Star Wars: The Prequels

You do have a point. I have to admit that the new Star Trek movie was certainly the best film I saw over the summer. As far as remakes/reboots go, Star Trek got it right. None of the actors really got on my nerves, there was no irritating "Jar Jar" type of character, and the script was pretty fluid.
 
I am a gigantic star wars fan and nothing can touch the original trilogy

having said that, I enjoy the prequels too.

I know a lot of people complain about the acting performances and there are some pretty bad ones, but I thought Liam Neeson as Qui Gon Jin was fantastic, along with the guy who played Obi Wan and the kid who played young anakin in Episode I. Plus, the visuals are stunning and they did a lot more with the fight scenes than they did or could have done in the original trilogy.
 
shieldaroundthek said:
I know a lot of people complain about the acting performances and there are some pretty bad ones, but I thought Liam Neeson as Qui Gon Jin was fantastic.
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I'd agree with that. No amount of bad directing could possibly ruin the acting of master thespians such as Liam Neeson or Christopher Lee. Everyone else kinda ranged from average to embarrassing though :P
 
I think the one thing that really killed the prequels was the character of Anakin. He was whiney, emo, and just down right annoying. I get that he's supposed to be a teenager... but seriousy, not every teenager acts like that. And who could not see that he was going to be trouble in the future? It would have been more interesting to see him as a respectable person so when he actually does fall, it hurts much more.

Also we hear how great of a hero Anakin was before becoming Vadar in the original trilogy, but we never see this in the prequels.

characters were dull, the only one that interested me in the slightest was Obi Wan, but I think Ewan did a good job remaining true to the character.

Also so many things were over the top. Why does everything look so much more technologically advanced in the prequels?

To many thing they tried to make epic on a grand scale. We get someone who uses a double sided light saber, then two light sabers, then four... then when all the jedi are killed they are simply just gunned down by droids? Wow lame. I find the battle at the Death star in both IV and VI, and the battle of Hoth, along with every light saber battle in the OT to be so much more suspenseful.

Also the dialogue and romance. Sure the dialogue in the OT wasn't shakespear, but it didn't make me cringe the way it does in the PT.

I think they should have done Anakin completely different so that he was acutally someone to look up to, and not focus so much on politics but on the actual war they were supposed to be fighting. (Where the hell was the clone war?) Oh and build some chemistry between the characters so we can actually believe that they talk to each other more than once a month.

Though I will admit, I hated the ewoks in Return of the Jedi.
 
As some one who can't watch any of the Star Wars movies anymore because I memorized the script (not just lines, SCRIPT!!), I just don't believe the prequels lived up to what they could have been.

Lucas had nearly two decades of pushing the absolute limits of film technology with Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park and others, but then managed in my opinion, to both not do enough CGI and overdo the CGI at the same time.

As for specific characters: Eh, I can live with Jar Jar. Admittedly, the Ewoks weren't the best either. In fact, most fans agree that RotJ was far lower than TESB. Darth Maul actually made sense. Along with how he and the Jedi in general fought. There should have been far more extensive training in that time compared to when Luke arrives on the scene, so using the Force to jump and pivot was expected. Using weird variations of a standard sword is expected for the same reasons. (Except Force whips... I'll never accept those.)

Padme, Anakin... Jango... Trade Fed leaders... I just want to punch all of them. Several times. Padme was written to look far too naive and stupid, especially compared to young (deleted scene) Mon Mothma, not to mention Leia. You shouldn't be allowed to be a senator for an entire half a planet when you don't even know how the galatic government works (Palpatine had to explain damn near everything for/to her).

Anakin... Don't even get me started.

Jango: Talk about beyond failure. Any one who watched (read: obsessed) over the original trilogy before 1999 was beyond amazed by Boba Fett; how he came about, how he became a bounty hunter, his anger towards Solo, and just his general coolness factor. Partly due to damn near none of that being explained in any realistic detail in the movies, and were sketchy at best in the books. Jango was just a total disappointment. He's a slightly above average hunter, and that's probably giving him too much, as evidenced by the fact that barely any one has heard of him. Yet, I'm willing to bet that even a few Ewoks had heard of Boba.

The actors: Don't even get me started. I refuse to believe this actually happened in a galaxy far far away. Which is the whole point of movies, to suspend reality for 2+ hours.

Writing: Talk about moving insanely fast, partly because you MASSIVELY hyped up the Clone Wars with incredibly enough, and I give an insane amount of credit to this, ONE... Repeat, ONE sentence in the ENTIRE original triology. I mean, come on... Every body and their grandmother knows how much discussion went on in the 16.5 years between RotJ and PM concerning what the Clone Wars were like. Can you even possibly imagine how fricking hot the forums, discussion boards, and chat rooms would have been like if the internet of today was around in 1977? There'd be more pages containing discussions of what the Clone Wars would be like than pages of porn... And it is barely shown at all in the new triology. The opening fight that starts the war in AotC, and the second-ish to last fight in RotS. Yeah... Crappy.

Also on writing... It BEYOND irks me to no end how much anti-Bush was in it. Anakin, "If you're not with me... Then you're my enemy! And this is my new empire! And I listen to what ever a wrinkly old man tells me to do! Because I'm awesome!"



I know I'm getting on a massive rant...


PM... Crappiest space battle I've ever seen... AotC... NO space fights... Okay, Jango and Obi Wan go at it in an asteroid field... But that was mostly tying back to the Falcon in another asteroid field. RotS... An atmospheric battle... Eh... AND NO MENTION IN ANY OF THE MOVIES OF SHIELDS OR HYPERDRIVE, except in PM, when they're escaping Naboo. You'd think shields were invented after the Clone Wars, based on how little they talk about it before the birth of Luke/Leia, and how much they talk about it after birth of Luke/Leia.



I'm just thoroughly disappointed. If you couldn't tell. Yes, the originals had bad spots... Most of RotJ did really... But the good made up for it (For RotJ, read: Bikini). The new trilogy had far more bad spots than good.

EDIT: I could write another several paragraphs on this, but I'm not entirely sure how much the admins and you readers are willing to tolerate. Heh.
 
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