Happy New Year FFF!

[Miko]

I'm a little late, but~ Happy New Year FFF!


Last year we made a thread that a few of you filled out over here! So I thought I'd include some survey questions for you all to answer again to see if anything has changed and how your year of 2021 went! Once again, no obligation to fill any or all of these out, if you'd rather make a quick summary, statement or would just rather just say happy new years that's fine too!

Spoiler: Survey Questions

This Past Year
Pick three words to describe this past year:
What is something you’re proud of that you accomplished:
What was one of the better things that happened:
What was the single most challenging thing that happened:
What was your biggest personal change from January to December:
What was the best way you used your time:
What would you do over if you could:
Which game did you put the most hours into:
The most fun you had:
Your biggest regret:
Something you wish you hadn’t bought:
The nicest thing someone did for you:
A new food/dish you tried:
How did you celebrate your birthday:
What’s some of the things you got for Christmas:
How are you feeling at this moment:
What are you worried about:
Where/did you travel this year:
Are you happy with your life right now:

The Last Thing(s) You Did / Before the New Year
Who was the last person you saw:
Who is the last person who texted you:
Who was the last person you texted:
Who was the last person you hung out with:
Who was the last person to call you:
Who did you last hug:
Who was the last person you said "I love you" to:
What did you last cry over:
Where did you last go:
What was the last game you played:

The New Year
What are you looking forward to most in 2022:
What do you hope to improve about yourself in the next year to come:
What do you hope to do more of in 2022:
Other than time & money, what do you want more of in the New Year:
What game(s) are you looking forward to:

What Were Your Favorites of/During 2021
Game:
Movie:
TV Show:
Book:
Song:
Dish/Food:
Place to eat:
Holiday:

FFF
What was your favorite thread:
What was your favorite Birthweek event:
What was your favorite seasonal event:
Which event do you hope to see/look forward to next year:
What is your favorite Cegling:
Favorite FFF-specific Meme(s):
Which item do you hope to buy in the Mogshop next year:
Which forum were you most active in? (Find this in your stats on the forum list page)
How many posts/messages do you currently have:
How much Gil/MP do you currently have?

Feel free to sprinkle in any extras if you like, too!


I wish you all the same a happy new year & hope you all do your best for the many more years to come!

 

[Its Over]

Happy new year. Better late than never.

 

[Paddy McGee]

I shall take you up on this recap! This was more fun than all the others from different apps! Did you know I had 33 revolut transactions with Tesco? I know, wow.

Spoiler

This Past Year​

Pick three words to describe this past year: banal; rote; refreshing
What is something you’re proud of that you accomplished: I paid off a large loan about 3 years early
What was one of the better things that happened: I met some interesting people and realised what I do and do not like in people
What was the single most challenging thing that happened: A string of rejections both personal and professional
What was your biggest personal change from January to December: I moved apartments, improved saving habits and otherwise matured in many ways
What was the best way you used your time: Tutoring friends on some subjects to help them transition careers
What would you do over if you could: Take a specific situation and not speak while heated.
Which game did you put the most hours into: FF XIV by a wide margin
The most fun you had: Probably the first pints meetup I had with my friends since the Pandemic hit.
Your biggest regret: Hurting a couple people because I didn't put the effort in to phrase my words properly; it's a lesson I'll take going forward.
Something you wish you hadn’t bought: Some furniture that I couldn't get through my apartment door that's still waiting on me.
The nicest thing someone did for you: My friend helped me move without prompting at all; I was feckered without them too
A new food/dish you tried: I've tried many more dishes from the Japanese restaurants here. Not a fan of sushi but the rest? top class.
How did you celebrate your birthday: I wanted to spend it alone but I got pulled down to my family home
What’s some of the things you got for Christmas: Pots, pans, socks, 3 bottles of whiskey, rum, cointreau, vodka and a nifty Spider-Man t-shirt!
How are you feeling at this moment: tired and hopeful
What are you worried about: whether Ed Sheeran's terrible Raglan Road cover will ruin relations between Britain and the Republic of Ireland
Where/did you travel this year: No where; I stayed home. I'm thinking 2022 will have more travel
Are you happy with your life right now: Relatively. There are some changes I'd like to make and focus on in 2022

The Last Thing(s) You Did / Before the New Year​

Who was the last person you saw: My mum, whom I dropped into to countdown with before returning to a party with friends
Who is the last person who texted you: a friend to whom I mentioned the Ed Sheeran Raglan road cover
Who was the last person you texted: the same person as above
Who was the last person you hung out with: a friend I've had since I was a kid
Who was the last person to call you: one of my sister's; she needed help with NYD dinner
Who did you last hug: My mom, after the countdown.
Who was the last person you said "I love you" to: an on/off relationship... person a couple of weeks back. Yeah...
What did you last cry over: spilled milk
Where did you last go: a friend's house back in the neighbourhood i grew up
What was the last game you played: Red Dead Redemption 2 on the 30th December

The New Year​

What are you looking forward to most in 2022: moving back into a more open world
What do you hope to improve about yourself in the next year to come: undoing some of the anger and resentment I'm holding onto. You know how it is, lads
What do you hope to do more of in 2022: travel
Other than time & money, what do you want more of in the New Year: laughs
What game(s) are you looking forward to: GT7, bay-beeeeeeeeeeeee!

What Were Your Favorites of/During 2021​

Game: In general, FFXIV. I haven't finished EW but just the memories and fun had.
Movie: Spider-Man: No Way Home. What Harry Potter is to some people out there, Spider-Man is to me.
TV Show: Clarkson's Farm was genuinely good television, even if Clarkson's a grumpy aul prick
Book: I re-read a Roddy Doyle book called "Paula Spencer", which is about a 40-something recovering alchoholic mother of 4. It was so very out of left field that it left a mark
Song: Beggin' cover, by Maneskin
Dish/Food: MASHED POTATOES AND GRAVY
Place to eat: Boojum, a burrito place in Dublin
Holiday: Christmas; my brother came home.

FFF​

What was your favorite thread: Unexpected uses of Final Fantasy Music
What was your favorite Birthweek event: the writing event
What was your favorite seasonal event: White Elephant/Shoopuf
Which event do you hope to see/look forward to next year: survivor, one day
What is your favorite Cegling: the one which is small
Favorite FFF-specific Meme(s): Snapple toes
Which item do you hope to buy in the Mogshop next year: dunno
Which forum were you most active in? (Find this in your stats on the forum list page) Mognet central?
How many posts/messages do you currently have: 1464 posts
How much Gil/MP do you currently have? 697;11

 

[Miko]

Happy New Year! 2021 was okay, but the tail-end was very hard. Hope everyone has a great 2022!

Spoiler: Survey Questions

This Past Year
Pick three words to describe this past year: Refreshing; Relieving, Different
What is something you’re proud of that you accomplished: I've been selling stuff online just for extra padding money that's come in hand when we needed it.
What was one of the better things that happened: My son got accepted into the school I was hoping he'd get into via a lottery they ran. Very thankful for that!
What was the single most challenging thing that happened: Online learning. I knew it would be a challenge with a 4 year old, but still rough.
What was your biggest personal change from January to December: My son went to school for the first time ever this year and I've had a lot of time to myself. Things are different, but in a good way for all of us.
What would you do over if you could: Easily Christmas. My family got Covid & it caused a bunch of chaos & stress during that time. I'd love to be able to prevent the contact from the start & avoid the mess. Thankfully we are all well & didn't have it bad, but Christmas was a little less Christmasy for me this last year.
Which game did you put the most hours into: Probably Animal Crossing, but that's not really saying much either. Just one of those games I'd play just till I got tired enough to fall asleep for the night.
The most fun you had: Thrifting with both my mom & my sister in law.
Your biggest regret: The Christmas thing above.
Something you wish you hadn’t bought: *Laughs in unused stationery*
The nicest thing someone did for you: I'm always humbled when anyone goes out of their way to do something nice for me, even when it's something little. I've got a great set of family & friends.
A new food/dish you tried: I also tried a lot of different Japanese dishes this year, including a lot of different sushi. I'm way more open to sushi and trying new things, and also have an idea of what I definitely do not like!
How did you celebrate your birthday: Is it weird that I don't really remember?
What’s some of the things you got for Christmas: Sick.
How are you feeling at this moment: I'm just okay at the moment.
What are you worried about: My grandma. She fell off a stool on Christmas Eve & broke a rib & fractured 3 others.
Where/did you travel this year: Traveled a few places this year, but more notably for a wedding up north out of state. It was actually really nice to get away, if only for the weekend.
Are you happy with your life right now: Yes!

The Last Thing(s) You Did / Before the New Year
Who was the last person you saw: My husband
Who is the last person who texted you: A random number that keeps sending me pictures of their grandkids.
Who was the last person you texted: The sibling group chat
Who was the last person you hung out with: My husband & kid
Who was the last person to call you: My mom
Who did you last hug: My kiddo
Who was the last person you said "I love you" to: My husband and/or kid
What did you last cry over: Man, I sobbed like a baby when my son had his first day of school. Just full on ugly crying on & off all day.
Where did you last go: The store for grocery pickup
What was the last game you played: Untitled Goose

The New Year
What are you looking forward to most in 2022: My husband starts his new day-shift job after working graveyard for nearly 4 years. It'll change things quite a bit for us & I'm looking forward to it.
What do you hope to improve about yourself in the next year to come: I've been dealing with a lot of self-negativity & occasional depression this year, so I really hope I can work on that. I also feel like I talk an awful lot about myself when I try and relate to topics at hand and it doesn't necessarily come across that way, so I hope I can work on that too.
What do you hope to do more of in 2022: More work around & on the house.
Other than time & money, what do you want more of in the New Year: Hopefully to just be able to get together more with my family.

What Were Your Favorites of/During 2021
Game: Untitled Goose. I played it again with my son this Christmas and the amount of times we laughed was everything.
Movie: I'm not really sure, I don't watch many movies.
TV Show: Locke & Key
Book: Probably Kira's notebook
Song: 'The Seed' by AURORA
Dish/Food: Sushi
Place to eat: The rotary sushi bar just outside of town
Holiday: Christmas, despite the above.

FFF
What was your favorite thread: The Discord Quotes Thread
What was your favorite Birthweek event: Either the Recipe contest or the Summertime Sappiness Writing event!
What was your favorite seasonal event: Probably also this year's Christmas Recipe & Writing events
Which event do you hope to see/look forward to next year: Not sure if we'll see it in 2022, but would like to experience a Moogle Murder Mystery event in the future!
What is your favorite Cegling: Still Gizmodeer!
Favorite FFF-specific Meme(s): Pinglethingy!
Which item do you hope to buy in the Mogshop next year: I will be broke next year I'm afraid!
Which forum were you most active in?: Halloween Archive still
How many posts/messages do you currently have: 1,373
How much Gil/MP do you currently have?: 1720; 5MP

 

[Six]

What a long list! Okay, I'll do it. (HAPPY NEW YEARS!)

Spoiler: ♪♫♪♫

This Past Year
Pick three words to describe this past year: Emotional, reflective, challenging.
What is something you’re proud of that you accomplished: Does getting through the year count? No? Saving, even though I bought quite a few things.
What was one of the better things that happened: The stack of backup notebooks in the cabinet.
What was the single most challenging thing that happened: Oh boy... I have to pick one? My mom breaking her arm.
What was your biggest personal change from January to December: Insight.
What was the best way you used your time: Spending it more intentionally.
What would you do over if you could: Nothing, I wouldn't be where I am, with the mindset I have now if things didn't happen the way they did. As sad as it is.
Which game did you put the most hours into: Final Fantasy XIV.
The most fun you had: Spending time with loved ones either IRL or via voice.
Your biggest regret: Stressing so dang much. See you again at the end of this year, biggest regret.
Something you wish you hadn’t bought: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
The nicest thing someone did for you: Certain people lending an ear when I needed it most.
A new food/dish you tried: Veggie Lentil soup. ♥
How did you celebrate your birthday: I... what? Oh, last year, right... I didn't. Not huge on celebrating birthdays.
What’s some of the things you got for Christmas: Nothing!
How are you feeling at this moment: Overwhelmed.
What are you worried about: What am I not worried about?
Where/did you travel this year: Nowhere.
Are you happy with your life right now: I can't complain, I mean I can, but you know.

The Last Thing(s) You Did / Before the New Year
Who was the last person you saw: My mom.
Who is the last person who texted you: Ser Thomas about his DC on XIV and I ended up having to solo heal P3. Fun times.
Who was the last person you texted: ^
Who was the last person you hung out with: ^
Who was the last person to call you: My aunt.
Who did you last hug: ....I don't remember. My mom?
Who was the last person you said "I love you" to: Indy, but he's a cat, so... Don't discriminate.
What did you last cry over: Being overwhelmed.
Where did you last go: My cousin's house if the store doesn't count.
What was the last game you played: FFXIV.

The New Year
What are you looking forward to most in 2022: Stability.
What do you hope to improve about yourself in the next year to come: Everything!
What do you hope to do more of in 2022: Visit loved ones, enjoy myself more than I stress myself out.
Other than time & money, what do you want more of in the New Year: Inner peace.
What game(s) are you looking forward to: None, really?

What Were Your Favourites of/During 2021
Game: Probably FFXIV, though I also really enjoyed Little Nightmares.
Movie:
TV Show: Seal Team & The Good Doctor.
{Note)Book: All of them. Yes.
Song: Dionne by the Japanese House.
Dish/Food: Soup. Any soup.
Place to eat: Home.
Holiday: Uh... Christmas, maybe.

FFF
What was your favourite thread: What are you currently listening to?
What was your favourite Birthweek event:
What was your favourite seasonal event:
Which event do you hope to see/look forward to next year:
What is your favourite Cegling:
Favorite FFF-specific Meme(s): Pinglethingy.
Which item do you hope to buy in the Mogshop next year: I provide them!
Which forum were you most active in? (Find this in your stats on the forum list page): Live in Colour
How many posts/messages do you currently have: 11,427
How much Gil/MP do you currently have? 1170 Gil & 8 MP

 

[Ilyena]

I filled this out earlier this week and forgot to post it.

Spoiler

This Past Year


Pick three words to describe this past year: Short, Stressful, Weird


What is something you’re proud of that you accomplished: I finished 3 games, which is quite impressive for me.


What was one of the better things that happened: I had a pleasant visit with family back home.


What was the single most challenging thing that happened: An ongoing issue at work that lasted a few months.


What was your biggest personal change from January to December: I became a morning person and managed to get a lot of writing done.


What was the best way you used your time: Writing

What would you do over if you could: I’d try to get more exercise.


Which game did you put the most hours into: Bravely Default 2


The most fun you had: We took the kiddos to a waterpark.


Your biggest regret: Not taking that left turn at Albuquerque


Something you wish you hadn’t bought: So many pairs of shoes


The nicest thing someone did for you: My husband left me a sweet note on my board in my office


A new food/dish you tried: Nothing


How did you celebrate your birthday: With a crown and a cake (yes, I’m that extra)


What’s some of the things you got for Christmas: Apple Watch, jewelry, games, dragon statue


How are you feeling at this moment: Refreshed. I just returned to work after a two weeks vacation.


What are you worried about: What am I not worried about is the real question?


Where/did you travel this year: North Carolina


Are you happy with your life right now: Yes



The Last Thing(s) You Did / Before the New Year


Who was the last person you saw: My husband


Who is the last person who texted you: My best friend


Who was the last person you texted: My mother-in-law


Who was the last person you hung out with: My husband


Who was the last person to call you: My mother


Who did you last hug: My husband


Who was the last person you said "I love you" to: My kids


What did you last cry over: My daughter’s ballet recital


Where did you last go: Bowling


What was the last game you played: Animal Crossing: New Horizons



The New Year


What are you looking forward to most in 2022: This pandemic going away, with any luck


What do you hope to improve about yourself in the next year to come: I’m learning piano


What do you hope to do more of in 2022: reading


Other than time & money, what do you want more of in the New Year: Outings


What game(s) are you looking forward to: Chocobo GP (or whatever that racing game is called), Elder Scrolls VI (hahaha, as if that’s happening any time soon)



What Were Your Favorites of/During 2021


Game: Bravely Default 2


Movie: I didn’t see any new movies this year


TV Show: Homicide Hunter (not necessarily new but I binged it this year)


Book: Scarlet Odyssey


Song: According to Amazon Music, my most played song was Thunder by Imagine Dragons (I blame my kids for that one)


Dish/Food: Grilled Salmon


Place to eat: Chipotle


Holiday: Christmas



FFF


What was your favorite thread: Screw this stupid game!!


What was your favorite Birthweek event: Stellazzio Coin Hunt


What was your favorite seasonal event: Christmas Jokes


Which event do you hope to see/look forward to next year: Moogle Murder Mystery 3


What is your favorite Cegling: Gizmodeer


Favorite FFF-specific Meme(s): FFF Among Us


Which item do you hope to buy in the Mogshop next year: Mortimer the Malboro


Which forum were you most active in? (Find this in your stats on the forum list page) Staff Threads (archive)


How many posts/messages do you currently have: 4134


How much Gil/MP do you currently have? 414 Gil/7MP

 

[Dionysos]

Bit late, but within the first month is still within the beginning of a ‘new year’. I made a promise to fill the out, and I kept opening this and attempting to fill it out but hit many blocks. These things always look better when filled out by other people, I find.
To be able to progress sometime before 2023 I had to skip a few questions, but I filled out 95% of it.

Spoiler: Answers

This Past Year

Spoiler: Answers

Pick three words to describe this past year:

Spoiler: Answers

Uncertainty, reflection, frustration.
What was one of the better things that happened: FFVII Remake concert. KupoCon pop-up (not a convention, just a pop-in place and then a below capacity evening event). Genesis concert. All requiring vaccinations and/or proof of negative tests, etc. And all pretty much happened right after another.
What was the single most challenging thing that happened: Possibly my own mental well-being this year more than any particular moment. I did not adjust very well to the pandemic and despite things being much more open now than they were the year before, the effect on my life and my future plans has been profound.
What was the best way you used your time: I’ve begun a project I can’t really talk about at the moment.
What would you do over if you could: The first four or five months were a complete washout, but then again we were in another lockdown at the beginning of the year. Maybe I shouldn’t be too hard on myself for that.
Which game did you put the most hours into: Final Fantasy XIV. Not an insane amount of hours compared to many people, but enough hours to continue to play the story and side quests. I don’t tend to repeat dungeons or trials or anything unless I really need to.
The most fun you had: Weekend in London for KupoCon pop-up and the FFVII Remake concert, followed by a Genesis concert and then soon after by my cousin’s wedding. If this sounds familiar, because I’ve already mentioned it, it is because it is quite literally the sum of what I was able to do last year in terms of ‘doing things’ out there in the world in Covid-land, besides work and fetching things that is.
Your biggest regret: I wish I had been more productive earlier on in the year, but my frame of mind was shot to hell.
Something you wish you hadn’t bought: I don’t really buy much unless I really want/need it, so I really don’t know about this.
The nicest thing someone did for you: Contacted me / included me.
How did you celebrate your birthday: It was a lockdown birthday, but I ate Greek food and drank mythos and ouzo.
How are you feeling at this moment: I’m not at my best but I’m at a stage where I’m noticing it and figuring out how to pull myself out of it.
What are you worried about: Many things.
Where/did you travel this year: Nowhere during lockdown, obviously, but in the summer I managed to visit Norfolk and then I went up North to attend my cousin’s (four times postponed) wedding. I also went to London for a ‘pop-up’ KupoCon event. At about the same time I attended the FFVII Remake concert, and then a few days later a Genesis concert. Everything which had been postponed due to the pandemic started to happen at once, basically. Essentially all of that is repeated information, due to the nature of the year ‘2021’ for many people, I guess.
Are you happy with your life right now: I’m happy with the concept of life and the wonderful things that exist on our planet, but I am not happy with the place I am at or where I fit in the world. If that makes sense.

The Last Thing(s) You Did / Before the New Year
Who was the last person you saw: Family. I spent New Year’s eve at my sister’s place.
Who is the last person who texted you: Former colleagues.
Who was the last person you texted: Former colleagues.
Who was the last person you hung out with: See above.
Who was the last person to call you: Cannot remember. Doesn’t happen often. I rang first the last time I was on the phone.
Who did you last hug: Not so sure I have in a long while?
Who was the last person you said "I love you" to: My Desktop Triceratops (only joking, I honestly don’t know). I’ll say it to you, the reader. Because I doubt anyone will read this, but I love you for doing it if you do.
What did you last cry over: Spilt milk.
Where did you last go: See above.
What was the last game you played: FFXIV: Endwalker. I was about a third of the way through it before the New Year.

The New Year
What are you looking forward to most in 2022: Figuring stuff out. Not the act of figuring stuff out, because that is HELL. I mean the end result of having answers in front of me that I can then act on.
What do you hope to improve about yourself in the next year to come: I really need to work on my self-marketing as I suck at it. I hate it with a passion and it goes against every fibre of my being, but it is the way the world works, I guess.
What do you hope to do more of in 2022: Living. Not just ‘existing’. I need to sort the way my brain is wired a bit first I think.
Other than time & money, what do you want more of in the New Year: Sense of calm. My mind becoming more ‘present’ and silencing (or taming) the constant cacophonous chatter of thoughts dancing aimlessly within my brain.
What game(s) are you looking forward to: Final Fantasy Origins: Stranger of Paradise, Forsaken, God of War: Ragnarok. FFXVI too, if it is to come out this year.

What Were Your Favorites of/During 2021
Game: FFXIV: Endwalker, although I did not complete it before the end of 2021 and I only encountered some of the deeper themes which I love the most after we’d already passed into 2022.
Guardians of the Galaxy deserves an honourable mention. That game is quite unexpectedly fantastic.

Movie: Until a few weeks ago, I hadn’t actually been to the cinema since the pandemic began. As a result, I did not go to the cinema at all in 2021 but I did manage to watch Shang-Chi and Black Widow on Disney+. I liked both in very different ways, but Shang-Chi is probably my favourite.
I didn’t watch any new movies that I can recall beyond this, which is quite sad when I think about it.
I have since been to the cinema a week or so ago when local children went back to school and the screen was pretty much empty. It was the only way I’d do it. I saw Spider-Man: No Way Home. But this was this year, not last. Still, since it technically came out last year at an inopportune, busy time, I guess I could say that it counts for 2021. In which case, that definitely was my favourite. I’ll expand on that in the movie thread at a later date.

TV Show: Wandavision. A pleasant surprise to be sure. Funny, mysterious, eerie. It kept people guessing and theorising all the way through (in a way I haven’t experienced in a while) and had a satisfying, emotionally impactful conclusion. There was a particular joy in finding people theorising on Twitter and YouTube each week.

Book: I haven’t read any fiction for quite a while, which seems strange. I tend to read academic/non-fiction books for research purposes instead, which might sound boring but the stuff I read never really seems boring to me. I can’t recall one that specifically came out in 2021, but of those that I read in 2021, and were of a very readable nature, I enjoyed Helen of Troy: Goddess, Princess, Whore by Bettany Hughes (2005). It has been out for quite a while and there have been some new developments since, but I like her style.

Song: Not sure if I actually listened to any ‘new’ music. Or if I had a track I played more often than others. So in the absence of a proper answer I’ll just say La-Hee.

Dish/Food: Souvlaki.

Place to eat: I do not know…

Holiday: My trip up North to attend my cousin’s wedding. Not only was this the first time I had seen most family since 2019, but I extended it to see other places of emotional significance to me. And I saw about fifty seals on the rocks right up close to me at St. Mary’s Lighthouse. Pretty awesome.

FFF
What was your favorite thread: Is Valia Pira another FFIX allusion to previous games?
What was your favorite Birthweek event: Stellazzio Coin Hunt. I appreciated the effort that went into hiding these, the clever clues, and also the cegling variants!
What was your favorite seasonal event: Christmas Writing Event [2021] - Oh, no! Santa resigned?!
Which event do you hope to see/look forward to next year: I keep seeing the demand for Moogle Murder Mystery 3 so I will try my best to bring this into being sometime this year! It takes ages to prepare though.
What is your favorite Cegling: Because it is not a penguin, but an ice dragon. I would never dare make one of LJ's sons a penguin.
Okay, I don't really have a solid favourite.
Favorite FFF-specific Meme(s): I feel like Adam has been teased too much, so I’ll let him hang up his wasp-shoes and fix his broken television and instead put forward LJ’s toe photobombs.
Which item do you hope to buy in the Mogshop next year: Not me specifically (and certainly not alone), but I do hope some people buy some of the characters in the Mascot Market so that they can finally become forum smileys.
Which forum were you most active in? (Find this in your stats on the forum list page): No Post Count Archive with 2,436 posts.
How many posts/messages do you currently have: You have 9,013 Posts and 421 Threads.
How much Gil/MP do you currently have? 2545 Gil and 29 MP.

EDIT - ignore the glitch. It is meant to be all within a single spoiler, but instead Cerberus wanted to get involved...