Your Country, what would you change?

[Shu]

I've thought about the approach of this thread for some time, and honestly this deserves an essay style response, but it would take me days. I've noticed other threads showing reasons why my country, America, has changed drastically (the 1/2 Hispanic wearing an American flag on Cinco De Mayo, ask to leave school), and this prompted this response now.

So the question is, growing up where you are from, what would you change if you could? What it be certain laws? Would it be the type of Government? Would it be the acceptable of religion? Debatable responses are encouraged.

 

[The Witch]

I would change, for sure, that anybody can tell Americans in America to not wear the American flag. It's bull we can't even do that in our own Country.

I would change that people can come into our Country and say how we deserved the 911 attacks. I would change that those people would never be able to wish ill-health on Americans just because they're Americans.

Those are the the view things I see wrong with our Country.

 

[Linnaete]

Similarly, waving St. George's flags around in Britain have been viewed with suspicion lately due to fears of racist ideology disguised as patriotism. I don't particularly see it that way. Just as it is perfectly fair to wear the American flag in the USA, Brits should be able to have St. George's flags in their own country. It just saddens me when I see cases of people being asked to stop by paranoid authorities from parading flags through fear of upsetting people.

Despite having liberal left-wing beliefs, I have the occasional right-wing and *gasp* conservative beliefs as well. Partial Eurosceptism is one of them. While I don't belief it will be beneficial for the UK to completely withdraw from the EU, I would want the country to retain the sovereign powers it is entitled to, but has lost to Brussels. The EU itself is an undemocratic institution and it would be unfair if they become a greater sovereign body than our parliament.

There is also the case of people who live in Britain yet they condemn the nation anyway. Inciting racial hatred is already against the law, but I would change how that is enforced. Attempts to punish these kind of people and deporting them apparently goes against their "human rights" as dictated by the European Convention on Human Rights. I don't agree with that. Screw their rights. If they wish death on us for being westerners, then get the hell out of here. They're not wanted.

After watching the general election go underway, it just makes me raise an eyebrow to hear that people were turned away from voting. There is a rule that at 10pm polling stations must close. There is the convention that polling day happens only on a Thursday. That isn't fair for people who have to work all day. I would scrap that rule of 10pm and change the day of the election to a Saturday or something. Even better - make it last for two days at least. Turning people away from voting should never happen in a democracy. It was probably an embarassment to us.

 

[GBJoker]

I would completely overhall the entire government.

First off, the obvious. Senate and House would have limited amount of terms, like the President. Supreme Court Justices could only serve for maybe some where around 20ish years. There is already an Amendment that states very clearly that any pay raises enacted by the Congress would not take effect until the next term. That sounds all nice and good, until you realize that Congress voting doesn't even come remotely close to how many people vote for President. So therefore, I'd freeze pay for at least a decade, and then enact a law stating that pay only go up just enough to keep up with inflation.

I'd remove any and all welfare programs. Completely remove both Medicare/caid, and sharply reduce Social Security, so that only those over age 67 can recieve any benefit from SS. I would then allocate a large percent of that money towards healthcare for military veterans who are unable to fight in any way anymore.

On military, I'd again freeze pay for roughly a decade or so, and focus more on spending for weapons and armor, while scaling back all military units until we can have an effective defensive perimeter around the borders. At which point, we'd only attack some one if US soil or US territory has been attacked. For rogue agents, such as terrorists, I'd put some of the money saved from not having war with very many people towards the training of small, possibly amphibious, stealth units, and the development of their weapons and equipment to allow surgical strikes against said rogue agents.

I'd enact a small few laws that would reinforce illegal immigration, and deport far more people than we currently do. How to detect for illegals is still something I've not figured out. One thing is though, that should any random business employ even one illegal, there'd be heavy fines, no matter how small or big the business is.

Religion would be effectively removed from all government in it's entirety. Most of the founding fathers were not any denomination of Christianity, and I'd remove various things, such as the President using a bible or qu'ran to swear into office, and witnesses in court using the same to swear to tell the truth.

I'd grant small but note-worthy tax breaks or subsidies to businesses who outsource absolutely nothing and no one. Probably just barely big enough to make it slightly profitable for American businesses to hire Americans over outsourcing.

While I'd remove most regulations on businesses, there would still be laws and agencies in effect to regulate the absolute biggest. Banks and the stock market would watched far more closely, in order to prevent trades similar to derivatives from happening again. There will be stock trading, bond trading, goods trading, and a few others, but there would be no allowance of anything nearly as complex as derivatives. I'd still allow a mix of derivatives and insurance to be traded, to allow farmers and a few other markets to protect themselves against crashes.

On that note, there will be far and away less incentive for farmers to force grow certain crops. I'd still allow a few crops to be grown, but I'd scale back the subsidies for those, so that seasonal farmers can make more of a profit. I'd also enact a law that would prevent companies like Monsanto from lobbying for laws that would prevent seed-cleaning, and various other farming practices. As well, the food industry would be regulated far more intensely by a new agency similar to the FDA. I know what the FDA does, but I would want a new agency that comes down hard on the food industry for various practices the industry does at the very moment.

On gun control, I'd remove laws against carrying guns in public, and make that completely controlled by private businesses who own that particular piece of land. People could still walk down the sidewalk with a gun in sight though. But I'd enact laws to force ALL sellers at gun shows to require back-ground checks for any potential customers.

On health care insurance, I'd completely remove all state/regional restrictions on healthcare insurance companies, and allow any health insurance company to advertise and sell insurance to any one in the country. Depending on how that goes, I'd think some more on what to do.

Other than all of that, I'd most likely have a few people from each state go through the books, and remove most laws, and give a fresh modern start to each states' law books. I'd continue to encourage states to make their own laws though, and slowly reach the point where the federal government only acts on big things, such as military, foreign issues, nation wide issues, etc.

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I know it's not the prettiest or most well-written essay I've ever wrote, but I just woke up 30 minutes ago. If any one has any random questions, do so however you're allowed. Although, the OP is sort of hinting that details go into PMs, but, eh, what can ya do.

 

[Shu]

America.. sigh.. Land of the free... sigh.

I love my country, and love the folks that live here, but there is a lot I would improve upon.

1) Foreign Relations + War '01 til Now - The fact of the matter is the US has put itself into a sink hole ever since the end of the Regan administration. Ever since we helped out Kuwait back in 1990 in Desert Strike, it was like a slow decline. Then officially when we started into the war in 2001, it was falsely perceived as a way for Americans to flex their long arm of power. First of all ever since WWII America has almost been known as the Isolationists of our age. Only due to the fact we only fully helped when we would get attacked. As well, the fact that people perceived as a threat due to our constant advancements in scientific weaponry as well as Military growth. So ever since around 2003 or so we've been seen as a bully rather than a help to the UN. Instead of seeing the war as revenge for 9/11, it was perceived as a slight of hand. Meaning it was used to search for nuclear weapons/bio chemical weapons, and secure ties with more natural resources.. AKA oil. Some of this might be true to be perfectly honest. *gasp* Though the problem is over the years of the war in Iraq/Afghanistan people saw it as a means to restructure a country so that the threat of a tyrannical dictator such as Saddam would not take head. Which would be nice, but the fact remains our troops probably will never "fully" leave.. We've been promising families for years that we would withdraw so their baby boys/girls could come back and spend a holiday with them. During all this our foreign relations from the public eye (just basing this off news and such) seems to have been very spiky (not static, always changing). It would not take much at this point for an all out war to be brought to our home turf. Instead of telling false truths, we should just tell folks what they "NEED" to hear, not what they "WANT" to hear.

2) Further auditing of larger companies - I've monitored a few new sites in the past years to see companies progressions in the markets and seen the lack of care of employees when it comes to their own self preservation. We all know that sometimes the ends more than justifies the means, but some companies need to learn to be more de-centralized as well as learn to share the wealth with their employees rather than give all the CEOS, VPS, Presidents, CFOs, Managers the high high paying jobs compared to drastic differential pay of the other employees. People go to college/job trait schools/ to establish these higher paying jobs, but for what these days? Our market is in shambles, people are finally having to dive into their 401k retirement money and people are being let go left and right because the companies don't know how to adjust to the lack of turn overs. In my opinion this should be noted in the better business bureas as a sinkhole. Meaning if a company is to survive in today's day and age, they should learn how to lower the companies salaries all the way across rather than mass firings. Good hardworking folks are now being left to wither and work very low paying jobs just to send their kids to a public school (not a bad thing) where they can't afford them to hang out with their friends after school because they (8-15 year olds) have to come back and look after their siblings because their parents are working night jobs. I mean come on, there has to be some bad business practices found in the accounting. I think it's unlawful for folks to be paid so much, when it is their employees who actually do all the hard work without any sort of benefit but insurance. (that's if they have a job now).

3) Better Regulation of Bills - Currently I've been reading into articles to see why certain taxes are just now being applied, or just increased in general. My wife works to manage a tanning bed company, and recently the health bill passed where a 10% tax will be placed on all "types" of tans including spray tans, and take away the taxing of botoxs. I question this due to the fact that tanning has never been proving to cause "skin" cancer unless done in extreme amounts... like drinking to much water and floating your liver. So why the heck now all of the sudden would taxes be placed on tanning practices? Why? Because they are privately owned businesses and our government is looking to focus on these business to tax on. The only way they can get around it is because they can say it causes "melanoma" or skin cancer, which is a total crock of shit in all honesty. The fact is these new bills that are coming through are looking to hurt the privately owned businesses because they are not owned or invested more into the government like corporations are. More or less if they become publicized then certain laws and stipulations have to be met in order to keep in businesses. This is what I don't get. We are in a capitalistic country right? Then why frown upon the best capitalism there is? Inventing stuff.. is a form of private business unless sold to a corporate company/government. Pretty soon our country will be ran by Microsoft or Apple or Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae, that's what it is coming down to.

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That's enough ranting for now.. I've done by share, I might come back and revisit or add more (as I have about 3 other things I wish to change about our country as a whole)

 

[Valvalis]

I would change, for sure, that anybody can tell Americans in America to not wear the American flag. It's bull we can't even do that in our own Country.

I do think it's strange when the flag of any country is not given precedence over the complaints of a non-native person who happens to be in that country. If you're visiting a relative or neighbor's house, you don't put your feet all over their furniture and disrespect them, and I think it's the same way when you're visiting a foreign country or when you move there from somewhere else, you should maintain a certain level of respect for them for hosting you, whether you end up becoming a hardworking contributor to that country's society or not. You should not feel like they owe you anything, regardless of disputes between that nation and your homeland that happened in the past--the only people who cause trouble are the ones in charge who make the laws, not the common people who voted for them not knowing that they would start wars etc.

On that note, I would change the voting system in America so that it is 100% democratic, rather than being a representative democracy. Instead of electing Congressmen and helplessly hoping that they will do the right thing, I think every U.S. citizen should be allowed to have a public vote on every bill or law that comes to the plate. It could be done electronically, just like voting for the president, and if people didn't care about it, they could choose to skip it if they wanted to; but all the people who did care would be able to vote. For example, something like oil drilling in national parks--from what I can tell, the environment seems to be the last concern of most politicians, and they would rather whore it out than spend any extra effort trying to find ways to preserve it and still keep the people who need its resources happy. Or, even if they do care, they are too busy with other things to pay attention to it, and may just sign off on a bill that destroys it just to avoid going into a lengthy filibuster. However, there are a lot of common citizens who care about the environment, or visit those parks etc, who would be strongly opposed to the oil drilling, and if they were allowed to vote on it, rather than relying on their Congressmen, there's a lot better chance that it would be overturned. This type of system would much better reflect the will of the common people, and it would allow people to have more control over what happens in their country than they currently do. I mean sure, there are a lot of people who don't really look into issues before they vote on them, and base their decisions on ridiculous propaganda rather than common sense, but a lot of those people would probably not bother going to the polls every time a law is passed anyway; I do believe there are some people out there who only vote for the president because it's a fad; it's treated somewhat like a holiday sometimes and it's something to chit chat about with your friends at the water cooler or whatnot. They'll vote once every four years and then never even watch the news in between to see what's going on politically; they might hear about things that affect them directly, but other than that they won't really follow politics because they don't really care that much.

I also think the date of the Thanksgiving holiday should be changed to sometime in a different part of the year, because IMO it is disrespectful to Native Americans and most people don't celebrate its original connotation anymore anyway, they just celebrate being with their families. I actually heard somewhere that the first Thanksgiving occurred in 1637 on the day 700 Pequot men, women, and children were massacred by European soldiers; but whether this is true or not, the violent events that occurred as a result of the Europeans' arrival make me uncomfortable, and I hate that the early U.S. government could not keep its promises to the Native American leaders about not encroaching on their territories. There was plenty of room here for both sides and I think the whole thing was handled really poorly. I don't mind if people today want to celebrate being with their families on a particular day, but I just think the timing of it as it is now is insensitive, especially in a country whose government tries so hard to appease all the other cultures who live here.

 

[JesusVsThePolice]

I would change that people can come into our Country and say how we deserved the 911 attacks. I would change that those people would never be able to wish ill-health on Americans just because they're Americans.

To me, this sound really close to something along the lines of communism. And it's scary as fuck to even think about being arrested or even killed for your thoughts.

Things I would change though, hmm...
Disability checks, get some of these lazy fucks off it who just don't want to work. I hate seeing some old person who is unable to work because of a disability and not being able to get a disability check; while some other 20 year old kid is runnin' around with it because he doesn't want to work.

Religion, hmm. I think people need to understand that America was founded on Christianity or what the fuck ever. I hate religion and I really don't care if it's in a classroom or something like that. So what I'm getting at is, I don't think someone should be offended by saying the pledge of allegiance or praying in school. If you don't like it, don't do it. But that's no reason for someone to go out of their way and get the whole thing banned.

I would type more, but this thread is already giving me a headache.

 

[Crystal]

I would like to change a lot in the Netherlands.

First of the prison sentences, I think the sentences can be longer because a few people are stuck for only a few years for a murder. Also 'they have to make it more fair because you get a higher punishment when it comes to civil servants. A man took a group civil servants as hostage once for a few hours and he had a rediculous sentence, around 10 years jail.

Also we shouldn't let in more foreigners in our country that easily since this country clearly can't handle it.

The taxes can be lower as well. Sometimes we have to pay more money than we earn in a month.

People who do hard work 9 hours a day has to get paid more.

 

[Channizard]

There's not a whole lot I would change about Canader. Our Health Care is one of the best regarding benefits, and our gas prices are pretty fair, but I would change the minimum wage in BC. Our minimum wage is 8.25/hour, and that's the lowest in the whole country. Next after that, is Newfoundland (I think) which has an even 10 I believe. Most BCer's can't live on 8.25, I know I can't, I'm still living with my parents. It sucks. =/ If we could get to just 10 bucks, it would be wonderful. Things would be just a bit easier, but Gordon Cambell just... won't.

 

[Robbiedbee]

I just wish racist issues were resolved. I wish English people were more accepting towards racial minorities. I think a lot of people judge prematurely based purely on skin colour, when in actuality, it is only a very small minority of these minorities who are in any way problematic. Some people just do not have the mental capacity to accept that the world is becoming more and more homogeneous with every year.

At the same time, I wish Asian communities did themselves a favour, and met English people halfway in this acceptance, or just went back to Asia. I think they should at least make an effort to integrate into our society if they want to use our facilities and everything this great country has to offer.

We can't we all just get along?

That aside, I consider myself very lucky to be English. I have a great life here.

 

[SaShman]

To me, this sound really close to something along the lines of communism.

Lol wait until you read MY ideas

Well my idea is incredibly idealistic, unrealistic and verging on authoritarianism but that's what's fun about this thread

I would make the government provide free communal housing. Private homeownership would cease to exist and all housing would be identical (with exception to handicap access etc..). People can still possess personal items though.

The fact that all houses are identical serves the purpose of putting all people at the same level, emphasizing equality. No one has a mansion, no one is homeless.

These buildings would be similar in design to an apartment building except firstly, they would house less people (10-20) and secondly aside from bedrooms and bathrooms, all living areas would be shared. The purpose of this is to encourage social interaction. The individual (unless couples wish to share) bedrooms would ensure that a person has a certain level of privacy.

The idea of making the houses shared serves several purposes. Firstly it is an attempt to lower antisocial behavior (stealing, violence etc.). My logic is that if people are consistently surrounded by one another, they may have more of a tendency to behave in an acceptable way and take responsibility for their actions. Also being constantly surrounded by people aims to encourage empathy.

Secondly on a similar note, making the houses shared aims to decrease the rate of depression and anxiety disorders thus reducing the suicide rate.

Thirdly if people lived this way, the amount of space in urban areas will dramatically increase.

Finally, the aim is to change our culture from an individualistic culture (everyman for himself) into a collectivist culture. If people are required to share living and cooking areas, I'd say it would be highly likely that the household would function as a small community to provide food for everyone/clean up etc. Thus promoting respect for one another and people in general.

Like I said, incredibly idealistic etc. But ultimately I think it would improve society.

 

[blakstang98]

Here in America, there are many things going wrong these days. And honestly, I feel like a new President would fix most of the major issues, as our current "president" has created more issues and will continue to make more of a mess. But with the risk of getting into a political debacle, I'll keep it at that.

Other than that major issue, everything is minor for the most part. We could use an improvement on our education system, but only a minor tweak would do the trick. Laws could use a little more support for the innocent man, as the criminal is always protected under our current system. And I think the idea of large corporations and big business taking small business out of the picture doesn't work in the big picture either.

I'll keep it at that for now.

 

[Donald Trump]

1) Foreign Relations + War '01 til Now - The fact of the matter is the US has put itself into a sink hole ever since the end of the Regan administration. Ever since we helped out Kuwait back in 1990 in Desert Strike, it was like a slow decline. Then officially when we started into the war in 2001, it was falsely perceived as a way for Americans to flex their long arm of power. First of all ever since WWII America has almost been known as the Isolationists of our age. Only due to the fact we only fully helped when we would get attacked. As well, the fact that people perceived as a threat due to our constant advancements in scientific weaponry as well as Military growth. So ever since around 2003 or so we've been seen as a bully rather than a help to the UN. Instead of seeing the war as revenge for 9/11, it was perceived as a slight of hand. Meaning it was used to search for nuclear weapons/bio chemical weapons, and secure ties with more natural resources.. AKA oil. Some of this might be true to be perfectly honest. *gasp* Though the problem is over the years of the war in Iraq/Afghanistan people saw it as a means to restructure a country so that the threat of a tyrannical dictator such as Saddam would not take head. Which would be nice, but the fact remains our troops probably will never "fully" leave.. We've been promising families for years that we would withdraw so their baby boys/girls could come back and spend a holiday with them. During all this our foreign relations from the public eye (just basing this off news and such) seems to have been very spiky (not static, always changing). It would not take much at this point for an all out war to be brought to our home turf. Instead of telling false truths, we should just tell folks what they "NEED" to hear, not what they "WANT" to hear.

I don't think America was isolationist post WW2. Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan in 1979, plus having a major influence in Latin and South America. America has been for over 50 years trying to influence the world to do things the way that will benefit America.

What I'd change about my own country?
I'd bring back the death penalty, but only for corrupt politicians.
I'd over throw the education system, currently the exams are almost impossible to fail.
Finally, I'd invade and take over Australia.

 

[cloudff7pc]

Similarly, waving St. George's flags around in Britain have been viewed with suspicion lately due to fears of racist ideology disguised as patriotism. I don't particularly see it that way. Just as it is perfectly fair to wear the American flag in the USA, Brits should be able to have St. George's flags in their own country. It just saddens me when I see cases of people being asked to stop by paranoid authorities from parading flags through fear of upsetting people.

Despite having liberal left-wing beliefs, I have the occasional right-wing and *gasp* conservative beliefs as well. Partial Eurosceptism is one of them. While I don't belief it will be beneficial for the UK to completely withdraw from the EU, I would want the country to retain the sovereign powers it is entitled to, but has lost to Brussels. The EU itself is an undemocratic institution and it would be unfair if they become a greater sovereign body than our parliament.

There is also the case of people who live in Britain yet they condemn the nation anyway. Inciting racial hatred is already against the law, but I would change how that is enforced. Attempts to punish these kind of people and deporting them apparently goes against their "human rights" as dictated by the European Convention on Human Rights. I don't agree with that. Screw their rights. If they wish death on us for being westerners, then get the hell out of here. They're not wanted.

After watching the general election go underway, it just makes me raise an eyebrow to hear that people were turned away from voting. There is a rule that at 10pm polling stations must close. There is the convention that polling day happens only on a Thursday. That isn't fair for people who have to work all day. I would scrap that rule of 10pm and change the day of the election to a Saturday or something. Even better - make it last for two days at least. Turning people away from voting should never happen in a democracy. It was probably an embarassment to us.

Some rascist undertones. The part where you say "Screw their rights for wishing death on us for being westerners" kind of basically sounds like you're targeting Muslim people. In fact not all refugees and asylum seekers are muslim, they are from a number of different countries. The bulk of the muslim people you are referring to are those that have normal lives, pay their taxes, send their children to school etc. How about the anglo people that live in council estates who claim not to be able to work and sign on to benefits and the dole, when they could clearly go and work?

how about the binge drinking and the random attacks on coloured or foreign people who are normal people, who as a matter of fact, have darker skin due to the environment of their origins.

Also, your post was overall extremely good, but I'm shocked to see that the propaganda that you see on television and media has ushered you to believe that part of the solution to bettering and improving the country would be to "send the immigrants - namely the muslim people, since its the muslims you refer to when you said they wish death upon you.

Final point on this matter is that, by a very similar convention, during WWII, one of the reasons that a number of Jewish people had to flee from the country that they were living in and start anew was because they had no choice.

Some of the immigrants that live in the UK had no choice - who, fair do's may not integrate enough and take a more constructive approach towards adapting to a new society and way of life - have the right to live just like any other. They didn't decide to come on holiday, it is normally a matter of survival.

You do not own the country and no one owns any country. In fact, if you take a look at the history of the United Kingdom and America, the country never belonged to you. Much like Australia. There were Native Americans before the Americans who were slain because man has this undying need to conquer everything. So in reality, you don't even own the country, it belongs to the natives that were all generally massacred, so I don't believe you or any other has the right to decide whether a persons survival should be hindered because it doesn't suit you or your need to wear a St.George or American flag on the streets.

And to clarify something, you talk about people coming to your land and so on, how about what the "Western world" have done in Afghanistan, Iraq, and countless other countries? Double standards really, on the one hand you say you want respect from foreign people who choose to reside in your countries, and yet on the other hand you go and decide to bomb the living hell out of other countries for your insecurity in the future of your country and your greed.

 

[Shu]

Some rascist undertones. The part where you say "Screw their rights for wishing death on us for being westerners" kind of basically sounds like you're targeting Muslim people. In fact not all refugees and asylum seekers are muslim, they are from a number of different countries. The bulk of the muslim people you are referring to are those that have normal lives, pay their taxes, send their children to school etc. How about the anglo people that live in council estates who claim not to be able to work and sign on to benefits and the dole, when they could clearly go and work?

how about the binge drinking and the random attacks on coloured or foreign people who are normal people, who as a matter of fact, have darker skin due to the environment of their origins.

Also, your post was overall extremely good, but I'm shocked to see that the propaganda that you see on television and media has ushered you to believe that part of the solution to bettering and improving the country would be to "send the immigrants - namely the muslim people, since its the muslims you refer to when you said they wish death upon you.

Final point on this matter is that, by a very similar convention, during WWII, one of the reasons that a number of Jewish people had to flee from the country that they were living in and start anew was because they had no choice.

Some of the immigrants that live in the UK had no choice - who, fair do's may not integrate enough and take a more constructive approach towards adapting to a new society and way of life - have the right to live just like any other. They didn't decide to come on holiday, it is normally a matter of survival.

You do not own the country and no one owns any country. In fact, if you take a look at the history of the United Kingdom and America, the country never belonged to you. Much like Australia. There were Native Americans before the Americans who were slain because man has this undying need to conquer everything. So in reality, you don't even own the country, it belongs to the natives that were all generally massacred, so I don't believe you or any other has the right to decide whether a persons survival should be hindered because it doesn't suit you or your need to wear a St.George or American flag on the streets.

And to clarify something, you talk about people coming to your land and so on, how about what the "Western world" have done in Afghanistan, Iraq, and countless other countries? Double standards really, on the one hand you say you want respect from foreign people who choose to reside in your countries, and yet on the other hand you go and decide to bomb the living hell out of other countries for your insecurity in the future of your country and your greed.

While this is all well and good, you didn't exactly state what you would change in your own country. Please contribute if you could, not just rebuttals.

Also, your post was overall extremely good, but I'm shocked to see that the propaganda that you see on television and media has ushered you to believe that part of the solution to bettering and improving the country would be to "send the immigrants - namely the muslim people, since its the muslims you refer to when you said they wish death upon you.

What would your reaction be if a set group of Muslims took up a jihad and bombed the ever living shit out a train station. Or better yet, what would you do if repeated offenses occurred with a certain group of Muslims that ushered forth 9/11 then on top of that have repeatedly tried to board air planes since with weapons. All for what? For defending Isreal? For occupying land in Afganistan during Desert strike in order to fight against Sadam? The problem is if people are willing to be suicidal for their god just because they wish to make their people proud.. what type of brain washing is this? KEEEEL THE INFIDELS. I mean I'm not going to go into a religious debate, but seriously if muslim folks, whether they be Sunni, Shi'a, Sufi or etc, choose to occupy a certain piece of land well they are forced to live with whatever society they have to deal with. That's just how us humans work, we play our societal roles. A lot of folks can be mad rightfully with religious folks in general, so I can understand where Olivia is coming from on this.

I wish I could push some extremists christians away from where I live.. so there we go.. I'll add that to my list. You don't believe in Jesus.. you burn in the lake of fire.

 

[cloudff7pc]

While this is all well and good, you didn't exactly state what you would change in your own country. Please contribute if you could, not just rebuttals.



What would your reaction be if a set group of Muslims took up a jihad and bombed the ever living shit out a train station. Or better yet, what would you do if repeated offenses occurred with a certain group of Muslims that ushered forth 9/11 then on top of that have repeatedly tried to board air planes since with weapons. All for what? For defending Isreal? For occupying land in Afganistan during Desert strike in order to fight against Sadam? The problem is if people are willing to be suicidal for their god just because they wish to make their people proud.. what type of brain washing is this? KEEEEL THE INFIDELS. I mean I'm not going to go into a religious debate, but seriously if muslim folks, whether they be Sunni, Shi'a, Sufi or etc, choose to occupy a certain piece of land well they are forced to live with whatever society they have to deal with. That's just how us humans work, we play our societal roles. A lot of folks can be mad rightfully with religious folks in general, so I can understand where Olivia is coming from on this.

I wish I could push some extremists christians away from where I live.. so there we go.. I'll add that to my list. You don't believe in Jesus.. you burn in the lake of fire.

Firstly, I'd like to apologise for not actually contributing. I got carried away.

The problem with this whole 9/11 and train attack thing is that as a result of it, the word terrorism has become synonymous with the muslim race. Islam is a peaceful faith, much like any other. Since the very ethics and morals of any society stem from religion, it doesn't make sense that there are religious wars and so forth. I don't believe there is any religion that promotes violence.

Please do not mistake what I'm about to say as me being pro-terrorism, because I'm fully against it. But the reason that these things happen is fairly obvious. These people are radicalized. They are radicalized when they see their families being blown to bits in front of them. Martyrdom seems like a good deal with you have nothing to live for. Human emotion is a very powerful tool, when a person reaches an emotional peak, someone with the right skills can brainwash them into doing anything. It is a fatal flaw. Don't get me wrong, I am fully against terrorism. I just hate the fact that since these major events took place, the Islamic faith has been constantly misjudged and exploited.

We all know the real reasons behing going to war with Iraq. Oil is the most important natural resource on the planet. Millions of scientists are currently trying to replicate the process of the creation of oil but their processes are not efficient. Since 3/5 of the world's oil sits in the Middle-East, and the Oil Reserves running low, of course it would make sense to go to War with the claim of WMD's and War against terror (which is really the War against Islam).

One thing I've never understood about this whole middle-eastern conflict, is that Saudi Arabia is in reality the Muslim Capital in the world, why is this country never featured in the news. Why is it that the people that live in Dubai, who are predominantly muslim, why is there never any conflict there? We all know why. It goes without saying.

I am not into conspiracies, but as a matter of fact, there was never any real or solid evidence implying that Muslims were behind the attack. But I won't say more. This is up to you to decide. The most powerful weapon on this planet is the Media.

The entire world came to the aid of the Jewish people when they were being massacred in Germany, while Hitler's reason was that the country was doing bad because of the Jews. What's being said now by the BNP? Apparently it is the fault of the foreign people in the UK as to why the country is doing bad. Of course, employment and housing issues are because of the foreigners. I don't see how this propaganda is even being bought. We're in a recession because of the foreigners, not because of the Northern Rock and Bank Borrowing issues that originated in the US. Makes total sense

Instead of focusing on religion, and foreign politics. Wouldn't it make more sense to better the country by focusing on domestic issues. Like Healthcare, Infrastructure, Employment, Education? These are the things that are important. Military advancement nor War against muslims will ever put bread on our table, a roof over our head, and a job to go to. It's not the Foreign People that is a problem. In fact, the irony is that my father is a financial consultant, and of an ethnic origin, has come to the aid of a number of Anglo British people who were about to have their houses repossessed. And in return, what do foreign people get? Racial assault, discrimination, blame for the countris problems.

So ultimately, what would I change in the country? I would change the interests of our Government, those interests should be more focalised on the people of our country, on the wellbeing and prosperity of our people, in our homeland.


Apologies if it's incoherent, I'm a bit tired and you may imagine that at this time of the night it's not easy to address everything you said.

 

[GBJoker]

Firstly, I'd like to apologise for not actually contributing. I got carried away.

The problem with this whole 9/11 and train attack thing is that as a result of it, the word terrorism has become synonymous with the muslim race. Islam is a peaceful faith, much like any other. Since the very ethics and morals of any society stem from religion, it doesn't make sense that there are religious wars and so forth. I don't believe there is any religion that promotes violence.

Sadly, this gets torn apart by the fact that quite a high percentage of Muslims and Jews (Isreal), are terrorists, compared to other religions.

Please do not mistake what I'm about to say as me being pro-terrorism, because I'm fully against it. But the reason that these things happen is fairly obvious. These people are radicalized. They are radicalized when they see their families being blown to bits in front of them. Martyrdom seems like a good deal with you have nothing to live for. Human emotion is a very powerful tool, when a person reaches an emotional peak, someone with the right skills can brainwash them into doing anything. It is a fatal flaw. Don't get me wrong, I am fully against terrorism. I just hate the fact that since these major events took place, the Islamic faith has been constantly misjudged and exploited.

Actually, the biggest reason most people become terrorists is job security. The average family in Afghanistan makes roughly 500 American dollars a year. And that's assuming two or more people in the family are working, if they can even get work. Hard to work on drug farms when those blasted UN workers and Americans and so forth keep burning the drug crops down.

We all know the real reasons behing going to war with Iraq. Oil is the most important natural resource on the planet. Millions of scientists are currently trying to replicate the process of the creation of oil but their processes are not efficient. Since 3/5 of the world's oil sits in the Middle-East, and the Oil Reserves running low, of course it would make sense to go to War with the claim of WMD's and War against terror (which is really the War against Islam).

I like how every one wants to save Sudan's crisis thingy because 100k + people have been chopped down by machetes over virtually nothing, ie, religious/political reasons, but Saddam Hussein directly ordered the deaths of over 100k of his people (I forget if they were Sunni or Shiite) in Iraq over the course of his reign. Quite a few he did by himself with his own guns. Also, there's the fact that the USA BARELY gets any of it's oil from Iraq. Foreign oil suppliers in order, Canada, Venezuela, Libya, and after that it drops into single digit percentages hard and fast.

One thing I've never understood about this whole middle-eastern conflict, is that Saudi Arabia is in reality the Muslim Capital in the world, why is this country never featured in the news. Why is it that the people that live in Dubai, who are predominantly muslim, why is there never any conflict there? We all know why. It goes without saying.

Technically, you can also argue that Egypt or Indonesia is the Muslim capital of the world. But beside that, Saudi Arabia just so happens to be... America's ally. And trust me, there's just as much conflict there as there is in any other Muslim nation, it's just that

Spoiler

Washington and the media don't want us to know about that little tid bit of information, since all of America's allies are supposed to be "good guys," no matter what.

I am not into conspiracies, but as a matter of fact, there was never any real or solid evidence implying that Muslims were behind the attack. But I won't say more. This is up to you to decide. The most powerful weapon on this planet is the Media.

Which is why you listen to it so well.

The entire world came to the aid of the Jewish people when they were being massacred in Germany, while Hitler's reason was that the country was doing bad because of the Jews.

At the expense of the Muslims who just happened to live near Jerusalem.

What's being said now by the BNP? Apparently it is the fault of the foreign people in the UK as to why the country is doing bad. Of course, employment and housing issues are because of the foreigners. I don't see how this propaganda is even being bought. We're in a recession because of the foreigners, not because of the Northern Rock and Bank Borrowing issues that originated in the US. Makes total sense

Oddly enough, belief is now that Europe's manufacturing capabilities are going to dwindle to virtually nothing unless foreigners (Muslims) come in and take the low paying jobs.

Instead of focusing on religion, and foreign politics. Wouldn't it make more sense to better the country by focusing on domestic issues. Like Healthcare, Infrastructure, Employment, Education? These are the things that are important. Military advancement nor War against muslims will ever put bread on our table, a roof over our head, and a job to go to. It's not the Foreign People that is a problem. In fact, the irony is that my father is a financial consultant, and of an ethnic origin, has come to the aid of a number of Anglo British people who were about to have their houses repossessed. And in return, what do foreign people get? Racial assault, discrimination, blame for the countris problems.

While true, because of the advent of the television, internet, and just plain old radio, physical borders between nations are quickly meaning less and less. Unfortunately, war and military is still the only way to mean anything on the international level. Just look at how hard Iran is fighting just to even look at the word "nuclear."



And I'm still thinking of other ways to change America. It's just that it's so hard to accurately put into words what I'm thinking.

Edit: Cleaning up, spelling, etc...

 

[Talbain]

NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY.

This TAINT on society, this poisonous remnant of the long passed Great Depression era, has dragged trillions of dollars out of our economy from the earners (people who need the money) to the elderly (people who should have saved their own retirement fund in the first place). The youth of this nation are decreasing in proportion to the elderly every year, and we're being forced to spend more and more of our own money to a senior population who are living longer and demanding more medical care. If nothing else, we need to fix the system by either allowing people to pay for their own social security funds instead of the generation before them or by significantly raising the minimum retirement age. We already know that the system will collapse within a few decades at the current rate, bankrupting an entire future generation of Americans just to appease a greedy elderly voting base is completely unacceptable.

 

[ren1200]

1. Id change the law about rape to the rapist gets the death penalty.
2. Id change the usa to a clan base country where a family=a clan. 150 clans=a tribe. The clans will elect a tribal leader. This leader will than be part of a council made of tribal leaders. To decide the laws the clans would give there decisions to there tribal leader who will then decide in the council which laws will be made.
3. Id legalize homosexual marriage.
4. Id remove any and all religious stuff from public owned property and stuff like the phrase in god we trust on money and having to swear by a book just before court starts.
4. Id legalize incest.
5. Id make it where anyone who even tries to touch a child sexualy serves 50 years in prison.
6. Id make it where the usa no longer gets involved in foreign wars like vietnam.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

4. Id legalize incest.

Times are tough sure but this is not the answer.............try having a shower?

Well all Im gonna says is this:

Here in Australia its compulsory to VOTE! yeah thats right fucking compulsory!
Its a good thing to coz no would give a fuck if it werent...........So Id change that for sure, if you dont wanna vote then dont.......fair enough?

Id bring in greater oversight for government run organization...........the state of our State run institutes is appalling.

I would make a Federal health system compulsory in spite of what all individual State Governments think they had there chance and people are dying why they lve in there fucking Tax payer funded luxury homes.

Most of these are rampant in other countries as well.......silly silly humans.