The Spoon that killed FFVIII { still editing !}

[Starships]

The Spoon that killed FFVIII

Years ago, Final Fantasy 8 used to be quite well respected within the Final Fantasy fanbase and while it didn't gain the success that FFX and FF VII did, it was quite well liked and loved within the FF fandom.

Fast- Forward to today and FF8 is that game underdog game that it usually dissed, insulted upon and get threads about how awful and how terrible the game is, and fans saying that it's their least favorite Final Fantasy game in the whole entire series.

But why ? I believe that it's because of Spoony's review that was made in about 2009ish. Ever since then FF VIII has been gaining hate and massive dislike and no longer claimed as one of the best and most liked Final Fantasy games out there, but instead one of the worse.

However Spoony's review has tons and tons of errors and faults and tons of mistakes. It's not even a good or funny review- it's one of the most overated poop within our history of the world; I'm not kidding with you.

The first parts of the review he complains that the words "why " and " I' ll be waiting for you, I promise " flash across the screen. Spoony shouts out that it doesn't make sense and he doesn't even know why it's happening. If Spoony had actually studied FF VIII he would of know that the words that flash across the opening FMV reflect Squall's promise to Rinoa that he'll protect her from her fears later on in the game.


Then Spoony rants about the Junction and Drawing System which is is a main fault within his review on why FF8 is so bad, Spoony claims that FF8 makes you sit down and downright forces you to draw 100 magic of each spell which is completely wrong and not true at all.

Spoony cries about the oh-so-terrible Junction and drawing system being awful and dreadful for about 3 videos which is a complete waste of time. Spoony might of well made a silly video with pictures of Spongebob Squarepants ripping his pants and Vegeta from DBZ screaming " It's over nine thousand " ! Because they're just pointless dribble because the mistake that he had already made in the first review.
In fact all of this reviews about why FF8 is so damn bad are all completely pointless because he keeps on making stupid mistakes and dumb jokes that you'll think a 12 year old Middle Schooler made up instead. Spoony then claims that Squall is the worse Final Fantasy hero and FF VIII is even more of a stupid game because Squall doesn't spend the night having sex with his "hawt " Teacher Quistis Trepe. That's right folks ! Vaan isn't the worse Final Fantasy hero ever made, it's Squall ! Why ? Because he didn't have sex with Quistis. Oh my Glob.

The next part is Spoony giving the listener emo jokes that you'll think that a 12 year old Middle Schooler came up with instead. " SQUALLZ IS SO EMO HE MUST LISTEN TO CHEMICAL ROMANCE 1OLZ88 " !!
Yeah, not funny. Not even in the slightest. Then he makes more mistakes like Seifer being the main badguy of the series and not Ulti.

Then the 5th and 6th parts are Spoony ranting on Laguna and Ward. Ward because he has to throw his weapon and then grab it back and the monsters let him, somebody forgot to tell Spoony that this game is called Final FANTASY.
Laguna gets dissed because he likes to listen to Julia play on her piano at the local pub, I don't see what's so wrong with that and then he makes " Oh Laguna must of crapped his pants " jokes because Laguna gets a numb leg from being embarrassed in front of his crush. Again more 7 year old jokes.

I didn't watch the rest of his videos on why FF VIII because I already got the picture that he doesn't even know what game he's really dissing and making out to be so bad in the first place and lame terrible immature jokes.


My point is that I'm trying to get across that this review has killed Final Fantasy VIII for all the wrong reasons, the review is AWFUL and I'm positive that a actual 12 year old middle school student could do better than what Spoony has actually done.

Yet people call this review good and solid and has good reasons on why FF8 is so "awful " yet it's not at all. FF Fans and non- FF Fans have jumped on the " FF8 sucks " bandwagon for all the wrong reasons, from a poorly written review that makes terrible mistakes and jokes that belong on a new episode of The Simpsons.

The spoon that killed Final Fantasy VIII is rusty and broken. Final Fantasy VIII needs a massive Phoenix Down .

People really need to replay Final Fantasy VIII and gain their OWN judgement on this game and not from this DREADFUL review. If you hate FF8 because of this review then I'm sorry but you're a fool, you're silly.

Because this review that Spoony has made is just junk, silly junk. It's not funny and it makes countless mistakes. Final Fantasy fans need to pick up FF8 and rely on their own judgement and decide whether FF VIII is good or bad on their OWN terms and not this horrible, overated review.

 

[Rorolina Frixell]

That's largely because, if I recall correctly he formed the review from the viewpoint of a first time gamer. If memory serves that was his first experience playing FF8

And while the game doesn't force you to draw 100 magic of each spell, you're going to be severely disadvantaged if you don't, as most players would agree I expect. The fact he illustrated so much focus on drawing and junction was probably because he had so much to say in regards to them both, his video where he's just drawing magic for the entire time was made for deliberate intent to show just how tedius it can be to first time players who won't use card mod and item mods.

And tbh, people are allowed to like and dislike whatever they want, people disliked FF8 before Spoony entered the picture.

 

[Starships]

That's largely because, if I recall correctly he formed the review from the viewpoint of a first time gamer. If memory serves that was his first experience playing FF8 .

Why didn't you let me complete the first post ? I was having trouble with my computer ! Spoony didn't say that at the beginning of the review and why the hell would you call Final Fantasy VIII bad when you haven't played it yet ? He was already ranting about how terrible the game is before even getting into the depths of his overated review

And while the game doesn't force you to draw 100 magic of each spell, you're going to be severely disadvantaged if you don't, as most players would agree I expect. The fact he illustrated so much focus on drawing and junction was probably because he had so much to say in regards to them both, his video where he's just drawing magic for the entire time was made for deliberate intent to show just how tedius it can be to first time players who won't use card mod and item mods..

No you don't. You can only draw a 100 spells of certain magic and you don't HAVE to draw 100 magic of EACH spell. You'll need something for strength, speed and magic stats and that's about it. A couple of hastes, ultis, and flares usually do the trick. Actually most of the magic you'll need you can mostly get from cards and not drawing at all. Drawing is not dull if you do it right.

Plus end game bosses usually take away your draws so if you're been drawing 100 fires just because then you're wasting your time.

And it's not really out that dull for first time players because everybody is different. From my own experience I found it really surpising and shocking from what was the battle system from FF VII and FF IX.

Spoony saying that all first timers are going to have a dull time drawing magic because he just did is exteremly self- centered.

And tbh, people are allowed to like and dislike whatever they want, people disliked FF8 before Spoony entered the picture.

I realize this. The point is if you would of let me end the first post instead of jumping gun is that this review is terrible and you shouldn't let your cloud your judgement on FF VIII and you should make your own judgement instead; and the review is unfunny junk.

 

[Shaissa]

To hate a game cause of a review is retarded I agree, but I am going to say this.
People that don't like FFVIII do not like it because of some of the things this person has said in his/her review (I didn't watch it just going take your word on it.)
The Junction system is probably one of the more argued "level up" systems in a FF game (right next to FFII "level up" system), It wasn't the normal you level up and your strength speed Hp and all that jazz just level up. You have to do the nice draw stuff, then you have to also Level up your GF's and then you can equip them to your HP, strength ect. If you have a GF that has learned that ability. I understand that people do not like this system and it is ok to not like it.

As far as him dissing on the opening movie... Yes for a first time player, it is weird to see these words and all the events in FFVIII right away when you have not yet played the game, so you have no idea who is who or whats going on in the opening AMV, which can be a little annoying I understand.

Sadly, Squall has been talked about as being "emo" which people do find a bit annoying, him pretending not to care about anything but himself, wearing all the black, trying not to show any emotions till like the second or third disk, we get it, he had a rough child hood, can he have a little more emotions?

As far as him complaining about Laguna and Kiros and etc etc, this part I will say, that it is ATB system, people that play this game back then never cared about that.


So don't get me wrong I love FFVIII, I like the junction system, I like the story, I like Squall, But I can easily see how some of the things that Spoony talked about can make a person hate FFVIII.

Do I think that people that never played the game should look at this review and say the game sucks? Course not, but for someone to not like these things I can easily understand.
like I said I never watched the review so as far as him ranting and making poop jokes go, I will take your word in it being annoying.
In the end, You have to remember it is a review, and if people let a review decide if they like a game or not, then I am sorry but they are missing out on a good game in my opinion.

In the end... That Spoony Bard shall be a Spoony Bard!

 

[Rorolina Frixell]

Why didn't you let me complete the first post ? I was having trouble with my computer ! Spoony didn't say that at the beginning of the review and why the hell would you call Final Fantasy VIII bad when you haven't played it yet ? He was already ranting about how terrible the game is before even getting into the depths of his overated review

I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere that he hadn't played the game before, but since I imagine the voicing over game video he would have already had an impression prior to said voice over

No you don't

. You can only draw a 100 spells of certain magic and you don't HAVE to draw 100 magic of EACH spell. You'll need something for strength, speed and magic stats and that's about it. A couple of hastes, ultis, and flares usually do the trick. Actually most of the magic you'll need you can mostly get from cards and not drawing at all. Drawing is not dull if you do it right.

You can draw 100 of any spell, there's no cap other than 100, and to get the full potency, as i'm sure most FF8 players will agree, you'll want the full 100, especially when it comes to element/status junction

And like I said, since it's his first run he wouldn't be using those as much as drawing, he even said as much in one of his review videos that he's aware of the other methods and was simply illustrating the tedium of the primary Draw system

Plus end game bosses usually take away your draws so if you're been drawing 100 fires just because then you're wasting your time.

i'd hardly call it a waste considering how long it takes to get to said end boss, you upgrade your spells as the game proceeds, I doubt you'll still have a 100 fire junction by the time you hit Ultimecia

And it's not really out that dull for first time players because everybody is different. From my own experience I found it really surpising and shocking from what was the battle system from FF VII and FF IX.

That's why it's a review, it's his own opinion, nobody's is truly correct aside from for that person.

Spoony saying that all first timers are going to have a dull time drawing magic because he just did is exteremly self- centered.

Again, it's his opinion

I realize this

. The point is if you would of let me end the first post instead of jumping gun is that this review is terrible and you shouldn't let your cloud your judgement on FF VIII and you should make your own judgement instead; and the review is unfunny junk.

That's all your opinion, i'm sure if he sung FF8's praises from the rooftops you'd be speaking differently

 

[Exoskeleton]

I really am not getting the vibe that everyone dislikes this FF. O__O What you described sounded like a case of people just jumping along on the bandwagon because of that review. Everyone''s got an FF they don't like but I don't think one review by a guy I've rarely even known diminishes the respect FFVIII has throughout the whole of the FF community. Anyone who bothers to dissect many ff games may find something they don't like, for example I and some of my friends were pissed at FFVII for not giving us much info on where the next objective was or where the hell to even go. I haven't even read this review you're talking aboot

But from my experience many(especially first timers) who complain about VIII's battle system haven't obviously made the effort to explore and experiment with the many methods of obtaining magic outside of drawing or people who complain about the story fail to realize that it's titled "Final Fantasy" and not "Final Common sense". It's just a fun fantasy game like many of the FFs. It's not going to appeal to everyone. I honestly don't think there's much a reviewer can do to completely shut down all the respect the game has held within the FF community, especially if that reviewer even acknowledges that disgusting emo culture(which didn't even exist at the time the game was released ). Even FFXIII has many supporters.

 

[charliepanayi]

I don't buy this at all. I really don't think this Spoony review suddenly led to some sea change in attitudes towards FFVIII, I imagine most people into FF don't even know about it. FFVIII has always been perhaps the most 'love it or hate it' game in the series (not helped by the fact it had to follow FFVII), but it's certainly not the most disliked by a long shot.

 

[kryceks]

For the most part, Spoony is just preaching to the choir. He already has his fans that also dislike FF8 and most other FF games for that matter. So yeah, I don't think he really converted fans into hating the game but rather gathered those who already disliked it. I watched the review years ago. It was the first video of Spoony's that I ever watched and I didn't think it was a well done video. Believe it or not, he DOES have some reviews that I think are more thought out.

His FFX and X-2 videos, I enjoyed. He had some legitimate arguments, and while I didn't agree with everything, I respect his opinion.

I think Spoony's fame comes from playing sort of a jerk character that likes to complain about everything. People eat that up. But for FF fans like me, I know when to call bullshit on the guy. And I can do that without diminishing the entertainment I get from his reviews.

So I really believe that true fans of the series will be able to think for themselves when watching these reviews. If people are so easily swayed by the opinion of ONE guy, who complains about EVERYTHING, then maybe we really don't want those people as fellow fans

 

[Blue Link]

Sounds like someone can't handle other's opinions

I understand what the guy is saying. FF8 had a lot of faults gameplay-wise. The Junctioning system was, to say the least, the most annoying system in a FF I had to deal with. Drawing magic and GF's and such is a total pain. And then using the magic to strengthen your characters is just as annoying. Granted, in theory it DOES work and make sense but I never looked forward to doing it as I'd be junctioning everyone more than playing the game. Then there's the whole deal with getting new weapons...you had to find the latest issue of a weapon magazine, collect the materials to make it, then you make it. Okay, seems pretty non-aggravating...except you practically have to look almost everywhere to find the damn things. I seriously managed to get to the 3rd Disc with EVERYONE'S initial weapon! That irked me a little.

The good points of this game are definitely the story. It has a deep story that really made me trek through this game even though I did not beat it yet. Sp no, I do not hate FF8, it just seems like everytime I try to finish it, it's a huge chore. And video games shouldn't be a chore.

 

[Starships]

I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere that he hadn't played the game before, but since I imagine the voicing over game video he would have already had an impression prior to said voice over

At the beginning of his review on Final Fantasy VIII he says that " It started going bad with Final Fantasy X, but here's where it started to go wrong ". It sounds like something like he's played it before.

And like I said, since it's his first run he wouldn't be using those as much as drawing, he even said as much in one of his review videos that he's aware of the other methods and was simply illustrating the tedium of the primary Draw system

Why do you believe that it's his first run when it's clearly not ? During the first FMV he already knows that Squall and Seifer are not battling to the death but they're trainning. If it was his first time playing FF8 he wouldn't of known that and he wouldn't of been already clamining that FF VIII was bad at the beginning of the FF 8 review.

i'd hardly call it a waste considering how long it takes to get to said end boss, you upgrade your spells as the game proceeds, I doubt you'll still have a 100 fire junction by the time you hit Ultimecia

I said that end game bosses can take away your draws, not just Ultimecia. Plus you can get to Ulti in a few hours if you're good enough or rush it. The 100 fires was a example. I said 100 fires because Spoony makes it out that you have to DRAW EVERYTHING which is wrong.

That's why it's a review, it's his own opinion, nobody's is truly correct aside from for that person.

It's not the fact that it's his opinion that his opinion it's the fact that people say that his review is good and a good solid review that shows a good reason why FF8 is "bad " when it doesn't because what his reasons on why FF8 being bad is wrong.
If he had good reasons and RIGHT reasons on why FF8 is a bad game; then okay.

That's all your opinion, i'm sure if he sung FF8's praises from the rooftops you'd be speaking differently

No it's not because what Spoony says about Final Fantasy VIII being "bad " is wrong. And lol not really because I hate the guy because he treats his fans on Twitter like dirt and he treats Final Fantasy fans like dirt too, during a donate show for That Guy With The Glasses website he treated a FF like crap because he only asked him to give FF9 a try. Spoony told him to " F off " that " his question annoys him " and his friends laughed at him and cut off him only because the FF Fan asked him to give FF9 a try. Spoony is a dick and even if he didn't praise FF VIII I wouldn't be celebrating because the reviewer is a immature man-child.

I really am not getting the vibe that everyone dislikes this FF. O__O What you described sounded like a case of people just jumping along on the bandwagon because of that review..

Well not everybody dislikes this Final Fantasy game but FF fans and non- FF Fans have watched this review and they've claimed that this review shows a good reasons why Final Fantasy VIII is a bad game when the point that I'm trying to make across that Spoony's reasons why FF8 is so bad are wrong; for a example you don't have to sit down for hours and draw 100 thunders you can just draw 3 thunders or whatever you want and leave.

Everyone''s got an FF they don't like but I don't think one review by a guy I've rarely even known diminishes the respect FFVIII has throughout the whole of the FF community. Anyone who bothers to dissect many ff games may find something they don't like, for example I and some of my friends were pissed at FFVII for not giving us much info on where the next objective was or where the hell to even go. I haven't even read this review you're talking aboot ..

It's up on Youtube just type in Spoony FF8 review and you should find it. But people have; people have watched this review and think that it shows good reasons on why FF VIII is a bad game when Spoony gives across false reasons and false information. Spoony didn't study FF8 and it shows, so why listen to a guy who knows nothing about the game that he reckons that is so dreadful ? It makes no sense.

Sadly people do. Notice this from Spoony's webiste- those who support FF8 are known as " stupid fanboys "

[URL]http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/02/18/squalls-dead/ [/url]

But from my experience many(especially first timers) who complain about VIII's battle system haven't obviously made the effort to explore and experiment with the many methods of obtaining magic outside of drawing or people who complain about the story fail to realize that it's titled "Final Fantasy" and not "Final Common sense". It's just a fun fantasy game like many of the FFs...

Agree ! Well said !

It's not going to appeal to everyone. I honestly don't think there's much a reviewer can do to completely shut down all the respect the game has held within the FF community, especially if that reviewer even acknowledges that disgusting emo culture(which didn't even exist at the time the game was released ). Even FFXIII has many supporters.

True. Though the point is people have, people watch this review and follow on Spoony's reasons on why FF8 is bad when all his points is wrong that's the main point that I'm trying to get across, also people here seem to missing that I also said at the end of the first post that " FF Fans need to make their own judgement on FF8 and not follow this bad review ". :dave:

 

[kratoscar2008]

FF 8 along with 5 are my favorite FF games and i feel they are much better than the other FF games, these are the things i loved of 8:

Squall: The best developed character in the series, he is the only MC of the series that felt real, he goes for so much facets on his life that it made him look like a true person and its more strong the feel of reality thanks that the characters looks like persons.

Junction System: This along FF5 Job and FF7 materia systems (Special mention to FFX SG) is my favorite system as removed the chore to have to grind and buy equipment, it added the game feel more strategic than other FF games. The game isnt dificult so you can store like 20 of each magic and beat the game witouth problem (Just stay away from Ultima and Omega weapon and malboro) so if you liked it use it, if dont dont use it either way you can finish the game.

I was kinda dissapointed with FF9 to be more simple when it came to customize your characters abilities, and required to get on much battles to learn the abilities, thats was a chore.

Plot: im kinda sucker when it comes to plot twists and devices so i dont have problem with plot holes and such (The dreaded orphanage twists didnt bothered me suffice to say), the story love and the character development that came with it was great no other FF game has surpassed it.

Now people just hate FF8 because it doesnt fit the mold of previous FF games and it was kind of futuristic even for the standard that FF7 set, they feel that 8 is a completely different game and thats why they bash at it and i kinda understand after the trash that FFXIII came to be as is pretty different from other FF games. Other reason is that people spected a FF7 like game and they sure were dissapointed.

FF8 is one of the best FF games but people always find something to dont like great games (Like how some people dont like FFX wich i cant understand why) I feel sorry for people that play games based on other peoples opinion but in this case (Based on the TC input) that guy didnt grasp the whole FF8 concept and i suspect he didnt finished the game and that is bad because you cant make a review until you end the game wich talks of this review quality.

 

[Starships]

i suspect he didnt finished the game and that is bad because you cant make a review until you end the game wich talks of this review quality.

I think he did end the game, though I can't make it that far tbh because I honestly cannot handle the fart and poo jokes and silly Middle Schooler jokes; listening to him rant on, on why Squall is such a bad main character because he didn't have sex with his "hawt lolz 111 8 " teacher and the " Squall must listen to Chemcial Romance LOLZ " jokes were bad enough, let alone ten more videos of that.

Quote from Spoony's website if people here still don't believe that people have watched Spoony's review and then bandwagoned.

Wow, some fanboys will never ever die. Look just accept it, FF8 sucked, there's no excuses for it, just leave it at that. Spoony didn't like it, I didn't like it, a lot of people didn't like it. Hell, the reason a lot of people keep defending it to hell is because they got a huge virgin boner over FF7 and will take up their buster swords and gunblades to make everyone still think that Final Fantasy is awesome and is the only game worth playing. These are the same people who go out and buy Dirge of Cerberus and play it for weeks hoping beyond hope that PS3 will deliver Final Fantasy 7 again in hd. Get over it, FF7 was mediocre, FF8 sucked.

 

[kratoscar2008]

I think he did end the game, though I can't make it that far tbh because I honestly cannot handle the fart and poo jokes and silly Middle Schooler jokes; listening to him rant on, on why Squall is such a bad main character because he didn't have sex with his "hawt lolz 111 8 " teacher and the " Squall must listen to Chemcial Romance LOLZ " jokes were bad enough, let alone ten more videos of that.

Quote from Spoony's website if people here still don't believe that people have watched Spoony's review and then bandwagoned.

Well that speaks of his audience and himself, i dont know that Lad but whoever watch his "insight" then it has serious mental problems.

Everyone with a brain know that after the merge things were starting going wrong, FFX-2 altough good wasnt necessary, XII good game but it has too much MMO feeling and then XIII, the sequel (again not necessary, just a ego boost) and XIV (Altough is starting to get shape but still another MMO).

FF8 is great but as people keep seeing things in perspective they must choose a worst for a series and for some reason like all the fans reunited and voted to what game bash they choosed either FF5 or FF8. I will make sure that my offprings play FF8 so its legacy endure.

 

[Rorolina Frixell]

What it all essencially boils down to is... It's his opinion, you don't have to like or accept it and if other people agree with him, that's their choice, from the reverse people might not agree with your reasoning that FF8 is a good game either. The same can be also said of his reviewing style and whatnot, different strokes for different folks and all that. Personally i'm not a huge fan of the bulk of the FF series lately, doesn't make my reasoning for that the 'right' one.

And really, he's just one guy on the internet

 

[PhoenyxAngel]

I'm actually a fan of Spoony. I found his reviews of FF8, FF10, and 10-2 to be funny and entertaining. The thing is, though, I don't take it seriously. Nor do I take offense to his opinions. Maybe it's because I really don't care what other people think of my favorite games (X and X-2, not VIII. I was never a fan of VIII to begin with), or maybe it's because I love it when people make fun of my favorite things (I'm weird like that). Or maybe it's because I can take a joke. I dunno.

Not saying you're taking too much offense to Spoony's review, but it is just his opinion. And anyone who would hate FFVIII, X, or X-2 just based off of his review and his opinions is a moron who can't think for themselves. Hence they're not even worth your time or thought.

I doubt he's swaying FFVIII fans into hating the game. A friend of mine is a die-hard FFVIII fan and I made her watch his videos. It didn't change her mind.

 

[NeoTesseract]

I'm actually a fan of Spoony. I found his reviews of FF8, FF10, and 10-2 to be funny and entertaining.

Also, please people. Not everyone likes the same things. Spoony has a pretty substantial fanbase, most would argue that his entire internet career took off because of that review. A lot of us hated Final Fantasy VIII long before Spoony came along, the reason why he became popular was because he voiced our opinions in a way that distilled hilarity! I loved that review, and was amazed at how he captured the disgust and offense a lot of us felt when instead of a FFVII sequel (which a lot of us wanted at the time) we got this game. (Yes, I grew up in the PSX era)

Everyone differs in opinion, my best friend hated this game as well. However, within our group of friends back in middle school we had a few FFVIII fanboys with whom we would get into all sorts of heated discussions (mostly teasing each other in the name of friendship). If you like the game, great! If you think it is the greatest regurgitation of the series, welcome to the club! Enjoy your game and stop complaining.

 

[Nocturne]

Years ago, Final Fantasy 8 used to be quite well respected within the Final Fantasy fanbase and while it didn't gain the success that FFX and FF VII did, it was quite well liked and loved within the FF fandom.

Fast- Foward to today and FF8 is that game underdog game that it usually dissed, insulted upon and get threads about how awful and how terrible the game is, and fans saying that it's their least favourite Final Fantasy game in the whole entire series.

But why ? I believe that it's because of Spoony's review that was made in about 2009ish. Ever since then FF VIII has been gainning hate and massive dislike and no longer claimed as one of the best and most liked Final Fantasy games out there, but instead one of the worse.

However Spoony's review has tons and tons of errors and faults and tons of mistakes. It's not even a good or funny review- it's one of the most overated poop within our history of the world; I'm not kidding with you.

The first parts of the review he complains that the words "why " and " I' ll be waiting for you, I promise " flash across the screen. Spoony shouts out that it doesn't make sense and he doesn't even know why it's happening. If Spoony had actually studied FF VIII he would of know that the words that flash across the opening FMV reflect Squall's promise to Rinoa that he'll protect her from her fears later on in the game.


Then Spoony rants about the Junction and Drawing System which is is a main fault within his review on why FF8 is so bad, Spoony claims that FF8 makes you sit down and downright forces you to draw 100 magic of each spell which is completely wrong and not true at all.

Spoony cries about the oh-so-terrible Junction and drawing system being awful and dreadful for about 3 videos which is a complete waste of time. Spoony might of well made a silly video with pictures of Spongebob Squarepants ripping his pants and Vegeta from DBZ screaming " It's over nine thousand " ! Because they're just pointless dribble because the mistake that he had already made in the first review.
In fact all of this reviews about why FF8 is so damn bad are all competely pointless because he keeps on making stupid mistakes and dumb jokes that you'll think a 12 year old Middle Schooler made up instead. Spoony then claims that Squall is the worse Final Fantasy hero and FF VIII is even more of a stupid game because Squall doesn't spend the night having sex with his "hawt " Teacher Quistis Trepe. That's right folks ! Vaan isn't the worse Final Fantasy hero ever made, it's Squall ! Why ? Because he didn't have sex with Quistis. Oh my Glob.

The next part is Spoony giving the listener emo jokes that you'll think that a 12 year old Middle Schooler came up with instead. " SQUALLZ IS SO EMO HE MUST LISTEN TO CHEMCIAL ROMANCE 1OLZ88 " !!
Yeah, not funny. Not even in the slightest. Then he makes more mistakes like Seifer being the main badguy of the series and not Ulti.

Then the 5th and 6th parts are Spoony ranting on Laguna and Ward. Ward because he has to throw his weapon and then grab it back and the monsters let him, somebody forgot to tell Spoony that this game is called Final FANTASY.
Laguna gets dissed because he likes to listen to Julia play on her piano at the local pub, I don't see what's so wrong with that and then he makes " Oh Laguna must of crapped his pants " jokes because Laguna gets a numb leg from being embrassed in front of his crush. Again more 7 year old jokes.

I didn't watch the rest of his videos on why FF VIII because I already got the picture that he doesn't even know what game he's really dissing and making out to be so bad in the first place and lame terrible immature jokes.


My point is that I'm trying to get across that this review has killed Final Fantasy VIII for all the wrong reasons, the review is AWFUL and I'm postive that a actuall 12 year old middle school student could do better than what Spoony has actually done.

Yet people call this review good and solid and has good reasons on why FF8 is so "awful " yet it's not at all. FF Fans and non- FF Fans have jumped on the " FF8 sucks " bandwagon for all the wrong reasons, from a poorly written review that makes terrible mistakes and jokes that belong on a new episode of The Simpons.

The spoon that killed Final Fantasy VIII is rusty and broken. Final Fantasy VIII needs a massive Phoenix Down .

People really need to replay Final Fantasy VIII and gain their OWN judgement on this game and not from this DREADFUL review. If you hate FF8 because of this review then I'm sorry but you're a fool, you're silly.

Because this review that Spoony has made is just junk, silly junk. It's not funny and it makes countless mistakes. Final Fantasy fans need to pick up FF8 and rely on their own judgement and decide whether FF VIII is good or bad on their OWN terms and not this horrible, overated review.

I completely agree with your post. While Spoony can be funny at times, he is just like every other reviewer who does these about games: He edits it so it will be funny, not factual. You can take literally anything and edit it a certain way and make it look like a joke, and he does this. And I also agree that people started to hate FF8 because of it. I have friends who never even played the game that make fun of it because of this review and I call them out on it. One of them went and played part of it and liked it alot but lost his save file so he stopped. Another wants to play it now as well. It really is sad. It's actually my favorite game in the series.

 

[Starships]

I'm actually a fan of Spoony. I found his reviews of FF8, FF10, and 10-2 to be funny and entertaining. The thing is, though, I don't take it seriously..

To be honest I did enjoy his Final Fantasy X-2 review because he made some good solid points like why have a concert in the Thunder Plains ? It just doesn't make sense though I only dislike Spoony not because of the FFVIII review don't get me wrong but because of how he treated a fellow Final Fantasy away from his reviews and out in the open and how he treats his fans on Twitter, imo off his reviews he's a jerk. Just being honest here.

It's not about whether the review was funny or not it's about how the review false advertistes in a way what's so bad about FF8 because his facts are all wrong. If you found his review funny that's fine, it's just that Spoony isn't a good reviewer at all.

Take the Nol critic for a example when he reviewed Quest for Calmalot I was upset because I knew that he was going to rip it a new one and that movie was like a childhood favourite; however he raised up some good points, he had good reasons why the movie isn't so good, and more.

Spoony's review on FF VIII as funny as it may be to some watchers all the information he displayed about FF8 being so bad is wrong. That's the point I'm trying to make across here, not that " I'm upset and crying that some big bully has insulted FF8 whine whine kinda thing." If Spoony had some RIGHT and GOOD reasons on why FF8 is bad, then I would be all good for hear it, but not lies and crappy information that is false.

I doubt he's swaying FFVIII fans into hating the game. A friend of mine is a die-hard FFVIII fan and I made her watch his videos. It didn't change her mind.

I have to disagree with you until I'm proven wrong on this.

 

[Rorolina Frixell]

Even if he is swaying fans though... Who cares? The problem lies with them, not Spoony. I doubt he made this review with the sole intent of turning as many FF fans as possible against FF8, you can't blame him for what the end result was of people watching his reviews. People do at times watch reviews for an opinion on a game, regardless of whether it's serious or comedic and it's hardly an uncommon opinion to dislike FF8 anyway.

 

[Nocturne]

Even if he is swaying fans though... Who cares? The problem lies with them, not Spoony. I doubt he made this review with the sole intent of turning as many FF fans as possible against FF8, you can't blame him for what the end result was of people watching his reviews. People do at times watch reviews for an opinion on a game, regardless of whether it's serious or comedic and it's hardly an uncommon opinion to dislike FF8 anyway.

Well the worrying part is, if he sways fans, especially if they never played Final Fantasy, now they will think all of these games are like this and thus lessening sales and hurting the series as a whole. He may just have his own opinion, but he has a platform with alot of fans.