What makes FFVI one of the best in the series?

[Sora_lion_heart]

seriously

I liked Final Fantasy VI cause the story was fasinating and game play was fun. Having everyone able to learn every spell in the game was a nice highlight. Also each Character (like 15) had different skills to add to stradgy. It was cool and Kefka was a terrific terrible villian. He had no heart. Espers were used like never before in the series. which made them worth liking. Also I liked the double relic thing. Like in ten-two you can equip two accessories. love ribbon/terra elemental or you know genji/offering/Atma/high Hp.

 

[Misty]

There is no such thing. People cannot badmouth FF6 because it is a good game. That is a fact. If you think otherwise then you're wrong. It's not an opinion that FF6 is bad, it's a damn lie.

Drop it, seriously. YES, there IS such a thing. YES, they can badmouth it, because, guess what? EVERY GAME HAS FAULTS. Oo, so someone is wrong eh? It IS an opinion, not a lie.

You think Ifrit is just, making all this up and secretly likes the game? Please, just get it into your head, that the game is not a glorious 100% perfected piece of programming to everyone. Your holier then thou attitude is really uncalled for, and I ask that you'll be respectful of other people's opinions in the future, otherwise if I catch you being rude, I'll issue you with a warning.

 

[DawnThrone]

FFVI is a very wide, deep and in-depth story. There is so much character development in this story, that everyone is an important character. There is actually two parts of the story in this game, one in the world before the world of ruin, and the other is the world of ruin itself making FFVI unique. The story is sad, touching and good in equal parts which makes us want to know what happens next. We also get pretty attached to the characters. Terra is mysterious and sad, but she has such a good personality despite being confused and lost. The way she yearns for love, forgiveness and trust makes her an interesting character. She never truly lost hope for a better world and for love. Celes, on the otherhand, has such a great personality and a really important role in the game. Her scenes are utterly memorable, and is one of the trademark scenes of FFVI. Locke, and his love for Rachel, and then for Celes is so moving. His personality is interesting, and we come to like his character.Edgar, Sabin,Cyan, Setzer and the rest also have their respective stories which are very deep, making this game one of my favourites in the ff series.

 

[Dionysos]

There is no such thing. People cannot badmouth FF6 because it is a good game. That is a fact. If you think otherwise then you're wrong. It's not an opinion that FF6 is bad, it's a damn lie.

While I agree that FF6 is a brilliant game and can't see many flaws with it myself (probably my favourite or at least joining with FF7), and can't see how other people can, they do. Peoples minds work differently and see different things while playing games. Different things appeal to different people and some people see things in a different light to other people, looking beyond the surface, or perhaps something means something different to a different person.
Basically, no matter how wrong it may seem, people are entitled to their own opinion, even if I think it is a tad extreme to claim it as one of the worst .

I'm sure I have people fuming with anger and confusion when I state why I mostly dislike and still have not finished FF12, as I know a lot of people love that game. People work differently and get totally different experiences out of the same game some times. It's odd, but it happens.

So therefore if people feel that they can badmouth FF6 it isn't a lie in their eyes, they probably actually feel what they say, even if we might not agree with it.

 

[Atma]

Drop it, seriously. YES, there IS such a thing. YES, they can badmouth it, because, guess what? EVERY GAME HAS FAULTS. Oo, so someone is wrong eh? It IS an opinion, not a lie.

You think Ifrit is just, making all this up and secretly likes the game? Please, just get it into your head, that the game is not a glorious 100% perfected piece of programming to everyone. Your holier then thou attitude is really uncalled for, and I ask that you'll be respectful of other people's opinions in the future, otherwise if I catch you being rude, I'll issue you with a warning.

I'm pretty sure Ifrit was just saying it to prove me wrong. He can't actually think that about the game. I know the game has faults but to call the game bad or horrible because you think so is downright injustice. There is no such thing as a perfect game but the fact of the matter is that FF6 is a great game, no matter what anybody thinks. That fact will always remain true.
What is a holier than thou attitude? My attitude has nothing to do with anything. But if you must know, I don't think much of people. I don't belittle anyone...I speak only the truth. Please don't bother me with your implications.

 

[Serah]

You speak only the truth by saying that FFVI is amazing BUT THAT IS YOUR OPINION. Atma, if you don't drop it, your posts will be deleted and you WILL receive an infraction for continuing on with this and eventually a suspension. Allow people to have their own opinions and stop trying to force yours on others. If people think the game sucks, they think it sucks and there is no changing their minds no matter how strongly you or they feel.

 

[Daenerys]

He can't actually think that about the game.

He can, actually. It's amazing isn't it. It's called an opinion.

Henry VIII is dead - Fact.
Final Fantasy VI is a great game - Opinion.

Just because someone dislikes things that you like, doesn't mean they can't think that way - they can. Not everyone can like the same thing, some people love FFVI, others dislike it. To those who like it, it's a great game, for those that do not, it isn't.

Now, I'd like to ask to get this thread back on topic, please. Atma, if you have anything to say back to me or anyone else, PM them or, like Mandi said, the post will be deleted.

 

[Atma]

You speak only the truth by saying that FFVI is amazing BUT THAT IS YOUR OPINION. Atma, if you don't drop it, your posts will be deleted and you WILL receive an infraction for continuing on with this and eventually a suspension. Allow people to have their own opinions and stop trying to force yours on others. If people think the game sucks, they think it sucks and there is no changing their minds no matter how strongly you or they feel.

I'm not forcing my opinions on others. Please don't confuse the facts. I'm telling a truth: FF6 is a good game and cannot be badmouthed. People can think what they like but it won't be a fact. I'm not forcing my opinions on others, rather, you people are forcing your opinions on me.

 

[Serah]

That's it. I hope you enjoy your infraction, Atma. You just don't know when to quit do you?

 

[Busta]

There is no such thing. People cannot badmouth FF6 because it is a good game. That is a fact. If you think otherwise then you're wrong. It's not an opinion that FF6 is bad, it's a damn lie.

FFVI was a good game in my opinion. Characters, story, villains, and all.

My opinion of it was high because I had an enjoyable time playing it and all of the above appealed to me. The only problem I had with it was that the Espers were pointless to me. I'm sure some people found them very useful, which is good, but I hardly used them at all and would have liked a system better fitting for them.

FFVI is good, but that's just my opinion. My favorite game is FFX for numerous reasons, but if someone dislikes it, I accept it and try to see why they would say so. Maybe they didn't quite connect to the game like I did, or maybe they aren't to keen on the battle system, or enemies. FFVI could have the same said about it. Maybe someone does not like older graphics, or they could not connect to the characters as well as others.

We all have our likes and dislikes about games, people, and events in life. Not everyone is going to look the same to everybody; and those things that are great may be viewed by others as horrible. Look at Hitler. He felt his mass-murder of over 6 million people was absolutely the greatest idea ever; he was far from correct.

We all have our own opinions, likes, dislikes, and tendencies, and it's something that can't be forced on anyone. It's easier to state your peace, view others' replies and opinions as well, and accept the fact we're all different in our tastes.

 

[L]

There is no such thing. People cannot badmouth FF6 because it is a good game. That is a fact. If you think otherwise then you're wrong. It's not an opinion that FF6 is bad, it's a damn lie.

qft. you tell them damn nu-skool kids how it is!

lolololol

FF6 was a pretty good play imho.

the villian of FFVI was a downright shallow cunt with no motive. or something to that effect

and that's what made kefka epic sauce. He was the generic outline of what a villian is supposed to be.

Kefka doesn't need nunna that weak-ass shit up in his house like sephiroth, seymour, kuja, and... and... whoever the fuck else is a main antagonist, I guess. Plus he had this awesome faggot music for his theme, it was epic

Anyhow, I really did enjoy FFVI, and really don't see how anyone could say it was bad as a game. I didn't feel like it was too epic or too shit. It just kind of fit well imho.

But, people will have different opinions. Even though pizza is one of the best foods in the world, there are people who think it tastes like shit

 

[TheMixedHerb]

My opinion on FFVI is no different than any other really, I mean, I do think it is a great game, but I also know that a few people will dislike it, that's their opinion
I played VI for my first time not too long ago ( a few months back at most) and I still haven't got round to finishing it yet, got sidetracked, anyway, I think it's a great game, I love the Esper system and the customisation that you could do to your characters with it, and I think if I remember correctly it has the largest FF cast in history so far, if i'm wrong correct me.
So there was a lot of choice there, also, the ever evil Kefka, I love that guy xDD
He's just evil for the hell of it, not domination or whatever like the rest, he's just quite sadistic yet humorous xD
So yeah, overall I think VI is a great game and i'll definitley get round to finishing it >>
I just know i'll replay it for some reason anyway too.

 

[MagicGamma]

It's a great game - not a perfect one, but a great one nonetheless.

The characters were very well fleshed out, and it is almost like you could empathize with a bunch of pixels. If the first five games were basically short stories packaged along with an RPG rulebook, then this one would be the best for a novel.

What gets me though, is the fact that you have a ton of characters, each with their own schtick. Despite the fact that they did develop 12 of the fourteen characters well as individuals, Umaro and Gogo just stood there. And the fact that you had to split your party into three for the final dungeon meant that I had to bring characters I really didn't use up to that point(Strago, for one), only to see them be dead weights for the most part.

But Kefka makes up for it. A psychopath weakling who actually succeeds at

Spoiler

destroying the world as we know it

and probably reads Nietsche nightly is a very complex villain indeed.

 

[Lunatic Pandora]

I really liked this game. The character development is good (my personal favorite was Locke's and Celes') and there are memorable characters with nice backgrounds, not to mention touching moments like at the opera house. I love that song. Anyway Kefka is the most sadistic and cruel villain (also the best IMO) but you can't really hate him because he is also a bit of a comic relief. XD I really enjoyed playing it!

Also The Black Mages version of Dancing Mad kicks ass.

 

[Obdurate]

The main reason is the fact that it's no bullshit. By that I mean, seriously, very few other games would do what FFVI does about halfway through the game. It gets cripplingly depressing.

Then besides the normal things like gameplay, characters, music etc, I'd have to say... just the fact it's two players is nice.

 

[Prometheus]

Well since i never actually finished the game, it's kinda hard for me to say what makes it amazing, but the parts that i played (all the way to the last boss), were truly spectacular, from the characters to the gameplay, this game amazed me.

 

[Skeleton Cat]

Music wise, Dancing Mad and Magitek (one of my favourite songs now).

Game wise, cant say, I've never played it. Love the music though!!

 

[TrueSephiros]

To be truthful, Final Fantasy VI was my most heavily played FF game other then VII. Being a person who has played the FF games since they debuted in the late 1980's up until now. So I'll take a crack at breaking down this game for all of you.

A couple years back, I used to say that VI from a "storyline" standpoint didn't have any flaws. However, looking back at it now, and playing it through again in more recent times, this time though, reading and perceiving things more thoroughly I see as much flaws in it as I do with any other FF game.

VI is not as perfect as some people try to claim, however is any FF game perfect on any standard anyhow?

So here's my break down of some of the things that I did and didn't enjoy...

Music - First off, let me express this, VI has some of the most memorable, and beautiful pieces out of any FF game. Yes, I feel VII did it "slightly" better, however barely in my opinion. The VI Theme itself in my opinion is still the greatest main theme of all time period. How could you forget Celes Theme in VI, another great and powerful piece that even today still gives me goosebumps.

Cyan's Theme is also another incredible theme that I feel at times seems to fly under the radar. There was just, so many good themes coming off of VI that the Music in my opinion is one of the top-3 reasons why it is so memorable and one of the best of the series.

Storyline - As much as people would like to try and abstract VI's storyline. Let's be real here, it is without a doubt a very strong, powerful and solid storyline, however it is without question relatively straight forward, due to the fact that at the time it was geared towards a much younger audience at the time. This proves fact by the notion of how the characters were subbed into their comments and statements throughout the storyline. Some parts were so corny at times that I literally had to run through it as fast as I could. Some individual characters after breaking them down a bit, got annoying at times.

Such examples were that of Tina, because now I questioned motives like her personality throughout the game of VI. Her less then little distraught with the murdering of the espers, however what made me go banana's was her during the world of ruin. Her supposedly "I lost all my will to fight"...really? Did she just simply forget that Kefka was the single being that turned her into a war machine? The one who killed General Leo, killed her adoptive father at Gestahl, her extended family, ravaged the entire world into ruin and can potentially wipe out your new family on a whim?

Honestly, I used to say VI didn't have any emo characters, however I was wrong, again, when finally removing myself from my VI worship of the game, and seeing this game as whole. This is one of the things about Tina that completely drove me nuts. Considering out of any character within the VI group, she had the absolute highest motive to wanting to defeat Kefka, other then besides Cyan (who's family obviously was poisoned by Kefka directly).

Also, Kefka as an antagonist, my goodness, I understand some people like his character. However in just VI the game, he is by far one of the most one-dimensional and most boring antagonist ever from the FF series. To me, it's not about how much "power" you pack, but the storyline magnitude to your character. With no real motive, no real reason to why he's mentally distraught, just for the fact that he runs around getting swept away by the VI heroes before his Demi-God mode. It just made me laugh more then anything about his character within the game of VI.

If you actually take a look at his character development in VI the game, to like that of a saturday morning cartoon antagonist back in the 90's. You'll notice very little subtle differences in the depth of their characters, in fact they all closely resemble one another. Obviously Ultimania has shed more into his character, however just from VI the game, it was one of the weakest parts about the storyline itself.

The whole of the storyline itself is still powerful regardless of the circumstances. You still feel for characters like Locke who tries very desperately to save Rachel, or for Cyan and his family who was lost within the battle for Doma Castle.

The ending for VI was one of the best without a doubt, the music score and the displayment of the character names with a distinct item in relation to the character. Absolutely fabulous on any given level, so overall, I feel it was solid from this point. So even with all of it's flaws from a storyline/character standpoint, I still feel it delivered better then most other FF games.

Gameplay Mechanics - Now let's start to break down, and something that I've noticed, most of you didn't try to do, so I'll do my best here. I'm a person who usually plays the game through, maxing every character to their potential, while trying to experiment and break the mechanics of any FF game to it's core. Hence why I've made Tier List threads for a few FF games here before .

With that in mind, VI has a solid gameplay mechanic, nothing that is truly lame, nor anything that makes it stand out either. The uniqueness of each character having their own individual "skill" may sound nice to paper and maybe to some of you. However, more then half of them were useless unless you happened to be Edgar (Tools were phenomenal!), Gau (Lvl 3 magics at the beginning ='s pawned), Locke (Steal came in handy), Sabin (Only at the beginning to semi-mid part of the game, it becomes a joke later on), Terra (a much lesser extent), Celes (Runic).

While other characters like Shadow with their "throw" was rather pointless considering it wasn't all that effective anyhow, and by the time that they did become useful with the more "powerful items", you would already be dealing monster damage anyhow. So many of the characters usefulness with their individual skills were severely lacking, and don't try to prove that I'm wrong either.

Because why would you use Strago's for his skills over Edgars? Exactly my point, and although these flaws obviously are seen in other FF games, some of them cover them up better then VI did.

So from a gameplay battle system mechanics and what have you, it was mediocrity. There was no switching of the characters like in X to where you could get very strategical on this aspect, nor was there any super nearly unlimited customizable options like the VII Materia System, which to this very day was the greatest system Square ever implemented in any FF game period bar none.

Even though it may not have had that much uniqueness in it's gameplay, I still enjoyed it even now, because it's simplicity is also one of the key factors that I feel makes it fun. So to try and end, since I would love to write a 10-page essay breaking the game down even more.

That even 16 years after it's release and back in 1994 when I first played it in japanese not having a clue what was going on until I got a hold of the US release. I still regard it as one of the best, to me, Top-3, while VII and IX overall did it better.

 

[Chrono66]

I agree totally

You've hit the nail on the head, if anything its under rated, i am an rpg fanatic and of all the rpgs i have played this is one that really stands out as a truly entertaining world, the story, the sublime score is amazing,. the world of ruin will stick with me forever and i just fell in love with the art direction of the game, just loved it!!!!

Are you kidding? How has FFVI been OVER RATED? Whenever there's a discussion on the FF series in general, I rarely hear anyone talk about this game. Understandably the last thing on FFVI was that it was reformatted for the PS1 Anthology package years ago, so it's not the hot topic so to speak. It's only now when two characters from the game are featured in the Dissidia game does it get some attention again, but FFVI is far from being over-rated.

Argor251 summed it up far better that I could have but I personally enjoyed FFVI very much.

The story, the multiple characters that actually had a decent background done on them, the individual abilities that ensured that no one character was the ultimate character. The music was great as well. The way the Espers had an importance to the story and not just a simple battle system to utilize.

And a villain whose actually a villain. How do you not appreciate that?

Really, great stuff here

 

[Atma]

Thank you my fellow FF6 brethren for agreeing with me. As we all know, there is no such thing as a perfect game. Every game has its flaws (even though Chrono Trigger has very few). FF6 is a game that borders the threshold of fantasy and reality alike. The game cannot be called bad or mediocre. I understand there are people who think it sucks and they have right to think so. That's perfectly acceptable you know? But the fact is that FF6 is a great game. It's one FF's more precise titles.
This game does effectively what no other FF does: it brings about tales of legends. There are many old world and existentialist themes in it. Many significant events such as the war of the magi, which could be related and traced to the ancient Atlantian vs Lemurian war eons ago. The fact is that many of you simple gamers are unaware of it and that's why you don't see the value in the game. But there are many subliminal messages in the game....you just have to search deep and find out what they are. And it's despicable when you can only look at a game skin deep. Think outside the box, research, and conceptualize. That is when you can truly call yourself a real gamer. You see, when your eyes are open to the truth like mine are, you see everything in a different perspective. But yeah, let me wrap this up. Hollywood movie producers also gamble on knowing an ordeal amount of information and incorporate that into their movies and scripts. Very few people actually recognize the meaning of their clandestine works.

P.S.- FF7 also had ancient meanings behind it with Jenova and all. But that's all you won't find much with the game and that decreases its potentially important value by about 17%