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Davey Gaga

Davey Gaga

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Yet another split in the population when asked this question. Do you believe that there is something much greater out there? Do you think that there are such things as "Aliens"? Is the Universe actually infinite, or just sizable beyond our scales?

Discuss.

(Note: Try not to fall into the trap of arguing "Creation" theories.)
 
I really do think that there are many other types of life forms around the universe, the universe is EXTREMELY HUGE, spanning billions and billions of light years.
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By looking at that pic showing thousands of other galaxies, and each of those galaxies having millions of stars and many billions of planets, I really do think theres life forms out there, It's just too big not to have anything else.
 
I don't think we are the only beings in the solar system. As TB said, the Universe is so vast, with thousands of galaxies, and we're in just one of them. I think there is much more out there, somewhere, but too far away for us to be able to see. Perhaps we're living in a parallel universe for all we know. We can't provide evidence that we're the only beings and we can't provide evidence that we're not the only beings.
I remember there was this theory that -we- were the aliens. I'll look into that more because I have no idea where I read/heard that. But imagine if that theory was true. o_O.
 
Doesn't the term "alien" refer to something foreign and unknown to us? For example, I've heard some people describe illnesses/diseases "alien-like" - not for the feeling of green sludge flailing around, but because it's not normal or known to us. I've always used the term "alien" to describe such things, kind of metaphorically.

I agree with you two. It's absolutely foolish to believe that we are the only living organisms in the entire Universe. After all, they once thought the atom was the smallest thing, until they could look inside it and see Protons, Neutrons, Electrons, Nuclei, shells and such like. If we can muster a deeper look into the Universe, surely to hell we'll find something, right?
 
Even if there arent any intelligent life forms, that can think for themselves, there surely should be at least a planet where theres water or some other type of simple life like bacteria. Ive read somewhere that scientists find floating bacteria around outer space, they cant identify it because it was never seen before, I think it could traveled a long way from somewhere else. Maybe some day, we will stumble upon another civilization or they will find us. They are probably much more technologically advanced than us, because, us modern humans were only around the earth for like 30,000 years. And it hasent even been 100 years since we discovered space flight, those aliens or intelligent life forms might have been around for over a billion years and discovered space flight millions of years ago.
 
I think the sheer fact that we actually believe that we might be the only "intelligent" life in the universe is proof in itself of how limited our scope of reality is and how narrow-minded most humans are. Humans just cannot even begin to wrap their minds around the vastness of the universe and we'll never be able to comprehend all that is out there. I think it's naive to say that we are the only intelligent beings in the universe. And what do you even consider "intelligent"? There could be something out there so much more advanced than we are, that we wouldn't even be able to recognize because they are so much above us and our definition of what "intelligent" is.
 
Um...sorry to bump an old thread but this really intrest me.

I think it's somewhat impossible for us, humans to be the only 'intelligent' species in the universe. It's not a matter of if we find them, it's when. The human race will come into contact of an E.T if not in my lifetime then my offspring.

There is probably a distant planet near a distant star, I'm not that educated on this topic since I was in hospital at the time they were teaching it at school. I the chances of another planet not being habitable is impossible, the universe or possible multiverse is vast.

We do not consider outself aliens, but the aliens who might even looks like us would consider us aliens. What do you suppose they even look like some green blob or something human like eg. Kryptonians.
 
That word, Multiverse, reminds me of an article I read somewhere about the Omniverse. I'll try and dig it up again. Oh, you didn't bump anything too archaic, the last post was December 3rd. Quite recent.
 
Anyways, I don't know anything for sure (*alien laser-pointed rifle pointing at me*) but I DO know that it's possible. We are not narrow-minded for excluding something we know won't exactly visit us often, but there's always a chance. And not ALL humans are ignorant to possible existance to alien life-forms. Just the logical ones who believe that if you can't detect it with any of the five senses, then it doesn't exist. Then there are those who actually HAVE genuinely encountered aliens and cannot express it without mockery. But, I live by the moment. I do not deny foreign life-forms, and this is so because we could be PROVEN wrong in our lifetime, so I'm just sayin'. That's my two cents, so if I'm wrong, then remember that it is my opinion.

Now, I have to...(*alien laser-pointed rifle "accidently" misfires*) errr... take a bath. Yeah, that's it, take a bath.
 
i see it as we are the only intelligent lifeforms in our solar system, but not in space... otherwise we would've found the others already,
it's a bit arrogant to think we're the only beings in space, there have been found planets where life IS possible, exact copies of our Earth, not talking about mars but planets in other solar systems, they just haven't been able to actually see if there are people, or "aliens" are walking around, just able to see the atmosphere, and colours of water and plants

at least, that's what national geographic channel says! and i watch it every night...
i'm pretty sure there are other planets with a certain lifeform, but i think they'd look like us, not the green guys from the movies that want to invade other worlds and slaughter every being on our planet

that's how i see it...
 
omniverse is a term used to differentiate a limited number of universes from all existent universes.
Universe: The inside description of a context that is relative in size/structure (attributes/modes) to the known universe.
Multiverse: The part of infinity that directly joins a given universe with all possible configurations of that universe.
Omniverse: Infinity, all possible attributes and modes are in play, multiverses are categorized by the attributes/modes active in its child universes.
This can be visualized by thinking of this as a tree structure: the omniverse is the trunk, the multiverse is branch, and the universe is a secondary branch.
Alternatively, the omniverse is the forest, a multiverse is a tree in the forest, a universe is a branch on that tree, and all further branches are further subset horizons within that universe.
Obviously it goes without saying that this model itself must be limited by a horizon. Thus, it is at best incomplete.
End of infinity It is possible that even if each multiverse had completely different physics, and the amount of possibilities went off in even the most unlikely directions, there would be a limit and an end to the amount of possibilities (which would be clasified as the end of the omniverse, and an end of infinity).
This necessity of this term comes from the current theories and speculations about the "Universe" splintering into: universe, multiverse, many-worlds interpretation, M-theory, Parallel universe, Possible worlds and so on, some of which are nonexistent outside the realm of science fiction. So a term that represents "all universes" has become necessary. Etymologically, "Universe" might be translated as "all facing", i.e., confronting or addressing everything. Traditionally, the term is meant to refer to the entirety of reality. Omni is a prefix meaning "all", making the omniverse encompass all possible universes, unlike the multiverse that can encompass any two or more universes. Recently, the idea of a multiverse has had limited although notable scientific appeal, and widespread popular appeal, in spite of the inherent etymological contradiction that it introduces.
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Thats off wikipedia , tries to explain it :P lol

My thoughts though .... of course there must be other life forms somewhere, would we not be vain if we thought we were the only ones, what I want to see though is proof that magic exists. All the ideas behind magic be it in FF or Charmed or whatever MUST have come from somewhere and they cant all be made up surely ? ?
 
I believe its only a matter of time before first contact is made with alien races, from far off worlds. But will it be them waiting for the right point in human development to make contact(are they watching right now?) or us(humans)who initiate contact with a randomly discovered alien civilization??


I just hope it happens in my lifetime
 
niloc said:
I believe its only a matter of time before first contact is made with alien races, from far off worlds. But will it be them waiting for the right point in human development to make contact(are they watching right now?) or us(humans)who initiate contact with a randomly discovered alien civilization??


I just hope it happens in my lifetime
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Hmmm ... interesting question.

Statistically speaking, it is a certainty that there is other life out there in the wider universe. However, I don't know if many follow Science news, but scientists recently have started to be able to "map" Dark Matter in the Universe (no not the stuff used to summon Odin :D), and though it is impossible to detect by sight, it does exist and it seems that possibly 7/10th's of the Universe largely consists of nothing. :D
 
I think to answer the question everyone seems to dwelling on, "Does life exist outside of our measly little planet?" we must first very clearly define the term "life".

What exactly characterizes something as alive? First we only considered ourselves and the animals to be alive. Then we allowed trees and plants and what not to fall into the category. Eventually we let bacteria and the like also enter the ever popular grouping of things that are, indeed, alive.

Not all too long ago, scientists decided the same thing I did, that in order to determine if something is alive or not, we need a clear definition. If someone can find the exact definition they used, that would be very helpful.

On the other hand, who are we to say that this most latest and greatest definition of a living being is the one that is going to stick as the ultimate breaking point in the determination of classifying something as alive? Perhaps we haven't found "life" outside of Earth because we limit the term alive too much.

More than likely, however, even with the definition of what makes something alive as it stands now, there is life outside of this planet. We can use the fact that the universe is, in fact, very large as our main argument, but that again is fairly foolhardy as size clearly does not matter in this discussion. What does matter, however, is the mere possibility of another planet, or the like, being capable of sustaining said life form, or that said life form is capable of living on a particular plant, however you wish to look at it.

In my opinion, of course there is life out there. We may need to expand our views and opinions on what exactly alive includes, or we may just need to look longer and harder, maybe even farther, but no matter how you cut it, reasonably... even if you're a Christian (God never said he only made YOU you self centered silly, you)... we can probably say that there is.
 
For an honest answer, I do not know. If there was evidence that such life existed beyond our solar system, I would be inclined to believe it. I simply do not like to make assumptions before the evidence is given if it's not an immediate decision. There is plenty of outer space beyond our solar system; that could be true, but we simply don't know what's out there.
 
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