorder is simple: Halo fan? Xbox One. Anything else? PS4. That is all.


Original post: http://www.thinkboxly.com/2013/07/xboxone-vs-ps4.html
 
I'm surprised there aren't comments on this. I was poking around in Rocket Town and I came across this expecting more comments and or heated discussions (haha) on Xbox One vs PS4. This article/thread is almost a year old but I'm surprised there aren't a lot of comments on the "console war". I'll just start off by saying my vote goes towards Playstation 4. Price, performance, hardware construction are a little better overall. Plus, I just love Japanese hardware as well as Sony.

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If I HAD to choose one (I own both), I'd probably go with the Xbox One. With Halo 5, Fable Legends, and Gears of War certainly in its future (and with Titanfall already out), I feel it has the edge on the PS4 in terms of games. Watchdogs, Destiny and Kingdom Hearts 3 (whenever that releases) are supported by both consoles. I can't think of a solid PS4 exclusive to mark my calendar for.
 
I own a good PC rig and PS3 but I haven't purchased either PS4 or Xbox One yet. I feel they both don't have enough games yet, but mostly I have games that I haven't even played yet on PS3, and I don't sell my consoles. If they break I get them fixed. Some people won't get games for PC so it's important to include the games that are coming and are already on PC and PS4 and won't be coming to Xbox One. FFXIV ARR and Outlast won't be coming to Xbox One. Planetside 2, Everquest Next, and Daylight won't be on Xbox One. Deepdown, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, and Shadow of the Beast are PS4 exclusives that are in development and The Order is coming. There are games that are exclusive to PS4 but Mister Poop?? (interesting name) and others are looking at AAA exclusive titles which I wouldn't be worried about. Those 3 exclusives don't even have release dates yet...I don't wish doom to Micro$ofts console though. Competition is good for the market and value of games. What's even more important than exclusives, is we don't even know if the games are good or not. Multi platform games will perform better on PS4 and or PC. Titanfall is on PC as well as 360 so it's not a system seller.
@Mystical_Gaming:

Money isn't the issue for me either but I always make smart purchases. Money wasn't an issue with the HD DVD and Blu-Ray format war, but I didn't purchase either until there was a clear victor in price, content, and design. The interest and worth of something affects what I put my money on.
Everyone wants the next best thing but I'm patient when it comes to entertainment electronics. The mark-up is high on consumer electronics. I didn't obtain decent wealth by spending a lot and on everything in sight so being frugal has just become a habit for me. I won't even buy a new PC component unless I think it's worth it.
 
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I'm probably going to end up getting both one day. It's never been about the money factor really for me but rather interest and worth I'd get out of them. I also like to wait a year or two so hardware gets improved, prices drop, and firmware updates arrive that fix a lot of the silly stuff. I can't believe both systems still don't ave the ability to have a custom background ... stuff like that should be there, so i wait until those features get added in and I don't feel like I am buying a half finished product. None of the games both consoles have really interest me. If I had to buy one right now I would probably go with Xbox One just for the sake of Titanfall and all my fiends who already have an xbox one. But PS4 seems to have some cool features (plus custom avatars) which I really like. Once PS4 gets a game or two I really want I'll get a PS4.

In the end I'm never going to get into those silly console wars. I love gaming and both systems offer good stuff. My custom built pc is the powerhouse where if I want to play a game in insane resolution and maxed graphics I will go to. As far as consoles are concerned thats really where I'll get my FPS fixed and games that are exclusive to them and not on pc.
 
Honestly, I think their unveiling earned the Xbox One a bad enough reputation. I haven't even considered purchasing one and always wondered why I even had an xbox 360 when halo was the only game xbox had that i couldn't play on ps3.

i only know a few people with a ps4 console and none with an xbox one :wacky:

but thanks for the informative post :monster:
 
I currently own a PS4 but that was mainly because it was the cheaper system to go here in the UK. I mean I will eventually get an Xbox One mainly because I love Halo so I will get it at some point and also get all the other games I may want when they are a lot cheaper. I mean for me it was mainly based on a multiplayer/social standpoint. Which system are we all getting to play those mp games? that was the decider for it to be honest. I haven't played my PS4 much really but I don't regret that decision I mean I just got one sooner rather than later.
 
If I get one of the two it will be a PS4, but I expect I will do much the same thing as I did with the PS3, which is to wait a few years, get the slim version of the console (or whatever Sony will do--can't see how the PS4 can get much slimmer) and already have a list of games I want to try rather than anticipate that list forming over the console's lifespan. For this year and the coming few what I've done is spec'd out my PC to handle next-gen like nobody's business. The cost for me was exactly the same as buying a new console but in the meantime I get far more use out of the parts and I don't have an extra box laying around. I really, really hate having more electronic things than I can use. I want the old ones to break or have some continued use, otherwise I feel rather ashamed for living in a country with so much excess :P Maybe that sound silly, but it's how I am.

As it is, my PS3 still has a lot of life left in it, and every next gen game I'm interested in so far is coming to PC (or PS3, for that matter). Final Fantasy XV will be a different story, but I'm content to wait and see how that one does with reviewers, as it is a huge departure from what we're used to. It could end up being really awesome and warrant buying a PS4, or it could end up being meh. At this point it's very hard to tell.

At any rate, it's unlikely I will ever have good enough reason to by an Xbox One to push me over the edge. My main gaming interest these days is in the Japanese side, and naturally the Japan-made console will have more titles that are my style. Besides that I just like Sony's style in general. The controller (yes, I even like the Dualshock 3 better than the Xbox 360 controller), the interface, the fact that the PS4 doesn't resemble a VCR and the power brick doesn't resemble an actual br--oh right, there isn't one. Also would much rather get PS+ than Xbox Live. I'd say Microsoft has done good damage control and honestly the name 'Xbox One' doesn't leave a bad taste in my mouth anymore like it did after last E3, but it still is just not a compelling console to me.
 
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I totally agree with you there on the whole blu-ray deal. I literally just bought my first blu-ray player for my pc 3 months ago and have been slowly buying my favorite movies and shows in blu-ray since the cost is very very cheap now. I've never been one to rush into things since I am very content with what I have and thankfully my hobby is pretty cheap so I'm not needing to spend gobs of money on stuff. For example I still play games like Halo 3 on my xbox 360 that came out 7+ years ago and couldn't be happier. Once Xbox One and PS4 get some more games and this fall season they ahve a price drop or really add some good firmware I might see if it's worth it. I think PS4 is finally about to get HDMI support for capture cards so yeah, stuff like that is what I wait for.
 
After the whole E3 crap with Xbox One I would never ever consider getting one. I don't care that they turned it all around, the fact is at any time they can literally turn those all on with one little update. Now logically they wont, but with Microsoft as far as Xbox is concerned, had very few exclusive games I really liked anyways, and besides that anything I like that was "exclusive" to xbox is on PC anyways :wacky:



That says it best as far as currently how the generation war is going :wacky:

I don't need 100% online access, I don't need everything connected to some social media, I don't want an update every fricken week, I just want to play games... is that too hard to understand Microsoft Xbox and Sony Playstation? I WANT TO PLAY GAMES!!!! seriously, Nintendo does it right...sorta... well..minus trying to make gaming into some... I don't know what to call the Wii/Wii-u :mokken:
 
I don't need 100% online access, I don't need everything connected to some social media, I don't want an update every fricken week, I just want to play games... is that too hard to understand Microsoft Xbox and Sony Playstation? I WANT TO PLAY GAMES!!!! seriously, Nintendo does it right...sorta... well..minus trying to make gaming into some... I don't know what to call the Wii/Wii-u :mokken:

I agree here. We don't need social crap. We have PCs for that. We don't need Netflix/other TV services. We have PCs/smart TVs for that. It's all just packaging to make it seem like the later gens of consoles are more advanced (when they really aren't in those senses).

I also agree that Nintendo does it right in terms of not going toooo social. Online gaming is fun yes, but nothing else. A browser perhaps is convenient for checking a walkthrough or something? Meh.

Consoles are for gaming. Take the money out of the socialising aspects and either sell the console cheaper or actually focus more money into the gameplay.
 
Nintendon't lol
I agree though Bender, Nintendo does it right....sorta.
I call Nintendo consoles Zelda boxes but that's just my nickname for it. They have other good games and I'm just joking with the Zelda box, but yeah Nintendo just has some good first party games but that's it. They did have Last Story though.

Don Mattrick had it coming to him.

PC is the king. It would be nice to just have all games come to the PC.

My brother owned Xbox (the first one) and has a 360. The only games I played that I really enjoyed were Morrowind and KOTOR I and II but I started getting into PC gaming shortly after the first Xbox.


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I don't mind so much the option for social media stuff, like netflix and that stuff, but when that is what the big consoles are about, like that is how they advertise the thing "Xbox TV" "Netflix" "facebook connection" That is when I go "why would I buy a console if I have all that crap right now :wacky: "

I'm not getting into the PC vs Console war, cause it doesn't matter enough for me to get involved in that...

But on a side not also, I did kinda understand what Xbox One was originally doing. By trying to make things more digital, they just did it very stupidly. I mean look at the Music industry, how many people just go and buy stuff off itunes and put it on their Ipod? The same thing with PC gaming. Steam, how many people just buy games off that?

The thing is they didn't say "you can't buy it anyway else" which is what Xbox One failed at. They basically said "yeah you can only have one copy, have fun" When I can download a music Cd as many times as I want to as many devices as I want.

Sony and Microsoft should take book from Steam's account when it comes to digital gaming. "Hey don't need to pay for anything, and we still give you great deals on old games" I mean I looked at some prices on both Xbox live and PSN and some games are STILL $60 when I can buy them at a store for $40 or even less new....
 
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