What the duck??

Think about it guys..sure we could have had a lot more summons, but maybe with the way they planned Temples and such, there wouldn't have been a need for so many :gasp:

-remembers the FFVI summon list!-

Would have been nice to see Gaia though, all in 3d graphics :wacky:
 
They probably limited the number of Aeons because, unlike the previous games, this time Aeons were controllable. Instead of having just one animation sequence to make for each Summon, they had to make a whole range of animations for all of their moves.

Still, given the amount of symmetry there is in the game, it was somewhat disappointing that there was no Water Aeon.

All of the other patterns are there:
  • There are three spells for each element: regular, one that ends in 'a' and one that ends in 'ga'.
  • There are three items for each element - one that does weak damage, one medium, one strong. For water these are Fish Scale, Dragon Scale and Water Gem respectively.
  • You can teach Aeons the elemental spells: you use the 'weak' item to teach the regular spell, the medium item to teach the 'a' spell, and the strong item to teach the 'ga' spell.
  • Each element is associated with a 'Strike' property on weapons that makes that weapon elemental, and you can customise this property by using 4 of the 'weak' item. So, you customise Waterstrike with 4 Fish Scales.
  • Each element also has an associated 'Ward' property for armour, also customised with 4 of the 'weak' item. So you customise Water Ward with 4 Fish Scales.
  • Each element has 'Proof', 'SOS Nul' and 'Eater' abilities for armour. 'Proof' and 'SOS Nul' are customised with the medium item and 'Eater' is customised with 20 of the strong item. Waterproof, SOS NulTide and Water Eater all exist.
  • There's a 'Nul' spell for each element: NulBlaze, NulShock, NulFrost and NulTide.
  • But apart from Water, there's an Aeon and a Temple for each element
 
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Tidus? I don't think I understand what you are saying. You mean it's Tidus's fault that there isn't a water aeon? Or that Tidus is the water aeon?

Whichever it is, I don't think that I agree. Tidus being in the game would have no impact on the aeons whatsoever, I don't think. Because Tidus has nothing to do with the aeons.
 
No matter how short a message is, if it adds something to the discussion, it's not spam.

***SPOILERS AHEAD***

Now, while Tidus may not be a water aeon in the classic sense, he does at least partially qualify.

I forget the exact details, but it's a theory that's been posted numerous times on GameFAQs.

First off - the fact that he is an aeon (or rather, part of an aeon) is quite simple. Tidus is from Dream Zanarkand, which itself is an aeon summoned by Yu Yevon. I'm not going to explain how this works, it's very common knowledge and you can find proof in-game. This in turn proves Tidus is an aeon.

Now, the "water-type". True, he doesn't have water absorbtion (unless you give it to him, of course). However, his storyline weapon - the Brotherhood. What element is it? Water.

You'll also notice that out of all the characters, Tidus has the highest affinity with water - even more so than Wakka.

...yeah, there's a lot more to this theory, but I don't remember the rest off hand. I'll try and find the rest of the theory for you all.
 
...it added nothing to the discussion you posted ''Tidus'' people had no idea what you were on about, it was clearly spam, and that's why we ask that people elaborate on their posts, so people KNOW what you mean and so it DOES add to the discussion any further problems, please take it to pm
 
A water aeon hmmmm I do not think there is any use to one really because Cindy is useful already but I know she does her actions by herself but who cares? I think Final Fantasy X has a really nice selection of aeons and does not need a water type aeon.
 
Auron said:
...it added nothing to the discussion you posted ''Tidus'' people had no idea what you were on about, it was clearly spam, and that's why we ask that people elaborate on their posts, so people KNOW what you mean and so it DOES add to the discussion any further problems, please take it to pm
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People who already knew of this theory could perhaps fill in the details. People who don't were free to ask what I meant. It was relevant to the discussion, and not spam.

I suppose if someone asked how to beat Evrae Altana and I said "Two Phoenix Downs", it would be spam then because it's short? Despite the fact that it completely answers the question. The length of a message does not in any way determine whether or not it's spam. I could write a message longer than this that's purely spam if I wanted to, would it be okay just because it's long?


Anyway, back on topic: Yes, a water aeon would've been good. But would it be essential? Do keep in mind that aeons get no bonus for using their own element, and you can teach any aeon water spells.
 
killiancurse21 said:
People who already knew of this theory could perhaps fill in the details. People who don't were free to ask what I meant. It was relevant to the discussion, and not spam.

I suppose if someone asked how to beat Evrae Altana and I said "Two Phoenix Downs", it would be spam then because it's short? Despite the fact that it completely answers the question. The length of a message does not in any way determine whether or not it's spam. I could write a message longer than this that's purely spam if I wanted to, would it be okay just because it's long?
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It's not really up to other people to fill in the details though, it's really up to you to post details. You can't really post a one-word answer in a thread and expect people to know what you're talking about, unless it's self-explanatory - such as your example of using two phoenix downs to defeat Evrae Altana.

So, yeah. If it makes sense to make a short post, then obviously, it's allowed and not considered as spam. However, if it makes no sense at all to most other people, then you really do need to elaborate ^^

Although, if you wish to continue discussing this issue, then by all means, please PM either myself or Auron, but I think I've tried to resolve and explain this particular issue as best as I can ^^;
 
Yes, you can teach any aeon a water spell but you can teach any aeon a fire, lightning, and ice spell as well. So, therefore you are stating we don't need Ifrit, Shiva, or Ixion?

I think a water summon would've been quite nice actually. Having all the elements and the summons to match. Leviathan would have been a great choice.

As for your theory on Tidus being the water element we needed....i just don't see it. Plus, we are talking of aeons. I can equip Auron with a fire type weapon and that does not make him the replacement of Ifrit. =/
 
Yes, but there are a few differences. The most obvious one being that Tidus is certianly an aeon, at least in storyline terms. The second being that it's not a custom or dropped weapon, but his storyline-relevant and unloseable, non-optional weapon.
 
I was discussing this with a friend earlier. In previous FF games, summons have always taken the form of a brief (mostly :p) animation, whereas in FFX, summons joined the party, and took their place on the field. Perhaps Square felt Leviathan would look a little silly if it were summoned, only to sit there right in the middle of Bikanel Island, say.

Although, they could have easily developed a water Aeon which wasn't a "fish". They introduced more than enough new Aeons in FFX, so it's not like they couldn't have developed a water one.
 
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