S'alright, we all have those moments at some point.
I prefer to question religions and learn more things about them by doing so.
What if the end of the world was just tomorrow?
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S'alright, we all have those moments at some point.
I prefer to question religions and learn more things about them by doing so.
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Dont know what ill do but i would sure be scared. Might catch a rocket trip to a different planet lol
That particular part of my post was a pun.
He wouldn't, so we are then left with three options to take from that:Godspeed said:
1) God does not exist
2) God did not create the Universe
3) God is not omnipotent and is therefore lied about in several texts.
Take your pick.
Number 3, as my gods aren't.
I suppose I should have taken "other Gods" into consideration, but for clarification, I was talking about the Christian God.
Or he's just like a bored kid playing Age of Empires or some game when you create your own world, and then enjoys destroying it when he's fed up playing.
I think you could add on some things to the list because how you stated it was awkward: "If he wouldn't." That signifies that if the Christian God would not destroy his own creation, then he is truly a loving and merciful God or he is a distant God. Another one could be that he is not distant but rather not intervene in human affairs.
The list would go on.
But let us not be naysayers of if the world will end because even the scientific community (forgot which one exactly) have detected and spotted an asteroid or so and has calculated its trajectory. They believe that this might be the "killer asteroid" to destroy all life on earth just like what took place for the dinosaurs. The scientific community has calculated a year around 2020-2030 or so.
Even so, there has even been rumors of WWIII taking place very shortly. Many have speculated that WWIII willl start from the Middle East and/or from Chinese aggression against Taiwan where the U.S. would be involved. Though many have also speculated that the U.S. will not fare well.
The list would go on.
But let us not be naysayers of if the world will end because even the scientific community (forgot which one exactly) have detected and spotted an asteroid or so and has calculated its trajectory. They believe that this might be the "killer asteroid" to destroy all life on earth just like what took place for the dinosaurs. The scientific community has calculated a year around 2020-2030 or so.
Even so, there has even been rumors of WWIII taking place very shortly. Many have speculated that WWIII willl start from the Middle East and/or from Chinese aggression against Taiwan where the U.S. would be involved. Though many have also speculated that the U.S. will not fare well.
But if disasters struck, then this alleged omnipotent God must have created it, seeing as he created everything. If he did not create everything, then the Bible lies. What else does it lie about? If he did create it, then he is not all loving - why kill his own 'children'?
There's been tension between those two nations for a while now, it's not a recent thing.
*blows whistle*
Or, you have the fourth option, that God has never wanted to and therefore won't destroy the world, and that trying to use a hypothetical situation as proof that God does not exist is unfair and biased against religion.
How does a perfectly valid thread about a doomsday scenario degrade into this?
Well, you could tack on other questions too. If he was going to destroy us, why didn't he do it sooner and let us, humanity, lived as long as we have?
That last question is always an interesting one. Did you know that even Christian Theologians do not comprehend why such a loving God would destroy His own creation. Personally I find it amusing myself though comical in a way. It seems that these theologians do not understand one simple thing and that is that if God does not step in some point in time, we, humanity, will basically kill each other off the face of this world.
It has been stated by military experts and analysts that if humanity continue to wage war at this increasing rate, we will destroy each other. The solution that they had come up with was a very interesting yet unique idea. To somehow unite the people of the world as one through war. What did you expect from military experts and analysts? Solving everything through war. But I applauded them because they saw that color was just an illusion.
If what these people say is true, which must be true due to nuclear weaponry, humanity will one day create a very destructive weapons of mass destruction. If many thought nuclear weapon was bad, you have not seen anything else. I personally believe that biological warfare will be the next big culprit. If something like HIV and SARS could become a global phenomena, then what about the spread of an even worse disease? Remember that? It was spread through people who traveled on airlines and such to other regions of the world. Think how fast a really contagious and virulent disease can spread with 24 hours through the people that travel by air? Very quickly wouldn't it. A lot of people would die after the first 72 hours. More so afterward.
Also, global environmental changes. We can no longer ignore what we have done onto the world. Due to our ignorance and great arrogance, the earth is starting to change little by little. Even through these little changes, it have great detrimental affects upon the more sensitive micro-ecosystems. Did you know that ocean dead zones are becoming more common place. What used to be was that a dead zone would recover within a set time period and this cycle would repeat itself. Yes, there are natural reoccurring dead zones but now there are permanent dead zones though few. Though maybe long-term dead zones would be a much better term to use. This will have profound affect upon our ocean ecosystems.
As most of us have learned in school, the ecosystems has a cycle of life. Take one part out and the whole thing crumbles. Whatever we have started, it must be resolved soon or else things are going to get much worse. An example of this could be global warming. If the polar ice caps melts, many sea coast cities will be underwater and other low-lying land will also be submerged in water. Not only that but temperature sensitive creatures will die or mutate into something else. These changes might be more dangerous than beneficial.
Since no one can actually prove anything with a hard fact in topics such as this, there's nothing we can do, besides hypothesise.
Or his own creations will destroy us. He didn't step in to the Tsunami the other year. He doesn't stop earthquakes. He doesn't stop eruptions. He doesn't stop Hurricanes. He doesn't stop accidents (i.e. explosions, meltdowns), he doesn't stop car-crashes. Why create these things in the first place? There's no physical way to stop them (other than the final two, I suppose) or fight them. Why create something that has no benefit to us?Juke said:
God doesn't create these things, Satan is the evil one who does apparently.
Who knows why 'god' does these things, why do we kill our fellow humans in war or on the streets?
Alot of bad things happen which cannot be explained.
well if anything like what's been said happens theres not alot you as an individual can do but sit there and take it like a good whippin boy and me i' take each day as it comes so if it happens it happens nothin can be done why try fight it 
So then where did Satan come from? God allegedly created everything, did he not?
Try reading about it.
Satan was originally an angel in heaven but he was cast out because he wanted to be god basically.
God didn't create Satan for him to become evil.
He created things at the begining, and left the rest upto human nature.
He did not create everything, you're taking the term everything too literally. he created everything to begin the world as we know it.
I don't believe that but that's how it goes down for Christians anyway
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Riku, you seem to be getting off topic here? If you want, we could start another topic about all of this. Maybe I'll start it. It would be interesting to see what people have to say.
Gray Fox, wouldn't you try to prepare? If it those things or at least one of those things took place the next day, how would you feel the day after that? Would you rush to the local supermarket to buy all of the necessary supplies? I'm sure by then, all the stores would be ransacked or closed because everyone bought all the supplies the day before?
Even if you can't prepare physically, wouldn't you want to at least have a bit of survival knowledge?
Gray Fox, wouldn't you try to prepare? If it those things or at least one of those things took place the next day, how would you feel the day after that? Would you rush to the local supermarket to buy all of the necessary supplies? I'm sure by then, all the stores would be ransacked or closed because everyone bought all the supplies the day before?
Even if you can't prepare physically, wouldn't you want to at least have a bit of survival knowledge?
This was posted in the Religious Debate forum, naturally, someone would have to start off something about God. It's still in reference to the end of the world.
It is in the Religious Debate Forum but what you seem to be getting at is going off topic because you seem be steering this topic into a whole existence of God or more specifically the God of the Bible. The topic is, "What if the End of the World was just Tomorrow" and I listed a bunch of "what if" scenarios.
Now, it would be on topic if you wanted to discuss Biblical eschatology and so forth such as why God is doing so and what permits God to do such things to even what He has created. And we could explore such things.
I've looked into other threads and there seems to be enough "Does God really exist and proof of existence" threads already. There doesn't need to be one more added into the fray.
At the very beginning, it was mentioned that people would rather pray to God than do whatever else they can. I believe they first "steered" it into this frame of debate. Everything I've mentioned here refers back to the question of what you would do. Take my word for it, if I was having a rant over religion, you'd be quoting and replying to much more.
It's never ventured from the original topic, there's just a new focus. That example you've just given? That's exactly what the focus has been for the last while ^
Too right. Now, if you'd kindly stop psuedo-modding, we can all get back to this topic which we've allegedly steered away from, agreed?