Is it okay for a man to ever hit a woman?

[ryanphoenix]

I said "Maybe if they deserve", in the sense that if the situation were to dictate that it's ok for a guy to punch a guy, then I don't believe it should be treated differently for a guy to hit a girl under the same circumstances. Would I ever do it? No, but I'm not a violent person to begin with. I also think that other factors would need to be considered, such as the size of the guy vs the size of the woman. I don't think a body builder should deck a size -5 model in the face (whichever gender takes which role, you can decide ).

Either way, it's a touchy subject, but that is my two cents on it.

 

[Rowan777]

You're really asking 2 questions there. If a man treats a woman differently to how he would treat a man in any circumstance, that would be viewed as sexist. If a man was violent toward me, I would definitely do my best at restraining him, which would include perhaps hitting in order to subdue him. If a man hits a women in self defense, the scenario being that the women is violent and uncontrollable, I dont see how it should matter her sex. If you take into consideration criminal charges, violence towards women is looked upon more harshly under any circumstance. Society will have you believe that women are weaker, prone to physical/mental abuse, financially incapable of supporting themselves (as per divorce laws); among other things.

Do I personally think its morally wrong to hit a women? Well that all depends on the circumstances. You must present a scenario for us to debate over. I would believe that there would be circumstances where it would be morally wrong NOT to strike a female if it was absolutely essential.

 

[Shinra Executive]

Violence should be avoided in general unless the prospects outdo not doing so. If it doesn't seem worth it, it probably isn't.

However, on the subject of a man hitting a woman specifically:
Where did the notion come from that a man should never under any circumstances hit a woman? When you think about it, it has no rational construct. Hitting a person is due to the intent of harming them, and a woman is going to feel no more pain then a man.
Since this invention, women have only gotten ballsier, pushing and pushing because they know they will not get hit. That is the product of this invention. No doubt, it probably has come about due to feminism- men have become overly obligated to cater to women, and so hitting them becomes disbanded.

 

[Sheechiibii]

Violence should be avoided in general unless the prospects outdo not doing so. If it doesn't seem worth it, it probably isn't.

However, on the subject of a man hitting a woman specifically:
Where did the notion come from that a man should never under any circumstances hit a woman? When you think about it, it has no rational construct. Hitting a person is due to the intent of harming them, and a woman is going to feel no more pain then a man.
Since this invention, women have only gotten ballsier, pushing and pushing because they know they will not get hit. That is the product of this invention. No doubt, it probably has come about due to feminism- men have become overly obligated to cater to women, and so hitting them becomes disbanded.

The notion comes from the fact that men are much stronger physically than women, if a man was to hit a woman with his full strength and she were to hit back with her full strength, his would be a lot stronger and do a lot more damage to her, than what she could do to him. Women generally cannot physically defend themselves in a fight against a man because the fact is they are weaker.

As for feminism, you've got that all wrong. Men used to be expected to cater to women, feminism urges men to let women be equal and able to cater to themselves. o it's pretty much the exact opposite of what you seem to think.

 

[Shinra Executive]

The notion comes from the fact that men are much stronger physically than women, if a man was to hit a woman with his full strength and she were to hit back with her full strength, his would be a lot stronger and do a lot more damage to her, than what she could do to him. Women generally cannot physically defend themselves in a fight against a man because the fact is they are weaker.

As for feminism, you've got that all wrong. Men used to be expected to cater to women, feminism urges men to let women be equal and able to cater to themselves. o it's pretty much the exact opposite of what you seem to think.

But the point of hitting someone is to for them to hit back, it is to harm them. What a woman can or can't do doesn't matter- a man doesn't hit another man with the intent of not harming the person or being harmed in return.
A big guy could knock out a small guy, and even though it is exactly proportional to a man hitting a girl, people won't squeam about it the same way they would if a girl gets hit.
There is an obvious conflict of interest with that, seen directly from that observation.

And, there are different forms of feminism. You say that I have it wrong, but really you are just comparing one form to another in stating that. Feminism can be women symbolically growing a pair, or it can be enthusiasm for feminist things and notions.
Almost all women have become feminist in their philosophies, and because Adam is weak for Eve, he conforms to nonsense such as a girl should never get hit.. even when they deserve it and even when it gets long passed the point where women lose their damn minds and actually start to hit men both emotionally and physically>< He eventually slaps the bitch and ends up in jail., labeled as a wife beater.
Supreme conflict of interest_ you have it wrong. In fact, it's those such as you who started and perpetuate this hypocrisy.

 

[Sheechiibii]

But the point of hitting someone is to for them to hit back, it is to harm them. What a woman can or can't do doesn't matter- a man doesn't hit another man with the intent of not harming the person or being harmed in return.
A big guy could knock out a small guy, and even though it is exactly proportional to a man hitting a girl, people won't squeam about it the same way they would if a girl gets hit.
There is an obvious conflict of interest with that, seen directly from that observation.

And, there are different forms of feminism. You say that I have it wrong, but really you are just comparing one form to another in stating that. Feminism can be women symbolically growing a pair, or it can be enthusiasm for feminist things and notions.
Almost all women have become feminist in their philosophies, and because Adam is weak for Eve, he conforms to nonsense such as a girl should never get hit.. even when they deserve it and even when it gets long passed the point where women lose their damn minds and actually start to hit men both emotionally and physically>< He eventually slaps the bitch and ends up in jail., labeled as a wife beater.
Supreme conflict of interest_ you have it wrong. In fact, it's those such as you who started and perpetuate this hypocrisy.

I agree, but that's where the notion comes from. It comes from men being physically stronger than women, so women would not be able to defend herself. Doesn't mean I agree that men should never hit women. I think people shouldn't hit people unless there's good reason at all, regardless of gender, but you did ask where the notion came from so there it is

Well there are women who are feminist and there are women who pretend to be feminist but actually aren't. A woman who expects special treatment from men is no more feminist than a guy who thinks women are nothing but sexual objects. Those women are in fact sexist, they're not feminist at all. Sadly these days most women like to pretend they are feminists even if they are blatantly not, hence why the meaning of feminism gets skewed.

What do you mean 'those such as you'? There is no hypocrisy in what I've said, if you've read it that way then you've misunderstood me.

 

[Shinra Executive]

I agree, but that's where the notion comes from. It comes from men being physically stronger than women, so women would not be able to defend herself. Doesn't mean I agree that men should never hit women. I think people shouldn't hit people unless there's good reason at all, regardless of gender, but you did ask where the notion came from so there it is

But don't you find it suspicious that this is a new age thing, now that ultra-liberalism and specialty groups are as common as an old shoe?

Well there are women who are feminist and there are women who pretend to be feminist but actually aren't. A woman who expects special treatment from men is no more feminist than a guy who thinks women are nothing but sexual objects. Those women are in fact sexist, they're not feminist at all. Sadly these days most women like to pretend they are feminists even if they are blatantly not, hence why the meaning of feminism gets skewed.

I don't really agree with this. In the same way there are different beliefs within a same religion, so to are there different beliefs in feminism. Not all feminists strive for women militancy. Some simply labor under subtle notions such as what it is to be a Christian women, while others are flat out 'turn everything pink'.
I don't believe there can be only one form of feminism anymore then any other belief system.

What do you mean 'those such as you'? There is no hypocrisy in what I've said, if you've read it that way then you've misunderstood me.

I apologize- with most people, it's usually immanent opposition on the subject because, well, that is what society in general has conformed to

 

[Sheechiibii]

But don't you find it suspicious that this is a new age thing, now that ultra-liberalism and specialty groups are as common as an old shoe?

I don't really agree with this. In the same way there are different beliefs within a same religion, so to are there different beliefs in feminism. Not all feminists strive for women militancy. Some simply labor under subtle notions such as what it is to be a Christian women, while others are flat out 'turn everything pink'.
I don't believe there can be only one form of feminism anymore then any other belief system.

I apologize- with most people, it's usually immanent opposition on the subject because, well, that is what society in general has conformed to

I don't think the thing about hitting women is a new age thing. I know more elderly people who talk like that than younger people. It's certainly been around since well before I was born.

It's not militancy, it's equality. Feminism isn't anything like a religion, it's just women asking to be considered equal to men, to be treated as equals and to be considered as worthy as them in all walks of life, and not treated differently just because she has a vagina. Like the fight against racism or homophobia, feminism is the fight against sexism. That's what feminism actually is. There are some women who want feminism, but still want men to treat her like a princess, pay for her and support her, while she does nothing for him in return. They want to be equal when it suits them, and unequal when it suits them also, so they're not actually feminist.

 

[Cardinal Copia]

Men should NEVER hit women, and women should NEVER hit men. Physical abuse is physical abuse. Period. It doesn't matter which sex throws a punch, its the same basic principle of being wrong.

 

[Miasma Dragon]

Should any human ever hit another human? The answer is no, regardless of gender. But should you decide to get in my way with the intent of doing violence I'm hitting you back, no matter your gender/sexuality. (The idea anyone shouldn't be hit for being defenseless is itself irrelevant; the intent to do violence is inexcusable.)