Casey Anthony.

[Ness]

Well, the verdict is in. Spoiler alert: she was found not guilty on all counts except for lying to law enforcement officials during the investigation of her child's death.

What's everyone think of this? I'm guessing the general response will be one of "indignation", since that seems to be the general theme from the ladies in my news feed on Facebook. I'm going to reserve my comments for a bit later...mostly because I prefer the chance to respond to others.

 

[Sexy Beast]

Tbh, she should've been found guilty. She killed her child(not proven ofc), so she should be guilty. But hey, there are idiots in Florida. So, no that's another reason why vigilante justice beats all.

 

[Ichigo]

I made sure to read up on the story beforehand but in conclusion this:

It's a shame that justice and common sense has taken a back seat to empty roundabout runarounds and laws. I can't believe that she would lie about so many things and prove that she's not above scumbag choices and they let her go for this. Caylee Anthony's death is gonna go unpunished in the eyes of the public and that's awful.

 

[Big Casino]

Found innocent in a fair court of law. Forget about it, move on and let her get on with her life. Not gunna change the verdict, no matter how much people think she 'shoulda' been found guilty, she wasnt.

 

[Mr. Gorilla]

Two things:

A). The death penalty is disgusting and should be done away with. An "eye for an eye" morality is stupid, barbaric idiocy that either assumes a person who murders is an evil demon incapable of redemption or that some abstract idea of "justice" must be served, no matter if it's inefficient or if those guilty show genuine remorse.

B). There was reasonable doubt, and that is enough to invalidate the death penalty as an option.

I'm glad she was cleared, because this whole thing was a prime example of how much bloodlust exists in our society; the media making a monster out of her and people calling for her head without proper knowledge as to what, exactly, happened, and the competitive justice system where lawyers only care about winning and making a name for themselves as opposed to actually fighting for the truth.

It's all very, very disgusting.

 

[Bambi]

I have no idea who she even is, link?

 

[The Witch]

She's as guilty as they come.

Note: I haven't watched her trial this WHOLE time. But I know a few details that prove she's guilty imo.

One, she partied like it was 1999 when her child was missing. Two, I heard she supposedly didn't report the case for an entire month. 3 WTF was with the duct-tape? 4, her "story" was taken from an inmate she met, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see this.

I'm sorry, if my baby was missing I would be turning the city upside down trying to find her or bring her to justice.

The whole thing disgusts me. While I wish she would have been found guilty, I never wanted her to get death penalty(I'm against it) but she shouldn't get to roam this world freely as if she's innocent.

A little girl paid the ultimate price... that's the saddest part of all this.

 

[Will Graham]

As they do say an eye for an eye leaves the world blind

Well it seems like she was guilty, though you have to wonder, if she was so definitely clearly guilty, how she was found innocent? It's easy to view this case from the outside when we are not privy to every bit of information, only really what the media wants to broadcast. Things like this tend to devolve into a witch hunt fast, the case of the McCanns springs to mind. I know the case is broadcast live and such, but people would have began watching that with their minds effectively made up anyways.

Anyways as Lewis said, she was cleared of charges and nothing is going to change that. The shitstorm that's on its way is just going to make things worse and effectively end that woman's life

 

[Ness]

These are two of the responses I was hoping for. I'm a bit surprised they came so soon, though.

Two things:

A). The death penalty is disgusting and should be done away with. An "eye for an eye" morality is stupid, barbaric idiocy that either assumes a person who murders is an evil demon incapable of redemption or that some abstract idea of "justice" must be served, no matter if it's inefficient or if those guilty show genuine remorse.

B). There was reasonable doubt, and that is enough to invalidate the death penalty as an option.

I'm glad she was cleared, because this whole thing was a prime example of how much bloodlust exists in our society; the media making a monster out of her and people calling for her head without proper knowledge as to what, exactly, happened, and the competitive justice system where lawyers only care about winning and making a name for themselves as opposed to actually fighting for the truth.

It's all very, very disgusting.

The whole "Death Penalty vs. No Death Penalty" issue certainly belongs in another thread, but I agree on both counts. The second one (the "bloodlust" of the American populace) is particularly disconcerting. As soon I saw my news feed I knew this verdict would be a shitstorm of people crying about how they disagree. The underlying problem is that the media whips the populace into a frenzy...and the people now demand THEIR verdict. Who cares what the evidence did/did not show?

Found innocent in a fair court of law. Forget about it, move on and let her get on with her life. Not gunna change the verdict, no matter how much people think she 'shoulda' been found guilty, she wasnt.

This is the most important point that will be said, I think. People can complain about the "problems in the justice system", but we undermine the entire concept of trial by jury if we continually complain when a jury doesn't agree with us.

 

[Ichigo]

You're definitely right about that. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't issue because there isn't a feasible solution that would be 100% correct.

 

[The Witch]

As they do say an eye for an eye leaves the world blind

Blind people live just fine.

Well it seems like she was guilty, though you have to wonder, if she was so definitely clearly guilty, how she was found innocent?

A good lawyer?

You can be honestly guilty of something and get away with it. But, you two are right. She was proven innocent(although I don't agree) we have to see her as such. I still don't buy that, but she was found innocent. Too bad the baby girl can't be brought to justice.

 

[Roland_Deschain]

Two things:

A). The death penalty is disgusting and should be done away with. An "eye for an eye" morality is stupid, barbaric idiocy that either assumes a person who murders is an evil demon incapable of redemption or that some abstract idea of "justice" must be served, no matter if it's inefficient or if those guilty show genuine remorse.

well living in China right now they have the death penalty for DUI killing's, in my opinin I would say that is a little extreme. I however agree with our death penatly, because is it really much more merciful for people to spend their entire lives in a cage, and is it really worth the expense of own own money to pay for that.

I had not heard of this case because I am abroad, but after doing some (rather brief) research I find that it all seems like bullshit. Our society has let the seriousness of the law be shadowed by our own corruptable system of rules.

 

[Marquis of Granby]

this is the system we all happily live by while its going our way. whether you disagree or not a group of your peers found her innocent. if she really is heartless enough to kill her own daughter im sure there'll be a string of crimes to follow...

Too bad the baby girl can't be brought to justice.

you want to punish the girl for dying?

 

[Mr. Gorilla]

You can be honestly guilty of something and get away with it. But, you two are right. She was proven innocent(although I don't agree) we have to see her as such. I still don't buy that, but she was found innocent. Too bad the baby girl can't be brought to justice.

I really hate the "there's no justice for the baby girl" argument.

It's as if "justice" has somehow been equated with "punishment" in that the only way for there to be this invisible "justice" for this dead girl is for someone to get executed/locked up for life, even if that person is innocent. And considering the fact that there was reasonable doubt, her innocence is a possibility.

 

[Will Graham]

Blind people live just fine.

A good lawyer?

You can be honestly guilty of something and get away with it. But, you two are right. She was proven innocent(although I don't agree) we have to see her as such. I still don't buy that, but she was found innocent. Too bad the baby girl can't be brought to justice.

You know what I mean I am sure caligula, revenge begets revenge etc.

As for her law team, she had multiple attorneys as they all resigned for various reasons, unlikely to lead to a particularly cohesive defence strategy. Though I will admit I am unsure of the ability of her lawyers

 

[Ness]

well living in China right now they have the death penalty for DUI killing's, in my opinin I would say that is a little extreme. I however agree with our death penatly, because is it really much more merciful for people to spend their entire lives in a cage, and is it really worth the expense of own own money to pay for that.

Again, I don't want this to become a death penalty debate (maybe there oughta be a thread ), but you're advocating killing human beings who have done wrong (or maybe not) just because it's more cost-efficient that way?

I had not heard of this case because I am abroad, but after doing some (rather brief) research I find that it all seems like bullshit. Our society has let the seriousness of the law be shadowed by our own corruptable system of rules.

I'd argue that your research can't come to an appropriate conclusion since, by your own admission, it was limited. That's the precise reasons why I am not making a judgement call myself...I haven't read any of the details and certainly haven't watched much coverage or read any transcripts from the courtroom.

I'd also like you expand on that last statement. What's the difference between "the law" and the "system of rules" that you mentioned?

 

[Roland_Deschain]

Again, I don't want this to become a death penalty debate (maybe there oughta be a thread ), but you're advocating killing human beings who have done wrong (or maybe not) just because it's more cost-efficient that way?

No I'm advocating the idea of death penatly being used upon those who kill other humans beings, whether they do it by ignorance or hate. saving the tax payers money, is just an incentive to setting the example of a law systems to prevent future people from violating it.

 

[Mr. Gorilla]

On a side note, the "saving tax money" is never a worthy argument/incentive because it costs far more to hand out death penalties than it does to put someone away in prison. The trials and appeals and paperwork and whatnot isn't free; the only way in which the death penalty could save tax money is if trials were conducted lazily and with a premeditated intent to convict, and if those convicted were killed in cheap/inhumane ways, which would fly in the face of human rights/the concept of "justice."

 

[Marquis of Granby]

Again, I don't want this to become a death penalty debate (maybe there oughta be a thread ), but you're advocating killing human beings who have done wrong (or maybe not) just because it's more cost-efficient that way?

No I'm advocating the idea of death penatly being used upon those who kill other humans beings, whether they do it by ignorance or hate. saving the tax payers money, is just an incentive to setting the example of a law systems to prevent future people from violating it.

but you'd have something to say about that system if you believed the person being killed was innocent? what does it matter...one less person to burden society?

it doesnt set an example. two wrongs dont make a right, no matter the financial burden on society. if you want to try and take the moral high ground you cant then advocate doing exactly what the criminal has done - youd be just as bad as them. besides, in case it wasnt already obvious people dont learn very much when you kill them. if so many people were sent to death row there would be no criminals left (hurrah) thus very little need for prisons and prison wardens. huge job losses. hurrah!

 

[Roland_Deschain]

but you'd have something to say about that system if you believed the person being killed was innocent? what does it matter...one less person to burden society?

No I would not have something to say about that systems, but to the people in control of it. I believe we have a fair system among other options, but of course mistakes will be made.