So many people are very affected by Amanda Todd's story.

[Catnip]

...Why?

I'm just confused as to what makes this one more worthy of attention than any of the other suicide stories out there. Genuinely just wondering.

Can I be honest? I'm going to get killed by saying this, but I'll just start it off by saying I truly mean no harm.

Amanda Todd was an extremely naive girl. I see girls like this all the time, who fall for a man's words, completely forgetting or not wanting to believe that there really is one thing on his mind. Did I say naive? I like the word moronic, it suits.

Like I said, I see girls like this all the time. They're literally everywhere. They make bad decisions, and it's unfair that females need to be extra careful and extra cautious - but tough fucking shit, that's reality. You have to be. Men run this joint (for now hehehe), and we need to cope with that.

Like many homosexuals/gay rights activists are to gay person suicides, I think a lot of people (who happen to be women, in my experiences so far) can empathize with Amanda's story for a very self-justified reason.

 

[Shu]

You know what I call a high school relationship? Practice. You know what I call a College relationship? A trial. There are exceptions, but no offense, high school relationships should never last in my opinion. College relationships hardly last at all either and if they do, they will have a hell of a rough patch.

After reading her story, granted I feel empathetic with bullying and such, but the story holds no merit. It's high school. No one physically held a weapon to her, she hooked up with someone, and some ass hat twisted her words most likely in journalism and made it a better story. Bullying happens every day. Racism, Sexism, Extreme Prejudice in doctrinated from Religion and/or cultural surroundings.. Hatred can be taught. Friends can be found in the most unlikely of places. It sounded like she was looking for a guy to be her one and only without any friends. If she was only looking to be with a guy.. I mean really? We are assholes these days, wake up ladies. You'll find an occasional good one in the batch of a million, but damn the culture and society to what they molded us into. Jaded, narcissistic, type A or type B personalities, either two much of a pussy, or too much of a walking hard on, we are what others think of us, instead of what we should think we should be.

Going back to her.. I feel for her, but suicide is a waste. It's the one true selfish thing in life/death. You are branded a whore because you slept with one guy that was someone's elses due to they "are in a relationship." Relationship claims ownership, no one is owned. A whore is someone who is paid money to sleep with people. That is all, not someone who slept with "one guy."

She could of survived, but due to extreme loneliness she chose to end it. It's on her family and her shoulders. It is only her fault, the bullying will always be there, but it's up to you how serious you take this life. I feel awful for saying it, but I know what it takes for you to think of death as an easy way out. Though if you are going to end it, you are going to end it. It's a waste of flesh, it drives sorrow into those that love you, and it's only escape for you. Look what you do to those who care about you, you twit.

 

[Starships]

Amanda had depression and anxiety and people keept on saying terrible things to her like " why don't you go and die " ? She actually tried to off herself before by drinking Bleach and nobody went " omg are you okay " ? They all made fun off her and photoshopped pictures of her to pictures of Bleach.

They kept on calling her nasty things and kept on saying to her online and offline go and die and so she did. Nobody really went to her and showed her love and support. It looked like her parents did nothing as well. But everybody people bullied her and people are still teasing her even though she died a few days ago. Look at her Facebook page and things about her on YouTube. People are saying terrible and nasty things to her still and shit like, I'm glad that she died.

I mean just look at this assbutt's page on Tumblr. Really disgusting. Amanda had to deal with people like that.

http://say-so-long-to-innocence.tumblr.com/

 

[L]

Amanda Todd was an extremely naive girl.

and you were never naive.

Not ever, not once. She was only 15.

I'm not so much upset that people aren't praising her and giving her attention, because honestly, it's not much different than what you'll hear in someone else's story who has been bullied.

But it's when people spend their time criticizing someone who is dead that it just becomes pathetic. It's like people are jealous that this child is being given all of this attention, it makes me sick.

But sometimes something is just a hit with the media, and that is all there is to it.

 

[Will Graham]

I imagine it gained widespread recognition because she made a video talking about her being bullied, then she killed herself due to bullying. Most of these stories only come to light after someone has died. In her case we can literally see what it was like for her before she took her life, rather than just hear about it second hand

 

[Catnip]

and you were never naive.

Not ever, not once. She was only 15.

This is the shit I'm talking about. I cannot empathize with the fact that this shit either just did not occur to her or she chose to ignore it. I knew, at such an incredibly early age, that people are dangerous. My father always taught me to be aware of my surroundings, especially in the presence of men, and I had to. He also made sure to help me realize that it wasn't sexism, it was realism. Maybe she didn't get taught these things. But how can I, at, say, 4, understand it so perfectly, while millions and trillions of young girls ten years older than that just can't? And that's what I'm saying. I just don't get it.

I imagine it gained widespread recognition because she made a video talking about her being bullied, then she killed herself due to bullying. Most of these stories only come to light after someone has died. In her case we can literally see what it was like for her before she took her life, rather than just hear about it second hand

This makes a lot of sense. I suppose the video did grab some attention.

 

[Starships]

This is the shit I'm talking about. I cannot empathize with the fact that this shit either just did not occur to her or she chose to ignore it. I knew, at such an incredibly early age, that people are dangerous. My father always taught me to be aware of my surroundings, especially in the presence of men, and I had to. He also made sure to help me realize that it wasn't sexism, it was realism. Maybe she didn't get taught these things. But how can I, at, say, 4, understand it so perfectly, while millions and trillions of young girls ten years older than that just can't? And that's what I'm saying. I just don't get it.

You still make some mistakes though. I remember when I was about her age and I trusted some guy who I thought " loved me " I didn't show my boobs but I was willing to do almost anything to impress him. I think it's the fact that young teens girls want love and a good love so badly that they're willing to do stupid things. You don't understand how much the media downright forces us to try and look perfect and how having a husband = a really good life. Buts she's still getting bullied after her death.

 

[Catnip]

You still make some mistakes though. I remember when I was about her age and I trusted some guy who I thought " loved me " I didn't show my boobs but I was willing to do almost anything to impress him. I think it's the fact that young teens girls want love and a good love so badly that they're willing to do stupid things. You don't understand how much the media downright forces us to try and look perfect and how having a husband = a really good life. Buts she's still getting bullied after her death.

Well...yeah. Of course I still make mistakes. Everyone does, nobody is perfect. Even making sure you make no mistakes is a mistake, since you don't learn anything in life.

As for the rest of your comment... see, that's still not using your head. That is still stupidity, in my personal perspective, because you're chasing clouds. That's elementary, and even then you should know better when you apply it to anything outside of recess and pretendy fun times. Like, say, real life.

 

[Squid]

I feel very sad for the girl. Not all kids are as smart and great and worldly as you apparently are, not all kids have parents that teach them right from wrong as clearly as your parents did.
She made a stupid mistake, a mistake that only a teen who is still finding herself, still working through self confidence issues and who probably wants attention would make. When you've got a guy telling you how beautiful you are and stuff and you're that young then you're going to feel flattered and if you're not as worldly or wise you're probably going to do something stupid if they ask you to.

She did something stupid and she paid a terrible price for it and I think that it is very sad that no one tried to help her after she posted her video a month before she died. The worst thing is kids are still bullying her on her facebook even though she is dead.

Kids are disgusting.

 

[Catnip]

I feel very sad for the girl. Not all kids are as smart and great and worldly as you apparently are, not all kids have parents that teach them right from wrong as clearly as your parents did.
She made a stupid mistake, a mistake that only a teen who is still finding herself, still working through self confidence issues and who probably wants attention would make. When you've got a guy telling you how beautiful you are and stuff and you're that young then you're going to feel flattered and if you're not as worldly or wise you're probably going to do something stupid if they ask you to.

She did something stupid and she paid a terrible price for it and I think that it is very sad that no one tried to help her after she posted her video a month before she died. The worst thing is kids are still bullying her on her facebook even though she is dead.

Kids are disgusting.

This discussion is starting to steer off-topic in regards to the thread. It doesn't explain how she got so much attention. Unless of course you consider my theory, since a lot of you are proving it right. You've all done silly things that are extreme and similar to her mistakes, so you empathize greatly and try to convince others that what she did really wasn't a huge deal, which helps you convince yourself that you're right. And you would be, as long as you grow and don't continue to do harm to others. That's all I'm getting out of this.

 

[Squid]

She got the attention from posting a 9 minute video on youtube about being bullied...had no one help her after watching it and then killing herself from being bullied still.... i think it's pretty obvious how it got so much attention

Plus being bullied after death too, would be keeping her in the spotlight.

 

[L]

So let me get this straight

You want to know why people are upset about the story of a girl who was tormented just because she showed her tits on the internet and had sex with a guy who she thought liked her, was then beaten for it and made fun of for a failed suicide attempt, where she then actually took her life.

Is that right?

Or was it that you wanted to know why you genuinely believe that other people believe that this event absolved the child of all her past doings?

Because they don't. They just have more important things to do than play god.

 

[Starships]

As for the rest of your comment... see, that's still not using your head. That is still stupidity, in my personal perspective, because you're chasing clouds. That's elementary, and even then you should know better when you apply it to anything outside of recess and pretendy fun times. Like, say, real life.

I was like 13 years old ! Of course I was chasing clouds ! I wasn't old enough to do Exams !

@ Squid

Thankyou so much + Rep !

Btw who's like " I going to commit suicide now and I really hope I get famous when I go to heaven ! Did you see Jesus ? 1000, 000 views on my YouTube Page for my suicide story, yaaaay !!! "

 

[Will Graham]

She got the attention from posting a 9 minute video on youtube about being bullied...had no one help her after watching it and then killing herself from being bullied still.... i think it's pretty obvious how it got so much attention

Plus being bullied after death too, would be keeping her in the spotlight.

There is your answer, it is all about the video she made. That's it. There's no real discussion there. Discussing Amanda Todd in general does seem to be in line with your opening post though, and allows for much more to be said on the issue

 

[Shaissa]

The thing is, she isn't the first one to be bullied or the last one. wont be the first or last teen to commit suicide because of a "love" or being bullied either, and that in of itself is tragic.
But yes this is getting so much attention cause she posted it on Youtube, and then after reading some negative post (not all were negative mind you) she did kill herself.
and that is why this is such a headliner...

It's tragic but give about a week or two, and sure enough something else will come along and this story well be almost forgotten minus the one line here or there....

 

[Silver Rocket]

What happened to Amanda Todd is truly and absolutely depressing, and the fact that people are STILL making fun of her even after death, and some of them even ENCOURAGING her death is absolutely revolting, trust me, I've had a friend who committed suicide at one point. It was very hard to deal with.

But let's be honest, stories like this make it on the news all the time, but all of a sudden, when Amanda Todd does it, people start paying attention? That's a bit disturbing, that once everything is over and done with, everyone just goes "Oh, yeah, that's sad. Oh well." and moves on, even though during the spur of the moment, they say that they want to make a difference.

I guarantee you that the people who claim to be "affected" by it are those very people. It's disgusting, and it even disturbs me more that it takes stories to make it on the news in order for people to wake up and realize that people WILL take drastic measures to end their own suffering, even if it's for a selfish reason.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for the family, I just hate the fact that it takes someone to actually commit suicide for people to open their eyes.

 

[Shu]

Honestly I hate to reiterate this, but where are the parents in all this? Their only resolution was to move her from to school to school and location to location, and then put her on meds? Really? I mean I'm not saying I could do a better job here, but the girl exposed herself to a perv, and the perv threatened her then leaked her info. Now I don't know if this all true. It could be that she fibbed a little because she was lonely.

She could be a bad person in fact, but either or.. she slept with a boy she just got to know. Again Parents? I know what's capable on the web still, and it is hard to manage.

I know it's the networking hub now, that we have PervBook and we have Skype (aka internet predator paradise), though still parents can at least monitor her email stream. Twelve year olds on the net is a scary thing. I would say even 15 year olds.

I know there was a lot more internet freedom back when, but the predators these days are in multitudes online, where as back when.. teenagers only had themselves to worry about. We have had a few on here in fact. (sorry to say) - Though those names won't be disclosed.

If I were her parents, and this if I were. I would have tried to involve her in a lot of extra circular activities outside the school. Kids are retarded in high school. I don't think they ever do think for themselves, and if they do they are the shy ones who barely open their mouth in opposition.

 

[Paddy McGee]

What happened to Amanda Todd is truly and absolutely depressing, and the fact that people are STILL making fun of her even after death, and some of them even ENCOURAGING her death is absolutely revolting, trust me, I've had a friend who committed suicide at one point. It was very hard to deal with.

But let's be honest, stories like this make it on the news all the time, but all of a sudden, when Amanda Todd does it, people start paying attention? That's a bit disturbing, that once everything is over and done with, everyone just goes "Oh, yeah, that's sad. Oh well." and moves on, even though during the spur of the moment, they say that they want to make a difference.

I guarantee you that the people who claim to be "affected" by it are those very people. It's disgusting, and it even disturbs me more that it takes stories to make it on the news in order for people to wake up and realize that people WILL take drastic measures to end their own suffering, even if it's for a selfish reason.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for the family, I just hate the fact that it takes someone to actually commit suicide for people to open their eyes.

But suicide didn't open anybody's eyes. 2 or so years back, we had a girl around the same age named Phoebe Prince. More relationship bullshit, the bullying, then a drastic suicide. In essentially, it's the same story: Cyber bullying, sex with a boyfriend, etc. Of course, those teenagers are/have being/been tried now and it brought bullying to the limelight.

I remember that being something of a big deal, but obviously that didn't open people's eyes enough to allow an incident like this to be salvaged.

 

[Exoskeleton]

This story gets way too much attention for it's own good. This is not the first time a young person had been bullied into suicide. When you think about it the girl made some mistakes, but apparently she kept making the same flashing mistake over and over again on webcams. Now none of the general public know the whole story but the amounts of praise and the complete asshole insults that this girl is getting after she's dead is ridiculous. Her parents did what they could, moving here there and everywhere(I doubt they had the funds to keep moving or for medical help after moving so many times because of teasing children). Yes it's sad she's dead. Yes she was bullied like many others. But she was not a complete saint and she does not deserve to die for it. Everyone should just leave the subject alone. The only reason she got so much attention was her apparent attractiveness(mostly boobs from the comments I've observed).

 

[Starships]

I disagree that we should leave the subject alone because then people will just ignore it and carry on like nothing tragic occurred I remember around about this time last year a girl committed suicide and everybody felt sorry for her and everything and about December it was like nothing ever happened, she was completely forgotten, it was like she never existed in the first place. And if we leave the subject alone Amanda will just become another forgotten girl.

Nov was her birthday right ? We should try and make Nov a anti- bullying month.