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Chance,
Look. In regards to substance, your statement indeed has a connection. But in terms of logic, you have not made the connection with your original statement. Any grade school kid can grasps the logic of someone who gives a simple statement: “I also don't see it being love since Tifa asked Cloud this question do you love me? --- Cloud to Tifa” You do not need to break it down for me as if I can’t grasp it. Your logic from the original statement involved accepting the idea that two people can't love each other because of a single dialogue question. It does not involve your going on about whether or not Tifa’s asking the same questions “we’ve all been asking.” By going on with that, you’re simply justifying your reasons for stating your logic (which is ot anwering my question), but you’re not explaining what your logic is at all. Which is something I had originally asked for [since you said my original assumption of your logic is incorrect, else I really don't need to ask]. It’s actually kinda silly that I have to tell you this.
In case you're confused, this is our back and forth convo regarding this logic thing.
Note. The underlined quote. It seems you've been ignoring the logic of your own statement and confused my inquiry of "what's your logic" to be "why did you say that?".
Funny. This exchanging back and forth brings up nothing new. My first post on this thread could have sufficed. *shrug*
I can even repost it. I’m telling ya. We’re going in circles. Hence. Most probably I won’t reply to your comments if it does not involve the LTD evidence. IMO, everything else is sidetracking. My opinion.
It was a rhetorical question really. I guess you don’t see the connection I was trying to make regarding the words “ mutual feelings.” Your comments seem to suggest that you believe Cloud cares for no one since you’re not backing any side with proofs. I guess like someone mentioned, I don’t know exactly what your stance is. Although you claim that this whole ordeal is opened to interpretation.
Okay. This is for anyone. Can anyone tell me why Cloud was able to hear Tifa’s voice in his heart and vice versa? [Confirmed in the Highwind Scene in both the low and high version]
That is really interesting seeing that I basically said the same thing, just made it longer. Here, let me brake it down for you:
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Do you love me? == she's asking the same question we've all been asking. Answers that was supposed to have been established by you guys.“I also don't see it being love since Tifa asked Cloud this question == Now Id like to know if the answers have truly been given by you guys. Until then, I don't see why it has to be love in that so called mutual relationship until you guys provide something concrete for it.
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Do you now see the connection?
Look. In regards to substance, your statement indeed has a connection. But in terms of logic, you have not made the connection with your original statement. Any grade school kid can grasps the logic of someone who gives a simple statement: “I also don't see it being love since Tifa asked Cloud this question do you love me? --- Cloud to Tifa” You do not need to break it down for me as if I can’t grasp it. Your logic from the original statement involved accepting the idea that two people can't love each other because of a single dialogue question. It does not involve your going on about whether or not Tifa’s asking the same questions “we’ve all been asking.” By going on with that, you’re simply justifying your reasons for stating your logic (which is ot anwering my question), but you’re not explaining what your logic is at all. Which is something I had originally asked for [since you said my original assumption of your logic is incorrect, else I really don't need to ask]. It’s actually kinda silly that I have to tell you this.
In case you're confused, this is our back and forth convo regarding this logic thing.
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YOU: I really wouldn't know, that is the mystery of that qoute that was suppose to prove that Cloud and Tifa are a couple. I also don't see it being love since Tifa asked Cloud this question:
Do you love me? --- Cloud to Tifa
Guess it's open to interpretation eh?
ME: It's really not a mystery. By your logic, anyone can easily fall out of love simply because they ask that question: do you love me? By your logic, if my girlfriend of two years questions my love for her (because I’ve been emo and it worried her) then it automatically meant that our relationship was not established out of love.
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YOU: Who says that was my logic? I don't even know if one of them were in love iin the first place.... I think you guys were suppose to prove that.
ME: Uhh. What is your logic then when you say: “I also don't see it being love since Tifa asked Cloud this question:Do you love me? --- Cloud to Tifa”
So what is your logic?
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YOU: My logic is simple, she's asking the same question we've all been asking. Answers that was supposed to have been established by you guys. Now Id like to know if the answers have truly been given by you guys. Until then, I don't see why it has to be love in that so called mutual relationship until you guys provide something concrete for it.
ME: This logic of yours NOW, makes no connection to the statement I was referring to. “I also don't see it being love since Tifa asked Cloud this question:
Do you love me? --- Cloud to Tifa”
Note. The underlined quote. It seems you've been ignoring the logic of your own statement and confused my inquiry of "what's your logic" to be "why did you say that?".
Really? Nobody asked you to jump on Ryu’s anecdotal evidence. I still stand by what I had originally said. If you can downplay Ryu’s argument because it is based on anecdotal evidence, then you can downplay Alantie’s argument because hers is based on, even worse, just an ideal generalization.Well if you think I'm supposed to jump on other people's argument without any definite idea of what's going on behind every single statements they make. Well sure, it's not like I'm that busy with my own arguments here. I applaude the person who can do that. Yea...really..
Funny. This exchanging back and forth brings up nothing new. My first post on this thread could have sufficed. *shrug*
I can even repost it. I’m telling ya. We’re going in circles. Hence. Most probably I won’t reply to your comments if it does not involve the LTD evidence. IMO, everything else is sidetracking. My opinion.
Okay. Silly that we have to address this again. You said that you have been tackling real arguments. I haven’t seen it. Sorry. And it’s not just about you not addressing the short list. The thing is. I haven’t seen you tackling any arguments at all. Hence, the reason I directed you to the short list so I might actually see you breaking down everything mentioned as unworthy to be proofs. But I guess that won’t happen.No one is doing that. What are YOU talking about? Are you saying I'm "sidetracking" because I haven't been tackling this "short list" even though no one actually told me to?
They're FF8 and FFX. None of those couples declared “I love you” but no one is claiming they’re open-ended like they are here.Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were referring to CXT and CXA, are those characters from other FF games? Cus Ive only played FF7 really. What games are they on?
Why are you making me ask em? You ask em, it's not my proof.
It was a rhetorical question really. I guess you don’t see the connection I was trying to make regarding the words “ mutual feelings.” Your comments seem to suggest that you believe Cloud cares for no one since you’re not backing any side with proofs. I guess like someone mentioned, I don’t know exactly what your stance is. Although you claim that this whole ordeal is opened to interpretation.
Unfortunately. I do mind. It’s not my job to negotiate people into debating. I just wonder why you’re here in a debate thread to debate and won’t debate because no one has formally asked you to.If you don't mind, I'd like my small request to be granted first.
My request Lonestar.It'd be really nice to just hear you say "please" instead of expecting people to pay attention to a short list (that was directed to someone else in another argument) by telling them they're "sidetracking".
Okay. This is for anyone. Can anyone tell me why Cloud was able to hear Tifa’s voice in his heart and vice versa? [Confirmed in the Highwind Scene in both the low and high version]
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