Yeah we had an idea of Terra's past, but her being all.. brainwashed an such is gonna be a real treat to see her struggle to find herself again.
Also stop poking holes in my theory
Also stop poking holes in my theory
Fan Fiction Dissidia 012 Discussion
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It certainly will be interesting. When I first played Dissidia I thought about it. Always wonder how we could get a peak at it. Never would have guessed a prequel was so close though. I don't think SE ever did that with a game so close like that. :/Yeah we had an idea of Terra's past, but her being all.. brainwashed an such is gonna be a real treat to see her struggle to find herself again.
Also stop poking holes in my theory
Oh, sorry about that. I'm just thinking....it helps me think of new ideas.
Like if the feet aren't said to be girly, they might be a man. Jehct or maybe Tidus?
Yeah I gotta say this was the fastest coming sequel yet. X-2 may have been as close.. 
Can't quite remember.
I dunno, it just seems all too... Mary-Sueish to me. Yes, Yuna is pretty much synonymous with that scene but it had a MEANING. Why would she just randomly be walking on water in Dissidia other than to look like a Sue? And I don't want Yuna to be a Sue.
Can't quite remember. I dunno, it just seems all too... Mary-Sueish to me. Yes, Yuna is pretty much synonymous with that scene but it had a MEANING. Why would she just randomly be walking on water in Dissidia other than to look like a Sue? And I don't want Yuna to be a Sue.
Adding to that, information about the new trailer. Again, credits to ffchaoticcosmos community @ ljI like that Phantom Train will be in this. It was one of my favorite tracks in the game. And the piano version is just....beautiful. I can't wait for this game, its going to be awesome. This and FF4 PSP. Now I only need to see a FF5&6 remake and this year will be complete
I have a really, really good feeling it'll be Yuna. What other character walks on water? A female character, that is.
If its not Yuna, it might be Rydia.
Oh, and:]
+ Spoilers for the Dissidia trailer below:
Since I'm writing this from memory there's still a lot that's uncertain. Stuff you can see on the Square Homepage has been omitted.
The movie starts with Lightning talking.
The Cosmos warriors gather in front of Cosmos. Cosmos puts her hands in front of her and light flows towards each of the warriors.
Lightning: "This means we can finally change the power we've received from Cosmos into Crystals. If we do that then we should be able to return to our original worlds."
The Planet's Core.
Sephiroth: "I have been looking for you."
Tifa: "Who are you?"
Sephiroth: "That doesn't matter. I am your enemy."
Tifa: "One of Chaos' pawns."
In the battle, Tifa uses Meteor Crash. In her Ex Burst, Tifa also says "I'm breaking my Limits!" [[just like Cloud]]
Sephiroth aims Masamune at Tifa's throat, when Cloud appears crying out "Stop!"
Vaan and Terra are walking together. (There were a lot of scenes with Vaan and Terra together)
Vaan: "Before then we'll return to our original worlds. Please trust in me until that happens."
Vaan's voice is like [[his former voice actor]] Takeda's but something feels out of place.
A new area. Squall and Laguna are in a place with a castle and a lot of green spaces.
Laguna: "You're still as closemouthed as usual..."
Squall: "This is a battlefield!"
Laguna: (making a joke) "Oh, scary! Even if our fate is to be separated sooner or later." (I only have a vague memory of this bit)
Laguna and Squall are polar opposites, but they actually seem to get along quite well. I wonder if that ha to do with them being father and son?
Laguna has this image of being a 'mood setter' for the group. It seems that his voice actor is the same person who played Balthier.
Laguna's voice is completely different from Balthier's, so it didn't feel out of place and I thought it was quite good. (Still, that's only my personal opinion)
Zidane and Onion Knight.
Zidane: "Even if we defeat Chaos, that doesn't mean we're going to be sent home to our own worlds when the fighting's over."
A crystal appears in Zidane's hands.
On a tower of rubble, Terra calls out to Vaan: "Defeat me! I don't need power that can only be used for destruction!"
Cloud of Darkness: "Imitations are cursed puppets". For some reason Laguna can be seen behind her.
A scene where Kain and Golbez continue their conversation.
Kain: "If Chaos wins, the world will be plunged into disorder. Is that what you guys really want?"
Golbez: "The world won't disappear."
Cecil: "Kain! Are you all right?"
Kain turns his back to Golbez. As he's leaving, Golbez says "you should confirm the truth with your own eyes."
That annoying guy Kefka is tagging along with Kuja. Kefka: "Show us your power!"
Vaan and Zidane are sitting opposite one another inside the Phantom Train.
Vaan: "No-one knows what'll happen if we defeat Chaos."
There's a scene where Lightning feels something from Firion's Wild Rose as she stares at it.
A new map (It's like the World of Darkness from FF3, in which something that looks like a big crystal is floating)
An earnest-looking Bartz says to WoL: "You know, we could give you a great name!"
A battle screen appears.
I remember seeing Vaan's "Ex Revenge" stealing from the opponent's Ex Gauge?
During a fight Onion Knight has something like "Power and Physical Strength UP". One of Laguna's HP attacks was kind of like Squall's Blasting Zone.
During his Ex Burst he rode a mini Ragnarok.
Chaos sits in the 'Edge of Madness' map. Garland and the Emperor are both there. Emperor: "How about using [[possessing?]] this man's body?"
Beside him is Jecht's unconscious form.
A movie showing Tifa vs Sephiroth. Tifa's kick connects with the hand Sephiroth holds Masamune with
Vaan leads Terra by the hand as they run (or escape?). They are attacked from behind by Judge Gabranth.
Someplace high up, Laguna looks to be using Desperado against the magic-user Ultimecia.
Taking out a rope and hanging onto it, he lays into her with his machine gun.
There was a scene (1~2 seconds) of bare feet and a skirt that was apparently Yuna performing a Sending.
Not random, its a water stage, from the images they are basing this on. Weren't there some sorta water stages in the first Dissidia that is now the last?Yeah I gotta say this was the fastest coming sequel yet. X-2 may have been as close..
I dunno, it just seems all too... Mary-Sueish to me. Yes, Yuna is pretty much synonymous with that scene but it had a MEANING. Why would she just randomly be walking on water in Dissidia other than to look like a Sue? And I don't want Yuna to be a Sue.
How would walking on water be Marry-Sue-ish though?
Yuna kicked butt with a Gun. She will never be a Sue
+ A barefoot (woman: could it be Yuna?) in a blue hakama is shown. She's walking on water in a way that looks like an homage to a Sending. This pretty much confirms Yuna. It is translated and all. Besides Why would it be Tidus or Rydia? Those translations are really helpful. Now I just want to know what they will do for Yuna's movelists. As for her sending... Maybe something with the story?
Not random, its a water stage, from the images they are basing this on. Weren't there some sorta water stages in the first Dissidia that is now the last?
How would walking on water be Marry-Sue-ish though?
Yuna kicked butt with a Gun. She will never be a Sue
By Mary-Sueish, I mean like... doing something uncharacteristically perfect in an unfitting situation. Even that doesn't come out right, I can't seem to find the right words to describe what I mean.
It's just that.... unless they really stretch it, and Yuna IS performing a sending.. She's done sendings without having to walk on water, so Yuna walking on water for no reason pretty much is just... Sueish.
Ah yes, I was just pointing out other characters if others didn't take the translations officially, like I do.
@Tsukimori:
Oh wow...her sending might be the reason why Tifa, Kain, Vaan and the other new ones aren't in the Dissidia we have now. They might...die!
@Channizard:
Oh, okay.
@Tsukimori:
Oh wow...her sending might be the reason why Tifa, Kain, Vaan and the other new ones aren't in the Dissidia we have now. They might...die!
Objection: Yuna's not in it either. Will she send herself?
Hikeido
Drunken Wanderer
I like squall's alt, this is looking really good can't wait for it to come out.
Firion
Lance Combo: Increased absorb effect, able to pull in and hit enemy that's outside Rope Knife's range. Same as Reel Axe, the second part of the Brave attack could be done even the first part missed.
Emperor
Melancholia Prison: There are 3 at most to be put on the stage, ground & air versions combined. When you set the 4th, the 1st one will disappear.
Starfall: added Magic Block effect.
CoD
Fusillade Particle Beam: added wall rush effect
Cecil
Soul Eater: increased range
Exdeath
CPU performed Reverse Polarity > Hurricane combo. No further detail.
Cloud
Cross Slash: increased range. More than the reporter expect.
Meteorain (Ground): all the meteors target the enemy's current position, not just the initial position. Not sure about Air version.
Ultimecia
Knight's Spear/Lance: fast startup, close range attack. When charged, 2 large spears appear from her feet in a cross shape. Stay on the field for a while.
Zidane
Free Energy: very close range like in the DFF UT version
Booster 8: A single hit, forward rush attack. Able to win in a weapon clash with Aerial Fang, twice, therefore possibly have Melee Mid Priority (guard stagger). Faster startup than Climhazzard, but less range. Almost no after lag if hit and you can immediately combo into most, if not all, air attacks including Free Energy.
Vaan
EX mode bonus:
最強の武具 (Strongest Weapon) = Weapon's appearance changed, attack power up
Free Switch = R+[] to change to bare hands
Laguna
EX mode bonus:
妖精さんの奇跡 (Faeries' Miracle) = All attacks' after lag could be cancelled into any other attacks
Sticky Bomb (No charge): stick on opponents, explode immediately if touched walls, grounds etc.
Sticky Bomb (charged): stick on anything.
Full details in this post:
http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread...200#post204200
Lance Combo: Increased absorb effect, able to pull in and hit enemy that's outside Rope Knife's range. Same as Reel Axe, the second part of the Brave attack could be done even the first part missed.
Emperor
Melancholia Prison: There are 3 at most to be put on the stage, ground & air versions combined. When you set the 4th, the 1st one will disappear.
Starfall: added Magic Block effect.
CoD
Fusillade Particle Beam: added wall rush effect
Cecil
Soul Eater: increased range
Exdeath
CPU performed Reverse Polarity > Hurricane combo. No further detail.
Cloud
Cross Slash: increased range. More than the reporter expect.
Meteorain (Ground): all the meteors target the enemy's current position, not just the initial position. Not sure about Air version.
Ultimecia
Knight's Spear/Lance: fast startup, close range attack. When charged, 2 large spears appear from her feet in a cross shape. Stay on the field for a while.
Zidane
Free Energy: very close range like in the DFF UT version
Booster 8: A single hit, forward rush attack. Able to win in a weapon clash with Aerial Fang, twice, therefore possibly have Melee Mid Priority (guard stagger). Faster startup than Climhazzard, but less range. Almost no after lag if hit and you can immediately combo into most, if not all, air attacks including Free Energy.
Vaan
EX mode bonus:
最強の武具 (Strongest Weapon) = Weapon's appearance changed, attack power up
Free Switch = R+[] to change to bare hands
Laguna
EX mode bonus:
妖精さんの奇跡 (Faeries' Miracle) = All attacks' after lag could be cancelled into any other attacks
Sticky Bomb (No charge): stick on opponents, explode immediately if touched walls, grounds etc.
Sticky Bomb (charged): stick on anything.
Full details in this post:
http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread...200#post204200
Kaiser6012
Recruit
Laguna's shaping up to be a force to be reckoned with - continual peppering of attacks from up close and afar to keep the opponent off balance. The EX burst just keeps with the theme of keeping up the assault.
As for Vaan, I don't know what his playstyle will be... he'll probably have some defined weapon changes to accent his change bonuses, or whatever they're called. They appear to be both beneficial and detrimental - perhaps weighing the benefits of pulling out a katana vs. the added bang of hand-bombs, perhaps?
As for there being more concrete proof of Yuna, I apologise. I was not aware that proof more substantial than a single out-of-focus screenshot was present. You will, however, understand my skepticism if such proof is unpresented. Until I see more concrete evidence than a rumour and a screenshot that could've meant anything (which, by the way, I took for being a colour-saturated pic of the Chaos Shrine than anything to do with water), I will continue to operate under the "slightly substantiated rumour" theory.
On other topics, the Phantom Train (or Doom Train, depending on the source) would be an interesting stage to fight on/in, particularly if you can fight both on and in it.
Actually...
Since we've gotten a recent glut of new characters, we're still owed... 3? 2 new stages if we include Doom Train as read? This could be rather interesting, particularly if the producers have decided to go with characters for some series and stages for others. Subtracting the "balancing" additions (Sky Fortress Bahamut and Orphan's Cradle for stages, Lightning and Vaan for characters), we've got the Crystal Tower for stages (FF III) and Laguna, Tifa, Kain and (maybe) Yuna for characters. Could this mean FF I, II, V or XI will get extra stages to compensate for this imbalance? Will some get new villains to go with these new stages?
What're your thoughts? Personally, I'd love to see the Prima Vista used for combat environments like some rumours out there have suggested, as well as going into something like the Crystal Chambers from FFV (imagine if when you broke a crystal, a Void rift opened up into an appropriate sub-arena for a small while, then pulled you into a different crystal room... ah, the possibilities...)
As for Vaan, I don't know what his playstyle will be... he'll probably have some defined weapon changes to accent his change bonuses, or whatever they're called. They appear to be both beneficial and detrimental - perhaps weighing the benefits of pulling out a katana vs. the added bang of hand-bombs, perhaps?
As for there being more concrete proof of Yuna, I apologise. I was not aware that proof more substantial than a single out-of-focus screenshot was present. You will, however, understand my skepticism if such proof is unpresented. Until I see more concrete evidence than a rumour and a screenshot that could've meant anything (which, by the way, I took for being a colour-saturated pic of the Chaos Shrine than anything to do with water), I will continue to operate under the "slightly substantiated rumour" theory.
On other topics, the Phantom Train (or Doom Train, depending on the source) would be an interesting stage to fight on/in, particularly if you can fight both on and in it.
Actually...
Since we've gotten a recent glut of new characters, we're still owed... 3? 2 new stages if we include Doom Train as read? This could be rather interesting, particularly if the producers have decided to go with characters for some series and stages for others. Subtracting the "balancing" additions (Sky Fortress Bahamut and Orphan's Cradle for stages, Lightning and Vaan for characters), we've got the Crystal Tower for stages (FF III) and Laguna, Tifa, Kain and (maybe) Yuna for characters. Could this mean FF I, II, V or XI will get extra stages to compensate for this imbalance? Will some get new villains to go with these new stages?
What're your thoughts? Personally, I'd love to see the Prima Vista used for combat environments like some rumours out there have suggested, as well as going into something like the Crystal Chambers from FFV (imagine if when you broke a crystal, a Void rift opened up into an appropriate sub-arena for a small while, then pulled you into a different crystal room... ah, the possibilities...)
Firion
Swordslash: animation has not modified, but it somehow caused downward wall rush now XD
Kain
Has 3 air Brave attacks
Celestial Shooter (CS): upward attack, long reach.
Thrust Lance/Rush? (TL): forward attack, short reach.
Crash Dive (CD): downward attack.
all have 3 follow ups depends on your input (like Firion)
CS > upward wall rush (UP+O), forward chase (O), downward chase (DOWN+O)
TL > upward chase (UP+O), forward wall rush (O), downward chase (DOWN+O)
CD > upward chase (UP+O), forward chase (O), down wardwall rush (DOWN+O)
Tidus
Sphere Shot: cause guard stagger (Ranged Mid priority).
Dodge&Run (Cut&Run) AIR: has slightly vertical tracking.
CoD
Fusillade Particle Beam: CoD can move during the startup phase (like Air Innocence)
Assist Lock lasted for around 20sec.
Assist gauge was not that easy to fill up.
Ground Dash: need to stick on the ground even when locked on EX core. Makes it hard to get EX core in some stages.
Brynhildr's "attack" = Muspell Flame
WoL
Both buckler attacks in the air lost the Chase property.
Day Flash (ground&air): lost wall rush, added Chase property.
Onion Knight
has different colour aura depends on what buff you have from Power Up. Eg. STR up = red
Most attacks' after lag are reduced.
Cecil
Shadow Lance: cause Guard Crush at close range (Melee High priority).
Squall
Blasting Zone: keeps tracking the enemy until lower his blade.
Emperor
Flare: added downward wall rush.
CoD
Tentacle of Pain (the ground tentacle): greatly increased attack angle, can almost hit an enemy directly above her.
Tentacle of Hate (the new tentacle): the 3rd branch attack shoots a big slow projectile which cause guard stagger (Ranged Mid priority).
0-form Particle Beam: longer startup.
Feint Particle Beam: increased attack angle.
Exdeath
Almagest: able to cancel the startup phase into any Guard.
High Guard: will turn to face the enemy while holding the button.
Kefka
Ultima: the explosion part will now cause guard stagger too (Ranged Mid priority).
Sephiroth
Sudden Cruelty: cause less hit stun.
God Speed: reduced range.
Kuja
Flare Star: increased tracking duration.
http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread...200#post204200
Swordslash: animation has not modified, but it somehow caused downward wall rush now XD
Kain
Has 3 air Brave attacks
Celestial Shooter (CS): upward attack, long reach.
Thrust Lance/Rush? (TL): forward attack, short reach.
Crash Dive (CD): downward attack.
all have 3 follow ups depends on your input (like Firion)
CS > upward wall rush (UP+O), forward chase (O), downward chase (DOWN+O)
TL > upward chase (UP+O), forward wall rush (O), downward chase (DOWN+O)
CD > upward chase (UP+O), forward chase (O), down wardwall rush (DOWN+O)
Tidus
Sphere Shot: cause guard stagger (Ranged Mid priority).
Dodge&Run (Cut&Run) AIR: has slightly vertical tracking.
CoD
Fusillade Particle Beam: CoD can move during the startup phase (like Air Innocence)
Assist Lock lasted for around 20sec.
Assist gauge was not that easy to fill up.
Ground Dash: need to stick on the ground even when locked on EX core. Makes it hard to get EX core in some stages.
Brynhildr's "attack" = Muspell Flame
WoL
Both buckler attacks in the air lost the Chase property.
Day Flash (ground&air): lost wall rush, added Chase property.
Onion Knight
has different colour aura depends on what buff you have from Power Up. Eg. STR up = red
Most attacks' after lag are reduced.
Cecil
Shadow Lance: cause Guard Crush at close range (Melee High priority).
Squall
Blasting Zone: keeps tracking the enemy until lower his blade.
Emperor
Flare: added downward wall rush.
CoD
Tentacle of Pain (the ground tentacle): greatly increased attack angle, can almost hit an enemy directly above her.
Tentacle of Hate (the new tentacle): the 3rd branch attack shoots a big slow projectile which cause guard stagger (Ranged Mid priority).
0-form Particle Beam: longer startup.
Feint Particle Beam: increased attack angle.
Exdeath
Almagest: able to cancel the startup phase into any Guard.
High Guard: will turn to face the enemy while holding the button.
Kefka
Ultima: the explosion part will now cause guard stagger too (Ranged Mid priority).
Sephiroth
Sudden Cruelty: cause less hit stun.
God Speed: reduced range.
Kuja
Flare Star: increased tracking duration.
http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread...200#post204200
You don't know that for sure.
The translations say a barefoot person with a blue dress. Has to be Yuna...
But then I think "With Jecht good, we'll need a villain" so then I think Yuna can't be the character.
Well no technically Jecht is kinda a villian in Dissidia as he does represent the chaos side for Final Fantasy X. So Jecht as a good guy doesnt really count. He only has a little good in him anyway What about this? http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Yuna/Dissidia
What about this? http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Yuna/Dissidia
In this one, he is good. Remember in the Dissidia we have, it mentions that he was never really on the Chaos side? Or did it say he use to fight on the Cosmos side...?
He'll be good in this one and if he is, this barefoot woman might be a villain who is --
Lady Yunalesca
That site uploads information before it is even official. I wouldn't trust them. Its probably Yuna, probably not....
He'll be good in this one and if he is, this barefoot woman might be a villain who is --
Lady Yunalesca
That site uploads information before it is even official. I wouldn't trust them. Its probably Yuna, probably not....
You don't know that for sure.
The translations say a barefoot person with a blue dress. Has to be Yuna...
But then I think "With Jecht good, we'll need a villain" so then I think Yuna can't be the character.
No, I meant.. she's not in the last Dissidia either with all the others. So if she's sending people, does she send herself when she dies? That doesn't make sense.
I love when people get so ahead of themselves like that. Next month it's gonna be "OMG A SLEEVELESS ARM. IT MUST BE BEATRIX"
Oh, I see now xD
Well, maybe. Or maybe she jumps in the water and disappears like Tidus does in the last Dissidia...?
Oh snap, I would totally say a sleeveless arm could be Beatrix, but then again, I'd wait until many people started say "Beatrix" was in it.... :/
Hey, its possible! Every one said Vaan would not be in this game despite everything that popped up, and look what happened, Vaan is in the game.
Remember they are going to be picking the most popular FF characters, Yuna is among the most popular.
If she is in the game, I just wonder how she'll be playable. Going by this barefeet/blue kimono footage, she'll be her FFX summoner-self.
So, what? Would she just stand in one place and have summons doing the actual fighting? How would that work with the summons already in the game? I know she has white magic, and has the potential for black magic, but if she would be a magic user, Lulu would've been a more obvious choice
Furthermore, I think we all agree her alt. costume would be her gunner-self from FFX-2, but then would that have any physical impact in gameplay where she would be controllable in battle, or just for the sake of looking that way?
So, what? Would she just stand in one place and have summons doing the actual fighting? How would that work with the summons already in the game? I know she has white magic, and has the potential for black magic, but if she would be a magic user, Lulu would've been a more obvious choice
Furthermore, I think we all agree her alt. costume would be her gunner-self from FFX-2, but then would that have any physical impact in gameplay where she would be controllable in battle, or just for the sake of looking that way?