Ultimecia Vs Sephiroth Vs Kuja Vs Kefka

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Out of these four main villains, who do you think is the best?

I, personally, think Kuja and Kefka are the best, with Kuja just a li'l bit ahead. Ultimecia is a close third, but Sephiroth is just... blah.

Opinions? I'll explain my choice after a few replies.
Also, please give good reasoning, not just "OMGZ sefiorth pwnz j00!!1!1!!!11one!"
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Well, in terms of character, Kuja blows them all away. Sephiroth's motives don't make any sense. His mother was not an Ancient and he himself is not an Ancient, which he admits in the Temple of the Ancients. Thus, he has no real reason to evil other than "I am!" Kuja became vil to justify his existence and support his ego. A narcissistic egocentric, he had to support this belief his entire life even though his body, his very existnece contradicted it. Thus he sought to gain power and supremacy over all life to prove that the view he held of himself was valid.

Kefka was just insane. Ultamecia hated SeeDs.... That's it.

In terms of power and wickedness, Kuja and Kefka blow them both away. Kuja manipulated and used Queen Brahne to kill thousands then easily predicted her betrayal and killed her and her entire fleet. Before this he created the entire Black Mage race as tools of warfare and when they gained a mind of their own, he manipulated their fear of death. Kefka poisoned hundreds in a castle, spent hours at his lesure near the end nuking places with the Light of Judgment and basically creating an pocalypse on his planet where he gradually broke down the wills and hopes of every living being.

Kuja and Kefka are the best by far.
 
Kuja and Kefka are the competant villains. Well, kinda, since they let the protagonists live longer than five seconds. Anyway... Kuja does, indeed, manipulate Brahne into the murder of entire continents, and he doesn't care about the moral implications. Kefka is very similar, but he's more hands-on with his murder. Kuja is better, as he doesn't think twice about using others to further his own twisted goals.

Character wise, I prefer Kuja to Kefka, 'cause he's poetic evil.
 
I would probably go for Kefka because he was the one that actually attained godhood or the powers of the three Goddesses. He even got his own tower, a death-ray to torch any parts of the world, a cult after him, and a unforgettable wicked laugh. Though the man wasn't too bright in my opinion.

Next would be Ultimecia. She was a sorceress from the far future who actually compressed time. Had her own castle and four guardians. Not to mention that, she somehow got Omega Weapon to live there. She also had the power to pull down planets on the heads of her enemies. (Sephiroth had to use a materia to get something similar.)

Sephiroth was dement and crazed. The man became more of a parasite. Although being the elite among the elite, he was pathetic when he lost to Cloud, who was then a low ranking Soldier.

Kuja was scared of dying and didn't know the meaning of life til he was on the verge of death himself. A victim of his own fear. But he was in trace-mode for a very long time.
 
In terms of character then Kuja is the best since his reasoning was explained more and was more believable than the likes of Sephiroth who is very flat in comparison. Kefka though gets special mention for actually achieving what he wanted to do unlike 99% of villains. Sephiroth is overrated although not the worst of all time by any means and Ultimeca is bad on an almost Necron level.
 
I think we know who I'm going to say :P But I can't give an honest opinion since I've not played VI, VII or VIII. If it was Kuja vs. Seymour, then Kuja would pwn his arse. Seymour had an Aeon - ooh noooes! I've already explained why I like Kuja on the "Kuja" thread, and I'm not explaining it again. Far too long.
 
Kuja wins.

Also, Sephiroth is sweet at life, but Jenova is so much better. She was a freaking meteor, or whatever. A 'calamity' that smacked into the planet.
A meteor. That's awesome. More villians should come from outer space!
 
Kefka. He actually achieved his goal. And he's quite frightening. Kuja comes in second. What's not to like about a guy that wears a thong and starts a world war?
 
Sethiroth was a mummy's boy :P lol
Kuja was a cross dresser with a bad temper :P
Ultimeca Was just a big breasted bitch :P
Kefka has to be the best as he kills a race of Espers and make one of the lead females (who's half human half Esper) Choose whether she wants to live or die.
 
Kefka was just F'n insane. Kuja and Sephiroth would be worthy opponesnt as well, but I think Kefka would come out on top.

Ultimecia...for God's sake, if ya can't pass 2nd grade spelling, you don't deserve to be an FF final boss, let alone in competition with these other 3 awesome villains.
 
Sephiroth in terms of power, since Square has stated that he's the most powerful villain they've ever created.As for reasoning terms I can understand that Seph wwas not and had admitted he wasn't an Ancient, but his reason for calling meteor wasn't purely egocentric, it was more like Seymour's way of thinking. He wanted to rid the world of today's mankind which was sickening and create a new world order with his mother.
And here's a comment I once read on Kefka which had me ustoppably rofling:
I thought the main reason why Kefka went mega meltdown on the world of order was because he was batshit crazy. That lovable nutty clown.
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ROFLmao: and I agree with that and with Kefka and Seph wiping ass.
 
Sephiroth in terms of power, since Square has stated that he's the most powerful villain they've ever created.
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...just no. If they've said that, then they've reach a level of retardedness that is cosmic in scale. But I really doubt they've said that. Can you provide the quote or a source?

Because Cloud of Darkness, Zeromus, Neo-EXdeath, Kefka, Kuja, Yu Yevon/Sin, Lavos, Id, Grahf, Deus...they're all stronger than Sephiroth ever was. And there's so many more Square villains that make Seph look like a chump.
 
I've heard that in Kingdom Hearts that Kuja is pretty insane in terms of power, but if you compare his power in Final Fantasy to that of other villains, he just doesn't compare.

He was supposedly uber strong in Advent Children. Now, if he's so strong, why was he only in the film for a whole seven minutes, tops?
 
I love Kefka & Kuja <3 But If I have to pick just one? I'll go with Kefka. For reasons I've stated in other threads.

Actually destroying the world and killing at random is supreme ownage. Batshit insane evil <3 The best kind.

Kuja like others have said, manipulated the hell out of Brahne and was therefore indirectly responsible for how many deaths? And pretty much the destruction of another planet? Plus the 'poetic evil' comment was spot on <3


Sephiroth? Meh. He's okay. I could take him or leave him. He didn't actually do very much besides destroy a town, and kill a defenseless woman with her back turned.

Ultimecia shouldn't even be in this conversation. She gives a bad name to female villians everywhere xD
 
Nikkolas said:
...just no. If they've said that, then they've reach a level of retardedness that is cosmic in scale. But I really doubt they've said that. Can you provide the quote or a source?

Because Cloud of Darkness, Zeromus, Neo-EXdeath, Kefka, Kuja, Yu Yevon/Sin, Lavos, Id, Grahf, Deus...they're all stronger than Sephiroth ever was. And there's so many more Square villains that make Seph look like a chump.
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Sorry to dissapoint you but none of the above are stronger than AC Seph. He is the ultimate being in the movie being able to summon and wield at will the corrupted lifestream which if he infused to one of the ppl you mentioned they would die of Geostigma right that moment. As for the statement I'll look for the link and bring it up as soon as possible.

Grand_Lethal said:
I've heard that in Kingdom Hearts that Kuja is pretty insane in terms of power, but if you compare his power in Final Fantasy to that of other villains, he just doesn't compare.

He was supposedly uber strong in Advent Children. Now, if he's so strong, why was he only in the film for a whole seven minutes, tops?
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ROFL. This is plain STUPID, lethal. You're actually saying that because he was in the movie for 7 mins he's not strong? ROFL. You mean that Kadaj or Yazoo or Loz or Tifa or Cait Sith are stronger than Seph because they are in the movie more? LMAO. Sephiroth was in the movie that little to give the fans the anticipation of the final battle. And as for his kingdom hearts appearance this is dumb too. He isn't nearly as powerful as he is in AC. In KH he is just the embodiment of Cloud's darkness more like a ghost or sumthin'. Lol you can't compare KH's FF cameos to their real FF characters 'cause they are nothing alike. They're totally different chars with their name and appearance their only similarity. Duh...
 
I would have to say Kuja is the best out of all of them. Why? Because he was actually powerful. He kinda had a reason to do what he did. And he has the best magics. He's also the best dragqueen FF ever made lol
 
Sorry to dissapoint you but none of the above are stronger than AC Seph. He is the ultimate being in the movie being able to summon and wield at will the corrupted lifestream which if he infused to one of the ppl you mentioned they would die of Geostigma right that moment. As for the statement I'll look for the link and bring it up as soon as possible.
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...die of Geostigma? Lavos is what Sephiroth wants to be in Advent Children. He travels to a planet, hibernates and then takes it over. He is far beyond Sephiroth's power to do anything to.

Cloud of Darkness is an actual deity...I fail to see Geostigma doing anything.
Zeromus was the incarnation of all of Zemus' hatred. NOTHING with evil in it could hurt him.

Neo Exdeath was one with The Void, a source of cosmic energy. He basically made all this energy sentient and with it, threatened all existence. Sephiroth can not give Geostigma to that.

Kefka is invulnerable as long as he has the Goddess Statues around him... Can make a barrier Seph couldn't penetrate.

Kuja destroys the Planet... No more corrupted Lifestream.

Yu Yevon doesn't even have a body.... So, that ain't gonna work.

Id could destroy cities while his body and powes were limited. He moved so fast, giant mechs were unable to even mount a resistance as he demolished them with one punch.

Grahf has been possessing bodies for 500 years... If his host body dies of Geostigma, he finds a new one and then destroys Sephiroth.

Deus is a giant bio-weapon powered by the Zohar Modifier which is an infinite source of power. It once destroyed a planet. Sephiroth can't infect that.
 
TheWiseKing, you have just managed to make my day.

"lrn2befair!"... That. Was. Priceless.He mentioned the strengths of each villain that the games manage to show, but you give him the best response ever. "ROFL", "I lol'd" and "Sephy is better". The amount of evidence you've given is astounding, how could you possibly have bias? EVERY villain is in your sig!

All sarcasm aside, It depends. If Ultimecia gets enough time for "Time Kompression" it's an insta-win, if Kefka had an FMV sequence he'd have a chance, but as far as speed killing, I'd put money on Trance Kuja. If it's normal Kija then I'd bet on kefka.
 
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