Jdeadevil
Blue Mage
Is that what you said to your ex girlfriend when she told you she hated the game too?
What is a "true" or "real" Final Fantasy
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Is that what you said to your ex girlfriend when she told you she hated the game too?
...I think I've grown dumber from reading this thread. What is this, the school playground?
Anywho, I was about to do one of my usual long rambling posts, but then I realised that I don't have to.
I don't have this same sentiment as some people do that Final Fantasy MUST conform to X or Y, or go back to some vaguely defined roots. I'm not about to go around calling the newer games imposters or anything because that's not the problem I have with them. The problem with them is simple in my opinion, they're either awful or barely mediocre.
As long as they don't pull a Front Mission: Evolved and completely change the genre of a mainline game, I'm letting them do whatever the heck they want with the IP. I've decided, for good or bad, I would generally prefer to see something bold and different, albeit flawed and unrefined, than something that though very competently put together, takes few risks and has a danger of being a very samey, pedestrian experience.
The dude melts into a pool of mercury for some reason, and then gets shot to death by a few ordinary rounds as that bloody big Orphan sword thingy. I was awed by how underwhelming it was, actually.
I've seen more rousing deaths of cattle in a slaughterhouse.
Anywho, I was about to do one of my usual long rambling posts, but then I realised that I don't have to.
I don't have this same sentiment as some people do that Final Fantasy MUST conform to X or Y, or go back to some vaguely defined roots. I'm not about to go around calling the newer games imposters or anything because that's not the problem I have with them. The problem with them is simple in my opinion, they're either awful or barely mediocre.
As long as they don't pull a Front Mission: Evolved and completely change the genre of a mainline game, I'm letting them do whatever the heck they want with the IP. I've decided, for good or bad, I would generally prefer to see something bold and different, albeit flawed and unrefined, than something that though very competently put together, takes few risks and has a danger of being a very samey, pedestrian experience.
The dude melts into a pool of mercury for some reason, and then gets shot to death by a few ordinary rounds as that bloody big Orphan sword thingy. I was awed by how underwhelming it was, actually.
I've seen more rousing deaths of cattle in a slaughterhouse.
Jdeadevil
Blue Mage
I get tempted to retaliate, it's just a thing. I get uncomfortable if I don't say anything.
Ultimaja
Banned
Lol, what?
Some of you take things way too seriously. I was simply contrasting my fascination, if you want to think I was aiming at somebody, then that's all you.
Actually, I was thinking about somebody else, the guy who get's assassinated. Tend to forget Dysley is Dysley when he becomes Barthandelus.
You literally said that anyone who wasn't in awe of Dysley's death was a "sorely dull-minded prick". If there's anyone taking things too seriously it seems to be you...
Ultimaja
Banned
I was illustrating how a normal person could not find the death brilliant. Sort of like those people who would kill Paarthenax in Skyrim, or laugh at Aeris death in FFVII.
But what the fuck ever. I'm tired of your dumb bullshit, to be honest.
Mystical_Gaming
Her Story Begins When the Myth Ends
To me a 'true' final fantasy game is just a label. I am very new to the FF scene having only experienced the FFXIII trilogy. I know this and don't assume to 'know anything' about FF beyond those games so I speak with my very limited (and possibly ignorant) viewpoint. Many didn't welcome that game or me as a 'true' FF player and it didn't bother me. I was playign the game on the xbox 360 to make matter even more weird so I knew I was on the deep end for them lol. I was surprised though how defensive the FF community was about what made a FF game true. I was always under the impression any game with with the words 'Final Fantasy' would be generally accepted as it was offering a new journey and experience. Sure, some experiences may be less enjoyable than others but to me after completing my first final fantasy game I felt part of something. The game was unique from any other RPG I had played. The way the worlds were so unique and they made the unbelievable feel believable. I actually felt for and cared about most of the characters in the game. The time investment in a Final Fantasy game is like nothing I experienced before in a single player campaign style game. Most single player games (even RPG's) you can beat in 20 hours or less. Final Fantasy games I usually average 40+ hours and thats not even getting everything completed yet. After all those hours with the characters when the ending cutscene appears it's hard to not tear up and know it's truly over.
What I took away from that game was an experience I thoroughly enjoyed. One that can be shared with others as well. If I have to use the label 'true' then for me a true final fantasy game would be one that gives me a story, characters, world setting, and experience that leaves me in the end saying "man, that was quite the journey". Am I naive to think this? Perhaps. Will I denounce the time I spent playing in certain FF games as not 'true' because another player may not uphold the same game as I do? No, for me those memories and experiences in the games will always be something that I can enjoy and look back on.
I probably could say more but I got the gist of what I was thinking out in words.
What I took away from that game was an experience I thoroughly enjoyed. One that can be shared with others as well. If I have to use the label 'true' then for me a true final fantasy game would be one that gives me a story, characters, world setting, and experience that leaves me in the end saying "man, that was quite the journey". Am I naive to think this? Perhaps. Will I denounce the time I spent playing in certain FF games as not 'true' because another player may not uphold the same game as I do? No, for me those memories and experiences in the games will always be something that I can enjoy and look back on.
I probably could say more but I got the gist of what I was thinking out in words.
I agree with this. More than any battle style or whether you can control and airship or not, what makes Final Fantasy true is the way it makes you feel when you're playing it. They feel like you're in a fantastical world and yet somehow keep things real at the same time, and there's always a journey for the characters and the storyline and you feel like you're really experiencing a world. Sure, some people like some of the games more than others, and some people dislike certain games in the series, but I don't think liking or disliking something makes it more or less a Final Fantasy, and I don't think the game mechanics matter either, Final Fantasy games are about giving players an immersive experience in this world with these characters.
Mystical_Gaming
Her Story Begins When the Myth Ends
Yes, for me it's more about that experience than the actual overriding game mechanics that should or should not be implemented. Sure, good game mechanics can (and usually do) build upon a game's enjoyment and immerse level but if the same exact standards have to be used over and over again wouldn't things get a little too stale? I'm not really talking about having to do complete overhauls in each series of a game but rather if something does get changed as long as I am personally enjoying the world they created then it's a win for me. I guess I am more forgiving when it comes to changes in games than others can be and after you've played a game series for so long and all of the sudden things change that can cause tension. I know this all to well in games like Halo. I started playing that series from the beginning and after Halo 3 they broke away from the traditional arena shooter. I didn't like the changes but for me to say to someone else "you aren't playing 'true' Halo would be wrong. I try to see that in the same sense with why so many disliked FFXIII and may not consider it true. It was like the Halo Reach/Halo 4 of that series. Very different and while it had the same title on the box cover things were quite unique.
To me a true final fantasy is an exciting adventure and an immersive story. FF13 and beyond have been massive letdowns. i like to forget reality for a few hours when I play a FF, and those titles just don't do it anymore. Maybe I'm getting to old...
Black_Dragon
Overlord
Id say 1 all the way to 10 are considered true, each had a good story and they're own ....Uniqueness both in battle, characters and story.
oh and the up and coming 15 too, that looks pretty good i hope it can exceed everyone's expectations of it.
oh and the up and coming 15 too, that looks pretty good i hope it can exceed everyone's expectations of it.
ff1-10, 12, 14 but not 11 and 13.
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