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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    1. It's simply amazing, amazing, the gymnastics that you do to give a very simple and widely understood expression like 'tender memories' such spectacularly asinine interpretation. 2. Despite the supposed unpleasantness that you claim there was. Cloud holds the promise they made very dear to...
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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    "She and Cloud came to realize their feelings for each other in the end of the story, and live together in AC and DC." /thread PS.Yeah, I know what's coming, "But it doesn't say what feelingz!1!!" As if anyone who uses such a simple statement with "boy, girl, feelings for each other, live...
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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    Actually that's wrong. First, in the original Japanese game Cloud says, "Tifa..." Second, Ultimania states clearly that Cloud and Tifa opened up and revealed mutual feelings. As in Tifa's feelings = Cloud's feelings. So Tifa's suggestion that they show their feelings with no words, well, they...
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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    Do you know the meaning of the word 'confirmation'? She is looking to confirm their romantic relationship. Otherwise it makes no sense for her to ask this question in those circumstances. Take a deep breath, now read my sentence again word by word. What does it say?
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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    Don't waste my time. Is this in response to something I said? Because it makes no sense, what are you replying to?
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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    According to the writers he shuts Tifa out because he is afraid to loose her and the children, a consequence of him failing people in the past, including Aeris. Not because he has feelings for someone else. Yes. And the only logical reason she would ask this at a low point in their relationship...
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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    What? The "deal" happens regardless of whether you get the date later or not. How does that make it canon? It's moot. A short time later all he wants to do is start a new life, not go meet anyone. So it is not about any desire to reunite with Aeris. Look, it's pretty laughable. Amano draws...
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    FFVII: LTD Debate Thread

    10th Anniversary Ultimania: The more he realizes how happy he is living with Tifa and the children, the more the fear of losing that and regrets toward the past trouble Cloud. Tetsuya Nomura (interview): Cloud found a peaceful life with Tifa and the children. He distances himself because he is...
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    I'll Be Going Now...

    If she knew she'd die it would make Cloud's and the crew's guilt pointless. The whole point is that she didn't have to die, that's why Tifa thinks they might not have done enough and Cloud thinks he failed. If everything was predetermined, then all of this is meaningless. It was meant to be a...
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    Bring Aerith Back

    Crisis Core will deliver enough Aeris for everyone. There is not need to resurrect her. Besides that makes a lot of the story meaningless. He couldn't get over not being able to catch her for half his life. If Tifa had died, he'd probably turn into a useless mess.
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    Cloud & Tifa's night together..

    There is a blunt implication that something physical happened, both before and after. It's easily understood. People either accept it or choose to ignore it or demand every little thing to be chewed and spoonfed to them. But it's still there.
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