Healing from a stab wound.....

Because it wasn't an in-game battle.And Sephiroth's stab was more severe and deadly.

If he would be such an easy opponent why fight him in the end?
 
I think its cause the random battles are not really apart of the story, persay, or they happen, just the attacks arent leathel. Where as the Sepheroth attack was apart of the plot line :)
 
shadow of SeeD said:
quick question: if it killed aeris, why didn't it kill tifa? if you think back to cloud's flashback, tifa was also stabbed by seph (seph hates me)
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Well if you wanna add on and ask that, then let me add on to it as well. Why didnt it kill Cloud in the Nibelheim reactor? Cloud gets it driven through him and all that happens is he throws Sephiroth off the side. Clouds was pretty much the same as Aerith when she got stabbed. Granted Sephiroth had some velocity from coming down from nowhere, but still the same wound area.
 
Some of it could just be plot inconsistancies. I'm pretty sure that the Nieblhiem incident was added later during the production of the game.

I once read a theory that Sephiroth's masamune was a holy sword and it would kill everything it touches. Well ok, so it didn't kill Cloud, Zack, Tifa, or Tseng (according to AC). But perhaps it instantly kills anyone it completely pierces?

This theory also explained why there was no blood during Aerith's death.

Also, if we disregard that theory, it did completely pierce her and most likely tore some major organs. But with everyone else it only seemed to swipe them.
 
Rydia said:
Some of it could just be plot inconsistancies. I'm pretty sure that the Nieblhiem incident was added later during the production of the game.

I once read a theory that Sephiroth's masamune was a holy sword and it would kill everything it touches. Well ok, so it didn't kill Cloud, Zack, Tifa, or Tseng (according to AC). But perhaps it instantly kills anyone it completely pierces?

This theory also explained why there was no blood during Aerith's death.

Also, if we disregard that theory, it did completely pierce her and most likely tore some major organs. But with everyone else it only seemed to swipe them.
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I admit, that theory would probably work under different circumstances. I mean, there is an actual legend that states that the Masamune is a holy sword and that it doesn't draw blood from someone who is righteous/pure of heart. However, the fact remains that, in the Nibelheim Reactor, the sword completely pierces Cloud, yet he survives the incident. Within the FFVII Universe, the Masamune just seems to be a normal sword. It probably killed Aerith because he pierced one of her vital organs, whereas, when Sephiroth stabbed Cloud, he just happened to miss his. As for the blood...You have to remember that this was a PSX RPG. First off, they probably wanted to keep the game's rating down to T. Graphical limitations probably had a lot to do with it, as well.

It's pretty much an established rule when it comes to JRPGs that Gameplay=/=Storyline. You can't honestly believe that Cloud and co. can survive multiple Super Novas when, in Advent Children, Cloud was put in a state of near-death for over a day when Loz and Yazoo hit him with that explosion. There's really no other explanation. Think about it. That means that even Cait Sith (a doll) and Barret (a normal human) are capable of withstanding several direct hits from a Super Nova. The same can be said for pretty much any RPG character. In Gameplay, it's true that the party appears to survive being stabbed, burned, zapped, frozen, and crushed by giant monsters, but as far as the storyline is concerned, they just dodged or blocked most of those attacks. However, Sephiroth's Masamune really did pierce Aerith in the storyline, so she took actual damage from it.
 
The_Oathkeeper said:
I admit, that theory would probably work under different circumstances. I mean, there is an actual legend that states that the Masamune is a holy sword and that it doesn't draw blood from someone who is righteous/pure of heart. However, the fact remains that, in the Nibelheim Reactor, the sword completely pierces Cloud, yet he survives the incident. Within the FFVII Universe, the Masamune just seems to be a normal sword. It probably killed Aerith because he pierced one of her vital organs, whereas, when Sephiroth stabbed Cloud, he just happened to miss his. As for the blood...You have to remember that this was a PSX RPG. First off, they probably wanted to keep the game's rating down to T. Graphical limitations probably had a lot to do with it, as well.

It's pretty much an established rule when it comes to JRPGs that Gameplay=/=Storyline. You can't honestly believe that Cloud and co. can survive multiple Super Novas when, in Advent Children, Cloud was put in a state of near-death for over a day when Loz and Yazoo hit him with that explosion. There's really no other explanation. Think about it. That means that even Cait Sith (a doll) and Barret (a normal human) are capable of withstanding several direct hits from a Super Nova. The same can be said for pretty much any RPG character. In Gameplay, it's true that the party appears to survive being stabbed, burned, zapped, frozen, and crushed by giant monsters, but as far as the storyline is concerned, they just dodged or blocked most of those attacks. However, Sephiroth's Masamune really did pierce Aerith in the storyline, so she took actual damage from it.
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At the end of FF7 though, after Cloud uses omnislash, Sephiroth is covered in blood. Yes random battles do not really have anything to do with the story line, they are just there to give the player something to do and to level up your characters.
 
Also, keep in mind that Cloud was more resistant to the stab wound than Aerith was because of the mako in his system, same with Zack. Also Aerith is tiny. If a sword went through my body like that, I'd instantly be dead as well. Aerith wasn't infused with mako like Cloud and Zack were. Tifa was only sliced across the chest, she wasn't actually stabbed with Sephiroth's sword like the other two. Just wanted to point those few things out. Oh and about the blood, in Crisis Core, there is blood. I think it's just because of how different the graphics were back then to now.
 
Actually, Sayuri, when Cloud was stabbed at the Nibelheim Reactor, he didn't have any Mako in his system. Hojo didn't test out his Reunion Theory on Cloud and Zack until after the Nibelheim incident, so I don't think the Mako would've had any substantial effect on Cloud's recovery from the stab wound. However, the fact remains, Cloud was still a well-built young man, whereas Aerith was a petite flower girl. Even if Cloud hadn't been enhanced by Mako yet, he did say that, physically speaking, he was qualified to enter SOLDIER, so he was obviously in very good shape for a normal human being. Meanwhile, Aerith never displayed any physical abilities above those of the average girl her age, so it's pretty reasonable to assume that she's not quite as durable as Cloud. As for Tifa...yeah, she wasn't stabbed, she was just slashed across the chest. For all we know, the wound really wasn't that deep.

On the subject of the blood...I don't really know why there wasn't any blood. It would've been a bit more graphic to show Aerith getting impaled than it was to show Sephiroth with a bit of blood on his forehead, though, so I think they just intended for us to suspend our disbelief. Besides, I somehow doubt that Sephiroth is wielding a sword that's incapable of drawing blood, especially considering it can be seen with blood on it in some of his concept art.
 
Spephiroth's blood at the end looked more like ketchup to me. Perhaps Nomura and the graphics crew had trouble animating blood on Aerith because of the angle of the scene/where she was stabbed.

However, the fact remains, Cloud was still a well-built young man, whereas Aerith was a petite flower girl. Even if Cloud hadn't been enhanced by Mako yet, he did say that, physically speaking, he was qualified to enter SOLDIER, so he was obviously in very good shape for a normal human being.
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Actually, Cloud had always been a rather weak man, until he had gotten infused with Mako. And Cloud had an identity crisis that made him think that he was an Ex-SOLDIER, while in reality, he was a mere grunt in the ShinRa army. But I won't deny that he was likely stronger than Aerith; she's just a fragile flower girl, and plus, as you said, Sephiroth probably managed to stab Aerith in a weak spot.
 
The_Oathkeeper said:
Actually, Sayuri, when Cloud was stabbed at the Nibelheim Reactor, he didn't have any Mako in his system.
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Are you sure? I thought the reason that Cloud wasn't accepted in SOLIDER was because he couldn't handle the mako? I thought he'd been subjected to it to see if he was cut out for SOLDIER. My bad *shrugs*
 
Actually, the SOLDIER Treatment can only be given to people who are strong both physically and mentally. You see, if the proceedure is performed on someone who isn't strong enough for it, they become lifeless puppets utterly submitted to JENOVA's will, much like the Sephiroth Copies you see throughout Final Fantasy VII, who were basically the end result of performing the SOLDIER Treatment on random people instead of testing them beforehand to see if they were adequate. In fact, we see first-hand what happens when a weak-minded person is subject to the SOLDIER Treatment at the end of Crisis Core where
Cloud is basically rendered legally retarded and loses the vast majority of his motor skills
. He only recovered because he ran into Tifa in Midgar, which couldn't possibly have happened at any time before the Nibelheim Incident.

So, yeah, Cloud would've been quite dead by now if he'd been given the SOLDIER Treatment when he first applied.
 
i always imagined when i played my first ff (IX) that when steiner attacked he just made a cut in the body of the fiend. aerith was completely trespassed so she had no way to survie( maybe its follishness)
 
*hehe Ive thought about this and debated it with friends too :)

*I guess if you look at it at a game perspective Aerith shouldnt even be dead cause she can be revived by a pheonix down or a life magic right!?

*but the creators just made the story interesting by having such an important character who would have been a great boost in the future, die in a coolest manner by Lord Sephiroth! :D

*weeeeeee :D :D
 
(SPOILER DONT READ IF HAVENT PLAYED CRISIS CORE) Lol good question, well,Sephiroths sword is super loaded with Mako, and if you played Crisis Core you see cloud almost dies from the mako addiction after he gets stabbed by Sephiroth.SO yea your party gets completely decimated by little fire wolfs and all that, but you gotta think its the future and they have pheonix downs and armor. Pheonix downs just can't cure mako addiction/poisoning, its meant for wounds not for chemically altered life stream juice.
 
ok i've read the entire topic!

Cloud was in a Berserk kind of state when he atacked sephiroth in the reactor at nibelheim and thus he was so angry and didnt care what happened to himself as long as he got revenge for tifa (this chages to aeris in ffvii game)

aeris on the other hand was in a meditative state of mind and heard nothing (cloud shouts to her) she was praying for HOLY the materia to save the world (sort of thing)
she dies because she is stabbed and doesnt have the will to survive because she is finishing off her prayer thus she dies

this should explain it i have come to this conclusion after years of pondering this ( i actually cried when i saw aeris die it broke my heart i loved her)

anyways so that should sort that out

Cloud
 
Maybe meta had a special effect on the Cetra in this game...?

Actually, in battles mostly the slashes are superficial. Sure it's a Fantasy game so a player can take slashes al day and just heal with an Elixir or Potion. However, we see Aeris get stabbed right through and she bites the dust.

Sephiroth was also stabbed through near the Mako reactor, but he fell into the Lifestream which healed him and he ended up at the Northern Cave.
 
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