Bakusa
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When did I say their popularity status determined their genre? I didn't. I'm telling you their sound IS pop punk. I don't know how to make this any clearer to you.green day and antiflag arent a certain genre because they are mainstream....its about their sound.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_punk
If you read my post I said they were pop punk.and btw....the ramones ARE pop punk....BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY SOUND LIKE IT...at least imo.
My original point here is that Green Day and Anti-Flag, especially their recent albums, are a completely shitty starting point of listening to punk. The magic of punk rock is it's attitude, DIY ethics, and value, not just "how cool it sounds". "American Idiot" and most of Anti-Flag's albums scream "Hey look at me I'm trying too hard to cater to punk fans while still remaining friendly to the general public and make money".
Punk is a legendary genre, and I'd like to be able to spread bands that are worthy of it to people, rather than feed them the crap that punk was against in the first place.