Science: how far is too far?

that hadron collider, is in my opinion bad news for everyone..i hate these scientist who think they can play god..
stop wasting time on things like that, and get curing people of major illnesses.
:S
makes me mad thinking about it.
how the hell they got permission to build that hadron collider is beyond me =_=
i hope something goes wrong and it has to be shut down, instead of wasting money on it.
 
Tell me something, since you are so worthy, what have you dedicated your life to? I presume you spend every waking moment folding proteins for cancer, right?

You took the words right out of my mouth

that hadron collider, is in my opinion bad news for everyone..i hate these scientist who think they can play god..
stop wasting time on things like that, and get curing people of major illnesses.
:S
makes me mad thinking about it.
how the hell they got permission to build that hadron collider is beyond me =_=
i hope something goes wrong and it has to be shut down, instead of wasting money on it.

what scientists are you referring too?? Instead of moaning about how mad they make you, maybe you should be grateful for all the things you have in modern society thanks to them.
 
they may be accidents, but they cant hope for more accidents in the future, i dont see how the HC is actually a good thing, you will eat them words when eveything starts to go wrong, the plan is to create so called mini blackholes, blackholes themselves have barely been studied, how is creating a handful of mini ones going to benefit us?


"Point is you can't limit science like that, it's not as if theres definetely a "cure" for cancer we just haven't "found" yet, it might be impossible, then you just wasted all that money on absolutely nothing"-mayb if todays scientist were doing something worthwhile then there would be a cure, or at least a breakthrough for things like cancer, my point is, playing god like this will only lead us into a very very shit future.

and your last part of your comment is pathetic, i never said i was "so worthy" i was just expressing my opionion asshole, just like you did just now..
get your head out of your ass.

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"what scientists are you referring too?? Instead of moaning about how mad they make you, maybe you should be grateful for all the things you have in modern society thanks to them"
im grateful for what we have, i just wish they realise that fucking around with things which in reality could potentially doom us all, is not somehthing i am going to be grateful for.
 
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oOTidusOo said:
they may be accidents, but they cant hope for more accidents in the future, i dont see how the HC is actually a good thing, you will eat them words when eveything starts to go wrong, the plan is to create so called mini blackholes, blackholes themselves have barely been studied, how is creating a handful of mini ones going to benefit us?


"Point is you can't limit science like that, it's not as if theres definetely a "cure" for cancer we just haven't "found" yet, it might be impossible, then you just wasted all that money on absolutely nothing"-mayb if todays scientist were doing something worthwhile then there would be a cure, or at least a breakthrough for things like cancer, my point is, playing god like this will only lead us into a very very shit future.

and your last part of your comment is pathetic, i never said i was "so worthy" i was just expressing my opionion asshole, just like you did just now..
get your head out of your ass.

Moderator Edit (deleted post added) :
"what scientists are you referring too?? Instead of moaning about how mad they make you, maybe you should be grateful for all the things you have in modern society thanks to them"
im grateful for what we have, i just wish they realise that fucking around with things which in reality could potentially doom us all, is not somehthing i am going to be grateful for.
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Wow, now you have achieved the unimaginable: getting on my nerves right on the first try. For once, you should refrain from using offensive language (such as the one underlined in the quote) against members. There's no need for such violent methods to be used and believe me, using those words will not make your arguments more convincing. Secondly, you are just posting the same with mere changes and not providing the reasons why your opinion is valid. This is the debate section, and in here you must validate your opinions with solid arguments.

Now, refrain from flamming or else you will get a straight one-day-suspension courtesy of moi.
 
OMG man with power has an itchy ban finger.
theres a reason i have to repeat myself, people in this forum dont seem to like it when someone has an idea that doesnt support them.
try banning them tools instead of me.

"violent methods" LOL i think i said ass..dear lord shoot me now, stop trying to make everyone a preppy kid with your rules, i bet you swear alot in your everyday, but you come on here with abit of authority and think, im gonna abuse this power and start silencing someone everytime they say a 'naughty word'

Mod Edit: You were warned.
 
Ok let us keep on the topic.
I am against limiting science because we must face it, all we have now happened accidentally (Decado) and we wouldn't be able to live like we do now without science. Science created all the resources we have now, and yes, some people refer it as a God as well. There are people who believe more in science than in religion. Back a while ago it was believed that science was meant to lead us to progress, and now thanks to the destruction we've caused, said belief was slightly twisted.

Science needs no limit, humans do.
 
Decado said:
Point is you can't limit science like that, it's not as if theres definetely a "cure" for cancer we just haven't "found" yet, it might be impossible, then you just wasted all that money on absolutely nothing
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Admittedly I've only read the contents of this page, however this statement struck me an one of the most lucid and insightful things I've read in a debate topic recently. Decado could not be more correct. Science is a broad front that sweeps forward. Some areas might progress faster than others but every facet works as a whole. You cannot limit any individual science or else it limits the development of them all.

The debates related to advanced technology, cloning, blackhole research, stem cell research, etc. are completely irrelevant. None of them can be limited or everything is limited. For example, the very first recorded discovery of penicillin was in 1875 by a man named John Tyndall who was researching diamagnetism, the study of magnetic repulsion. That was 53 years before Alexander Flemming actually discovered penicillin in 1928, found what it could do, and named it penicillin. Even that was accidental...
 
As I said before, I'd rather humanity was destroyed because they were on the brink of discovering a breakthrough, and accidentally destroyed themselves by some purely unaccounted for accident, whose probability was already determined to be low, than to be destroyed by nuclear warfare or some other means of war due to politics.

It has never been the case that religion, or any other factor in society increased economic growth. It has always been science and technology that increase economic growth. If there was one thing that could be learned from taking an economy class, and if you have forgotten everything you learned in it, this would be the fact that you would learn and probably never forget.

I personally think the people that shun or think science needs to be limited have fear or ignorance. Some people are afraid that science will overturn what they believe in religion. And some others are afraid that not limiting science means we are playing god. Others still are afraid that science, which they fail to see has any usefulness in their immediate lives, will destroy their lives.


But there are people who can live with both science and religion, because religion is nothing more than a personal belief, and it does not matter what science has found; if they refuse to concede it, then they can choose ignorance if they so desire. As for playing god, that is a role humanity has already been playing; it changes nothing. And if nuclear warfare did happen, that would also be due to science, which can allow such things to happen. In other words, it is too late to say we must limit science, and even so, science should not receive all the blame for nuclear warfare; politics may be partly to blame as well.
 
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