Final Fantasy 13 ( 13-2 ) and Final Fantasy 7 similarities? ( SPOILERS)

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First off, I'm not sure where I am supposed to post this, if I posted it in a wrong sub-forum let me know.

Okay, back on topic.
I noticed a lot of similarities between FF13 and FF7. First, Lightning and Cloud being obviously ( and officially ) related, on looks and personality. Then, The similarities between Sazh and Barret ( on looks and the fact that they go on the journey to save their child ). The whole Sanctum force, similar to Shin-RA, and PSICOM, similar to SOLDIER. The "save the world" plot ( which is existent in every FF game though ). And Nautilus and Gold Saucer similarities.

And in 13-2 a major female character dies, the male protagonist mourning her death. ( similar to Aeris' death )

That's all I can think about now. But there are more, I just don't remember them all.


Discuss!
 
You should have posted this in the Final Fantasy XIII section due to the fact you are mainly discussing FFXIII's similarities with another FF.

I do understand these similarities you have mentioned above, I believe that took elements from previous games and made them work in a different world. Thing is a lot of things like a female lead dying isn't uncommon in other RPG's. It just so happens this game has more connections with an existing FF rather than it's own originality.
 
You should have posted this in the Final Fantasy XIII section due to the fact you are mainly discussing FFXIII's similarities with another FF.


I do understand these similarities you have mentioned above, I believe that took elements from previous games and made them work in a different world. Thing is a lot of things like a female lead dying isn't uncommon in other RPG's. It just so happens this game has more connections with an existing FF rather than it's own originality.
Thanks for telling me where I should post it, it confused me. I understand what you said there, that must be it. I think I noticed these things because I played FF7 immediately after FF13 and FF13-2, actually these two being the only FF I actually played ( I'm kinda new )
 
I honestly don't see anything that they have in common. Final Fantasy XIII-2 more so gave me Chrono Trigger feelings at the beginning because of the time travel aspect and the long loading times that include you watching a long black hole picture while it loads.

Though XIII-2 is more about a sister finding her older sister throughout the depths of time and FF VII is more about a mentally scared young adult trying to deal with his emotionally scaring past and dealing with the person who caused that scaring Sephiroth.


They both have crappy endings though. :grin:
 
Barret and Sahz look similar?
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Barret looks like Mr. T.

But I can kinda see what you're getting at, OP. Especially Lighting/Cloud, The Sanctum/Shin-Ra, PSICOM/Solider, etc. But I think they used elements from various different FF's. Like some from FFX: Sphere Grid/Crystalarium (sp?), X-2 International + Last Mission's ability to get new party members/FFXIII-2's monster party members, etc. Can't think of any others.
 
Barret looks like Mr. T.

But I can kinda see what you're getting at, OP. Especially Lighting/Cloud, The Sanctum/Shin-Ra, PSICOM/Solider, etc. But I think they used elements from various different FF's. Like some from FFX: Sphere Grid/Crystalarium (sp?), X-2 International + Last Mission's ability to get new party members/FFXIII-2's monster party members, etc. Can't think of any others.
Yes, I found the game's setting to be the most similar with FF7 ( in a world where the polictical force is corrupt, etc. )
 
I never played FFXIII, but since you never played other titles than FF7 and FF13 you dont realise these similarities are pretty much amongst all ff games.
Almost every title has an opposing "corrupt" military or groups of ppl and rebels/revolutionaries that stands up against them.

But perhaps you are right FF7 is closest to FFXIII.
However are the similarities between protagonists and antagonists the same between FF7 and FF13? Besides looks that is. I heard the antagonists from FFXIII had no substantial role while Sephiroth is a legend.

Sazh about time a black dude is introduced again and playable, but you cant compare him to Barret just because they're both black. She is not Barret's real daughter btw. Sazh has a son not a daughter so thats another point I guess.


PPL want to see what they want to see, but in this case I think SE did it intentionally and you are right there are similarities. I just think they have overdone it in FFXIII. Seems to me SE is running out of juice.
 
Minus a few things I really don't see how they are so much alike, minus a rebel group going against a military world... Lightning is nothing like Cloud, The only thing they have in common is that they were ex-soldiers, they don't have the same personalities or anything like that.

Sahz and Barret...don't make me laugh, these two are so far apart it isn't even funny.
 
Actually.... i agree. a father figure who uses guns (granted sazh doesnt have a machine for a hand) and happens to be black.

Cloud and lightning situation has been said before. But personally lightning tries too hard for someone who lost her parents. Shes far too stereotypical.
 
Actually.... i agree. a father figure who uses guns (granted sazh doesnt have a machine for a hand) and happens to be black.

Come to think of it, Laguna was a father figure who used a gun as well...and he actually did use a machine gun lol Maybe they liked giving guns to dads?
 
So really minus very few things I don't see how these games are anything a like, and the things you picked out, really we can find similarities with most of the FF games. I think some people just saw Lightning on the train and tried to find everything a like between XIII and VII.
 
So really minus very few things I don't see how these games are anything a like, and the things you picked out, really we can find similarities with most of the FF games. I think some people just saw Lightning on the train and tried to find everything a like between XIII and VII.

Her design is meant to be a female cold. She lost her parents. But to me she tries too hard to be strong.
 
Mmm, 7 and 13 were compared a lot when 13 was released. Mainly by haters who didn't like the game...and usually hadn't even played it.
I think 13 shows that copying another FF in the series too much will ruin the game rather than enhance it :/
 
Bear in mind that FF1, 3 and 5 also had very similar themes:

FFI: Band of 4 light warriors save the world from darkness.
FFIII. Group of kids become light warriors save the world from darkness.
FFV: Four random people are selected to be the warriors of light and save the world from darkness.

In fact I consider FFIII to be an improved retake of sorts on FFI. So it's not as if thematic and plot similarities haven't appeared in the FF series before. Let's look at VI and VII:

VI: Band of intrepid heroes must band together and save the world from a power-crazed genetically modified clown who wants to become a god. The fate of the world rests on a half-human, half-Esper woman. Final boss is an angelic-looking being with the power to destroy the world.
VII. Band of intrepid heroes must band together and save the world from a power-crazed genetically modified ex-military supersoldier who wants to become a god. The fate of the world rests on the last female survivor of an ancient race. Final boss is an angelic looking being with the power to destroy the world (not to mention they even have attacks with the same names).

So yeah there's my two cents.
 
Her design is meant to be a female cold. She lost her parents.

Yeah but a lot of people had lost there parents in FF games, Aerith, Cecil, Terra, The whole FF II cast, Rydia, Bartz, Most of the FF VIII group, Garnet, Tidus, Yuna... etc etc.

Like I said... ok Cloud and Lightning have things in common, but everything else in the game that you can find similarities to, usually has these things in other FF games.
 
Yeah but a lot of people had lost there parents in FF games, Aerith, Cecil, Terra, The whole FF II cast, Rydia, Bartz, Most of the FF VIII group, Garnet, Tidus, Yuna... etc etc.

Like I said... ok Cloud and Lightning have things in common, but everything else in the game that you can find similarities to, usually has these things in other FF games.

However lightning and clouds are more specific. No need getting mad or upset for stating the truth. Tbh a stereotypical feminist really doesnt appeal to me at all.

Problem is it was intentional. No one isnt going to compare two similar yet unrelated. Why do you think ppl mention gackt all the time?
 
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That's a striking resemblance, if I do say so myself.
 
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