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Hey all, first time poster. Please be nice. XD

I read the theory and it sent a chill up my spine. specially that image of squall with a hole where his face should be. The nightmares! THE NIGHTMARES!!!
Erm, yes. anyway. Suffice it to say when I saw the ending movie many years ago, I missed that. (coulda gone my whole life without seeing it... where did I put my happy pills?) Anyway... it does make a certain sort of sense in the fact that a lot of plot twists kinda seemed pretty forced, and other plot elements, after they seemed to be too much trouble for Squall to really think about, disappeared as fast as they came. (Lunatic pandora. Wtf are you?) However, another interesting point against it is that Raine never comes into the story until after disc 1 (I think. correct me if I'm wrong. :/), so did squall just fabricate a mother for himself?
I was never able to make any sense of Ultimecia's 4th-form in-battle dialogue until this theory came along. another point to support this theory is the question: how did Rinoa survive running out of oxygen in space? It seemed to be almost only because squall wanted her to.

I always kinda thought of the final FMV as try to find his own time, like he resolved to do just before the cutscene, but being able to do so. The blurred vision of rinoa, his fondest memory and the one he was trying desperately to recall, symbolized that he was being "absorbed into time" (like what happened when party members stayed dead too long in the final battle) because he was losing grip. also this kind of explains the *shudder* faceless image. it was his realization that he was losing himself entirely.

oh dear... I didn't mean to leave a wall of text. ^^;;; anyway, that's my two cents.
 
I actually really like this theory. Though it may not be true -- my boyfriend will find it fascinating. I'll show him the site!

The plot does grow stranger and stranger, and then you have the extremely surreal ending...

I totally could buy it. On some days, haha.
 
An analysis discussing the possibility that Final Fantasy VIII contains a 'hidden story' in which Squall dies and the rest of the game

Mod Edit: Can you put a bit more effort into your post please? This really doesn't add much to the thread topic. Thanks. :)
 
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Wow that made perfect sense and yet i don't believe it.
ff8 was awesome and i don't think that anything could change my opinion about it.
But it was fun to read.
 
It's an interesting theory, but I highly doubt it is true.


My major reason against this: How did he imagine that Laguna is his father? If everything after disc 1 was all a dream then the only things Squall could've established about Laguna through the dream sequences is that

a-He's a moron (Squall's own words)
b- He has a crush on someone called Julia HEARTILLY who also happens to have the same last name as Rinoa.

Why would he dream that someone who's a moron and romantically involved with his love interests' mother is his father? Squall got hit in the chest not in the head.

Also...Squall is not the only male lead in FF to suddenly become the world saving hero. Cloud couldn't even get into SOLDIER and he saved the world didn't he? Squall on the other hand became a SeeD at his first try so I don't see why that's an issue.

True some of the plot twists are random and catch people off guard but when you see it from a different angle...if it's all something that Squall dreamt up of then that is one MASSIVE stretch of imagination. He should've been a writer not a SeeD. Less occupational hazard and he wouldn't be lying on his deathbed in the first place.
 
Very interesting. Interesting indeed.

It all makes sense too, and to be honest, I kinda thought Squall died too. But the whole heaven part doesn't make sense. How did/does everyone else die?


To be in Squall's heaven, they'd have to all die.

Or did I miss that explanation?
 
I think it's an interesting theory actually though likely not true at all. :hmmm:

I've heard a few theories about Squall being dead in some way or another over the years and I guess with the ambiguity of the ending, it could be interpreted that way. But then you could also interpret it as a happy ending as well. :lew:

I may keep this theory in mind on my next playthrough though and see how well it holds up. xD
 
There's no way this theory can be true. People, we are talking about a world in which a magic called "cure" can heal the sick/wounded. I'm sure things like this happens in battles all the time in the FF world. Just because you don't see it in the battles, doesn't mean it translates as something completely different in the cutscenes. Squall's injury was him KOing from a battle with the sorceress. When yoou play as Edea, you don't see her summoning her ice all detailed like at enemies in her limit break.

I think Squalls question of his wound was more a matter of him wondering who the heck would heal him after he attacked Boobs McGee.
 
This is a very interesting theory, although for the sake of what I like about this game I don't believe it to be true. :wacky:
It does make sense though, it does seem to get very odd later on in the game, but if this was all in his imagination (as such) then he'd need one hell of an overactive imagination and I honestly don't think that the Squall at the start would think up something like that, he's rather closed off at the start in fear that he'll expose himself and be vunerable, although towards the end of disc one is when he starts to soften up a little bit. :hmmm:
A nice theory, but I see it as nothing more, personally.
That doesn't mean to say that I don't think it's interesting, but I don't quite think it's true.
 
This is what happens when you try to over-analyze something. I wholeheartedly disagree with this theory. First of all, it is Final Fantasy, with an emphasis on "Fantasy." So he got pierced with a gigantic icicle. One word: Revive. In battle, characters get KO'd all the time which is why there are spells such as Full-Life and the like to revive them.

I think it would be pretty stupid to kill off the main character anywhere except at the end of the game.

That being said, I am a huge Squall/FFVIII fan so I may have a bit of a biased opinion. But logically, I don't see any reason whatsoever for the Squall dead/rest of the game is a dream theory.
 
Lord Celestial said:
This is what happens when you try to over-analyze something. I wholeheartedly disagree with this theory. First of all, it is Final Fantasy, with an emphasis on "Fantasy." So he got pierced with a gigantic icicle. One word: Revive. In battle, characters get KO'd all the time which is why there are spells such as Full-Life and the like to revive them.

I think it would be pretty stupid to kill off the main character anywhere except at the end of the game.

That being said, I am a huge Squall/FFVIII fan so I may have a bit of a biased opinion. But logically, I don't see any reason whatsoever for the Squall dead/rest of the game is a dream theory.
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Deaths in the story and battles are 2 very different things. If thats the case, then why isnt Aerith/Aeris able to be revived in VII? If its that easy to just Revive them, then why can't she be brought back? It's because the story is set with who dies, and who doesn't. 2 very very different things.
 
Claire said:
Deaths in the story and battles are 2 very different things. If thats the case, then why isnt Aerith/Aeris able to be revived in VII? If its that easy to just Revive them, then why can't she be brought back? It's because the story is set with who dies, and who doesn't. 2 very very different things.
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Well surely a phoenix down revives from being Ko'd, not killed
 
If he was dead, then he wouldn't have made it to KH games....

But seriously, Squall doesn't die. He was stabbed in the shoulder, that's not a life threatening wound in their world....
 
Whilst I can see what this guy is trying to say, it screams of an article written by someone who simply didn't like the game. I can't say I've seen many, or any, people that like this game trying to pick it apart as he has.

Sometimes I think people read too much into little theories; just take the story as it's given to you. Granted, the end scene's are strange (for the life of me I can't remember that scene with Squall's face missing!). Honestly though, even on disk 1, before Squall supposedly 'dies', how normal is it to be on the verge of assassinating a sorceress?! This is a fantasy game. It will have fantasy elements, such as those scenes at the end.
 
I started to read it, but I gave up after a few paragraphs.

I don't buy the whole "Squall is dead" theory. As a matter of fact, if you want to go that route, I'd buy "Squall is unconscious or in a coma".

Personally, I believe that everything we saw Squall do, he actually did. So what if some relatively strange things happened, such as the Moombas and NORG. Strange things happen in quite a few FF games.

FF4: Cecil
has lunarian blood
and is
brothers with Golbez
FF6: The entire world goes through a cataclysmic event and no characters die
FF7: How many comas did Cloud have?
FF10 : Tidus
was a dream
and Auron
was already dead

Maybe I'm missing some vital ones, but these are the ones that come to mind.
 
GrieverZER0 said:
Well surely a phoenix down revives from being Ko'd, not killed
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I know this, read what he posted. I said that because he made it sound like all you have to do is revive Squall if he dies like that. Hints why I posted what I did in response to that.
 
To me it's an interesting concept if for any other reason then there are so many things so familuar to Final Fantasy X with this game. The post fight music, the side game (Cards with 8, Blitzball with 10) and Zell even does alot of the same movements during cutscenes as Wakka does in 10.

So I could see it being meant to give you the option to feel the game in that perspective. Regardless, I'm playing through 8 again right now, about to hit the 3rd disk and loving the game all over again after all these years. I have beat 10 3 times over and it's my all time favorite FF game..
 
It's an interesting theory, I always assumed it the icicle was just magic and that it knocked him out as opposed to killing him. I'm really not one for analysing things to death, which is why I never liked English. It does help explain the weird ass ending though.

BTW, the shot with the hole in Squall's face? That actually scared me ...
 
Its nicely put together and interesting theory but do I believe it..no...

I dont think squall does die. In the end he is walking across time and a desert to get back to his friends. But he gets exhausted and falls down and all he can think of is how he got there and is trying to remember riona and his freinds. Rinoa finds him where they said they would try to go if seperated. And is upset he is passed out and you see this in her reaction. Blowing away the mist etc.

Then it goes throught the video scene showing everyone alive other than squall but you clearly see Rinoa turn to someone and point up..You wait till the end of the credits and she is turning to squall and he did surive..

thats what I believe...

but everyone is welcome to there opinion
 
woah........ i have no idea what to say, but that just seams like a really cool idea. someone e-mail Square and show them the site!
 
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