Would you trade your own reality for your current own?

[Rockman X]

Rockman no need to get offensive. Even I would understand, a kid's site ? You are still using the understanding of apples to apples, I am purposing a reality of apples from now and here to oranges there in the alternative .

Well I'm hoping you would understand a kid's site, you've always had issues understanding basic concept and accepting other persons' arguments.

Apples to oranges, not apples. You do not need sleep if you have advanced programming or body changes to not need it....you can function differently in different reality .

Um...no, I don't need to sleep if I have advanced "programming" or body alterations that make it unnecessary...but I'm not a robot. Seeing as how all animals need sleep, humans included, it's questionable whether we'd even be able to function properly in a different reality. What's to say the laws of our nature would change with entrance to the other reality? They might just stay as they are. You can't say we would function differently in a different reality.

If you wanna talk apples an oranges, I can make another similarly juvenile comparison. Take a shark, put it on land. The shark's reality is the ocean, that's all it knows. Just because you put it on land (i.e. a different "reality") doesn't mean it's going to function differently. Wow, my simple childish analogies work better than yours.

It is by far a lack of understanding of my own reality, not was this thread originally meant to battle such a thing, it was to choose between this reality and another plain and simple via a few extra details.

A lack of understanding is right. There is no choosing between this reality and "another" one. Regardless of whether or not other realities exist, this is the reality we are relegated to so you might as well learn to deal with it.

Who says life must end after death, but this is not about that. Just because you did does not mean reality does . I never meant to suggest that . Ghosts whatever....heaven

Definition taken from Merriam-Webster:

1 a: the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from a dead body
b: a principle or force that is considered to underlie the distinctive quality of animate beings
c: an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction
2 a: the sequence of physical and mental experiences that make up the existence of an individual
b: one or more aspects of the process of living <sex life of the frog>

So um, basic biology says that life ends after death.

There are many things science is yet to explain and maybe can not .

Quite true, but it can explain enough to prove you wrong every single time.

I am going to watch a movie with family I have to cut back on the net haha.

Please do cut back on the internet. And maybe take some science classes while you're at it.

 

[Donald Trump]

Who says life must end after death, but this is not about that. Just because you did does not mean reality does . I never meant to suggest that . Ghosts whatever....heaven

So this thread is really just saying ghosts can exist and reality is a lie because we can't prove other wise?
I'm an orange and I have staplers for fingers.
You can't prove that I am wrong so therefore you have to accept that I am an orange.

Apples to oranges, not apples. You do not need sleep if you have advanced programming or body changes to not need it....you can function differently in different reality .

Wrong, you die if you don't sleep. The longest someone stayed awake for was about 11 days, then he died.
Like VR said, we are humans not robots.
We can get used to not sleeping very much, however that comes with negative side effects.

Philosophy is creative thinking, outside the box thinking. You shun me, and jab at me for talking about creation , and purpose and whatever it is that I am on about and yet you read magical cards and put faith into those cards and expect me to take you seriously ?

We aren't talking about philosophy in general, but Solipsism, which is a philosophy. Very big difference there.

 

[Korytco]

Just to clear up a few things:

Science does not "prove" that reality exists, but assumes that what we discover and learn about the real world is real. It doesn't concern itself with asking whether or not what we are observing is real, only with what the properties of the natural world as far as we can observe are. Whether or not reality is "real" is a philosophical question, but because there is no evidence, the philosophy is inconclusive. But actually, that's true for most philosophies. It's just stuff that people conjecture and think about, but in the end, it's nowhere near as rigorous as a mathematical proof or as consistent as a scientific study; all you have to do is imagine something, and then it's philosophy.

This is how I feel as well but I am no where near as fluent and brilliant to express it so clearly. Well for the most part, I do not do math proofs , I do dab into science time to time.

LOL I can not express myself , I think some people understand what , where I am going with this. How I think even but I can not clearly express it so , I guess I will just stop posting these threads. I do need to cut back on the net anyways.


In a different reality why would you have to be the same at all ? I mean you can easily see ways with modifications to the body where you would not be as human as before you would just precieve you were human . Perhaps in another reality you would be a robot in "the real world" but stimulated to beleive you were a human in an alternative . EAsy solution to your eye wide wonder. Perhaps in the "real world" beyond this one , if there is one you are a severed alien head hooked up to a computer.

You really do not know .

I know you can not chose realities my god Im not brilliant but I think you are under assuming common sense as we know it.

Its a make believe sinceario ....

 

[Rockman X]

I'm an orange and I have staplers for fingers.
You can't prove that I am wrong so therefore you have to accept that I am an orange.

That made me lol

We can get used to not sleeping very much, however that comes with negative side effects.

There was actually something on TV about a month ago about that, some Brits did a sleep study on people and deprived them of sleep for about a week to see what it would do to them and just what the body needed it for. They'd give them a few hours of sleep, or just prevent them from going into REM. After a few days, some of the people were actually in a pre-diabetic state.

I do dab into science time to time.

I find that hard to believe.

LOL I can not express myself , I think some people understand what , where I am going with this. How I think even but I can not clearly express it so , I guess I will just stop posting these threads. I do need to cut back on the net anyways.

Thank god, please do stop. But you know, people would have an easier time understanding you if you were grammatically correct. I think I told you that once before and you just bawwed about it. I'm not trying to be critical either, I'm just pointing out that you have appalling grammar, and you would be able to get your point across much better and avoid confusion if you studied it a little.

In a different reality why would you have to be the same at all ? I mean you can easily see ways with modifications to the body where you would not be as human as before you would just precieve you were human .

Hi. I'm a Stalker.

The Combine removed my personality and replaced it with their programming, I have nanomachines implanted in my skin, most of my organs, muscle and body fat have been removed, my digestive system has also been removed and all I need to survive on is saline solution injections.

I'm also not real.

Perhaps in another reality you would be a robot in "the real world" but stimulated to beleive you were a human in an alternative . EAsy solution to your eye wide wonder. Perhaps in the "real world" beyond this one , if there is one you are a severed alien head hooked up to a computer.

lolwut, I'm a severed alien head? Right. And bigfoot is real too.

You really do not know .

Nor do you. This is all ludicrous speculation that only children and writers of Weekly World News buy into. No sensible person would believe this.

I know you can not chose realities my god Im not brilliant but I think you are under assuming common sense as we know it.

Underassuming common sense? What? Common sense tells me this is stupid.

Its a make believe sinceario ....

Then quit trying to pass it off as a distinct possibility and acting like we live in the Matrix.

 

[Onusha]

Hi. I'm a Stalker.

The Combine removed my personality and replaced it with their programming, I have nanomachines implanted in my skin, most of my organs, muscle and body fat have been removed, my digestive system has also been removed and all I need to survive on is saline solution injections.

I'm also not real.

I laughed so much.

You really do not know .

Korytco, are you on bloody crack? There's philosophy and there's WOAH MAN I'M LIKE A PERSON BUT MAYBE I'M NOT A PERSON BUT A TOASTER WITH LEGS IN A MAGICAL PIXIE LAND BECAUSE THIS IS TOTALLY NOT REALLY REAL REALITIES. WOAH MAN THAT'S SO DEEP MAN.

 

[Sephiroth Crescent]

Somebody once said "I think therefore I exist", I forget who it was, but I think it was Voltair.

Now...I don't buy into the idea that everything around me is an illusion, and that some ethereal force is controlling mah thoughts! I don't have any evidence to prove that the world as we know it isn't an illusion, but it wouldn't make alot of sense. But then again alot of things dont make sense like...

1. How come psychics don't win the lottery?
2. If drinking and driving is illegal then why do bars have parking spaces?
3. Do vegitarians eat animal crackers?

Note: Those are all jokes

Like Karl pointed out science hasn't proven Soliphism wrong, but it has done a good job explaining why things are the way they are. Now, if our life is indeed like the matrix, then...how do we know whats truly real?

Now...This makes more sense, OP(sorry I forget your name >.>) perhaps when we die and go to meet our maker we can perceive this as your idea of Soliphism.

Now going back on topic, I dont see why I'd trade my reality. Sure sometimes I wish things could be better, but its those things that make you feel alive, and like your human. Like Rockman said no matter how hard I imagine something that doesn't make it real. If I was the man who had everything then...why be alive? The desire of wanting something is what keeps you going in life, you take that away, and life becomes boring. Sorry but I don't buy into your ideas because I find them rather silly, but I won't insult them because they are YOUR ideas.


- Kuja

 

[Korytco]

Now going back on topic, I dont see why I'd trade my reality. Sure sometimes I wish things could be better, but its those things that make you feel alive, and like your human. Like Rockman said no matter how hard I imagine something that doesn't make it real. If I was the man who had everything then...why be alive? The desire of wanting something is what keeps you going in life, you take that away, and life becomes boring. Sorry but I don't buy into your ideas because I find them rather silly, but I won't insult them because they are YOUR ideas.


- Kuja

Notice you yourself say its going back on topic. Notice the hater masters at work derailing the hell out of a thread. That would have been a perfect response as edited , thank you. If anyone is capable of making such a fantastic response please join in. Im going swimming.

 

[Sephiroth Crescent]

Notice you yourself say its going back on topic. Notice the hater masters at work derailing the hell out of a thread. That would have been a perfect response as edited , thank you. If anyone is capable of making such a fantastic responses please join in. Im going swimming.

I like to be fair, and accepting of all opinions. But I find some of the stuff your saying to be a bit extraneous to say in the least, but that doesn't mean its not in the realm of possibility.

In a different reality why would you have to be the same at all ? I mean you can easily see ways with modifications to the body where you would not be as human as before you would just precieve you were human . Perhaps in another reality you would be a robot in "the real world" but stimulated to beleive you were a human in an alternative . EAsy solution to your eye wide wonder. Perhaps in the "real world" beyond this one , if there is one you are a severed alien head hooked up to a computer

But...this doesn't make sense. Under that assumption were all lifeless figures heavily reliant on machines, or as you put it just machines. What purpose does this serve exactly? Why would we all be lifeless figures that need to be bound to some kind of machine that puts us in an artificial world? Better yet if the world around us isn't real, are you in theory saying when we die, that we return to our "real place". Now if this is true, then how come nobody remembers?

I too am a philosophical person, But not in this way, someday I hope to find out lifesmost important question's answers like what is the meaning of life. As of now im convinced Lifes meaning is to end and to start again. Life's only meaning is the one you give it.

Anyway I went a bit off-topic there, But yeah...

- Kuja

 

[Rockman X]

Notice you yourself say its going back on topic. Notice the hater masters at work derailing the hell out of a thread. That would have been a perfect response as edited , thank you. If anyone is capable of making such a fantastic response please join in. Im going swimming.

See, this is why people hate debating with you. Anyone disagrees with you and you start flaming them and calling them "hater masters" and things of that nature. Nobody has derailed this thread either, it's still on your topic of realities outside reality.

But...this doesn't make sense. Under that assumption were all lifeless figures heavily reliant on machines, or as you put it just machines. What purpose does this serve exactly? Why would we all be lifeless figures that need to be bound to some kind of machine that puts us in an artificial world? Better yet if the world around us isn't real, are you in theory saying when we die, that we return to our "real place". Now if this is true, then how come nobody remembers?

Going by his theory we wouldn't have any purpose at all, and life itself would be entirely pointless since everything was a lie. This is the kinda stuff that happens in comic book crossovers, not real life. There ARE extra dimensions and layers according to string theory, but there's no evidence for a different type of life existing in those dimensions, let alone a need for it.

 

[Korytco]

Truth, lies, sort of hard to define sometimes honestly. When it comes to this subject especially.

I can tell you , this was not meant to be about robots and what not ...how it got there I do not know

You guys are like a drug trip, I get exposed to your tripe, get lost, confused dizzy ... fall right off track with a thread and straight down on my ass .

 

[der Astronom]

Hey there, be nice.

There's no need to get offensive; I think we're just as confused as you are, so instead of pointing fingers, it would be nice if you guys just asked each other to clarify what you're trying to say.

 

[Rockman X]

Truth, lies, sort of hard to define sometimes honestly. When it comes to this subject especially.

That probably has something to do with solipsism having absolutely no evidence or proof and being one of the most illogical philosophical views out there. Of course there's no truth to it, it's an idea some halfwit Greek thought up. Is it a lie? Most likely, but there's nothing to prove it as a lie either, therefore, it is nothing but an insubstantial idea suitable only for movies and the like.

I can tell you , this was not meant to be about robots and what not ...how it got there I do not know

It got to robots because the way you described people, like how we were hooked up to machines in alternate realities, or if in alternate realities we could alter our programming, sounded robotic. Although I quite like that idea of us being floating alien heads in jars, that was groovy

You guys are like a drug trip, I get exposed to , get lost, confused dizzy ... fall right off track with a thread and straight down on my ass .

Imo it would take a drug trip to believe in all the stuff you've been going on about.

 

[Korytco]

Hey there, be nice.

There's no need to get offensive; I think we're just as confused as you are, so instead of pointing fingers, it would be nice if you guys just asked each other to clarify what you're trying to say.

You are like a Vulcan in my eyes. As some one who likes star trek that is a compliment.

Fine, I will try to understand why all my threads fly off topic...

I do not want to believe or believe in any of it except for the possibility that it may be. Mainly the alien thing in fact, because I had a dream . I had a dream of alien severed heads .

 

[Onusha]

Notice you yourself say its going back on topic. Notice the hater masters at work derailing the hell out of a thread. That would have been a perfect response as edited , thank you. If anyone is capable of making such a fantastic response please join in. Im going swimming.

Why do you always declare that you're going places after you have a cry and whine about everyone who doesn't agree with you?

Truth, lies, sort of hard to define sometimes honestly. When it comes to this subject especially.

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

I can tell you , this was not meant to be about robots and what not ...how it got there I do not know

Yeah because using examples to aid in the understanding of philosophical ideas is just silly.

You guys are like a drug trip, I get exposed to your tripe, get lost, confused dizzy ... fall right off track with a thread and straight down on my ass .

You still have failed to prove your negative.

 

[der Astronom]

When I said "be nice" though, I meant that for everyone.

 

[Korytco]

Too bad though that all this hate, and anger scared away the 2 different people that voted yes.

 

[Rockman X]

Fine, I will try to understand why all my threads fly off topic...

This thread has not gone off topic. We're still talking about your initial post, everything else like talk of robots and whatnot is us making examples of what you've been talking about to put it in simpler, more grammatically correct terms.

I do not want to believe or believe in any of it except for the possibility that it may be.

Uh huh. That's why you're so adamant about this. You've gone from saying it's probably true to it's make believe and back again to it's a possibility.

Mainly the alien thing in fact, because I had a dream . I had a dream of alien severed heads .

I'll refrain from saying what's on my mind.

Too bad though that all this hate, and anger scared away the 2 different people that voted yes.

You mean too bad the people who agreed with you aren't posting anymore and you're stuck with people who disagree with you. Why is it that you make petty insults like calling us hateful and angry? Is this how you deal with everyone who disagrees with you? We're not being hateful, we're disagreeing with you and posting arguments as to why we think solipsism is a ludicrous idea.

This is the DEBATE section, not the AGREE WITH ME OR YOU'RE A HATER section.

 

[der Astronom]

Well, to be fair, Korytco did start the topic, so either he never made the purpose of his thread clear to begin with and should explain it, or he's misinterpreted our responses, and it's gone off topic anyways. He should clear that up, either way.

 

[TheRealTrxd]

Yes i would. Whether it is real or not wouldnt effect me. Not to mention, if its not real, then whats the definition of real? What makes the world we live in now any more real than the worlds we imagine?

 

[Morrigan]

I never would.It's those twist in life that make it interesting even if the have a negative/bad result.Leaving in your own reality means you're afraid to accept the truth(or so I think).Plus it'll result in isolation and communication between people will be even harder than now.