Which Gender Suffers Worse?

Which Gender Suffers More?


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My choice I say woman definitely have it worse than guys do woman go threw so many problems and yet stay strong. Woman give life us guys help out of course lol but seriously I have alot of respect for woman and I love of you:grouphug:
 
Women definitely have it the hardest in life. We have periods, child birth, and we also have to deal with the mindless ramblings of men as they try to explain away our problems as just "menstrual". SCREW THAT! that is so annoying. Just because we get cranky on out periods doesn't mean that EVERYTHING is because of our periods. What? We can't just have a bad day like men do? Hell, women have come a long way in being more accepted in society. Long ago we would have been burned for voicing our opinions. Today, we still get shot down a lot just because of our gender. It's really quite unfair actually.
 
I would have to say men have it easier than women and here's why:
1. We keep our last name.

2. The garage is all ours.

3. Wedding plans take care of themselves.

4. Chocolate is just another snack.

5. We can be president.

6. We can wear a white T-shirt to a water park.

7. We can wear no shirt to a water park

8. Car mechanics tell us the truth.

9. The world is our urinal.

10. We never have to drive to another gas station because this one's just too icky.

11. Same work, more pay.

12. Wrinkles add character.

13. Wedding dress - $5000; tux rental - $100.

14. People never stare at our chest when we're talking to them.

15. The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected.

16. New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle our feet.

17. One mood, ALL the time.

18. Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.

19. We know stuff about tanks.

20. A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.

21. We can open all our own jars.

22. We get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

23. If someone forgets to invite us, he or she can still be our friend.

24. Our underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.

25. Everything on our face stays its original color.

26. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.

27. We don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.

28. We almost never have strap problems in public.

29. We are unable to see wrinkles in our clothes.

30. The same hair style lasts for years, maybe decades.

31. We don't have to shave below our neck.

32. Our belly usually hides our big hips.

33. One wallet and one pair of shoes, one color, all seasons.

34. We can "do" our nails with a pocket-knife.

35. We have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.

36. We can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives, on December 24, in 45 minutes.
Sounds like a pretty laid back and simple life to me
 
As much as I hate sounding the same as everyone else, or just about anyone else anyways, I do think that women have it worse.
I suppose I should say a little more about this then just that initial statement. Normal growth for women is plain painful, as our breasts grow they hurt and surely enough they cane cause back pains. Every damn month we bleed from the vagina! Do you guys have any idea how annoying that is? We have to change the pad about three of even four times a day, not to mention wearing the damn thing is almost too uncomfortable. Yeah a tampon is a bit better, but sometimes even that is uncomfortable, specially if it's one of the first times the girl is using it. The period also causes cramps, back pains and even sometimes it makes our breasts hurt. =/
We can come to the time of pregnancy, sure it's nice to think about it but when you're going through it, it's hell. We get fat, we have to carry around a kid that sometimes the guy doesn't even help with! Hurling, extreme cravings, mood swings, swollen feet and ankles and god knows what other things happens. Sure in the end we have a precious baby that we can love forever; but surely not before feeling like your lower lip is stretched to the back of your neck. Birth really hurts...there are even cases where the Mother can die! As the child grows sure it's nice having a child to take care of it and such; but sometimes the Father doesn't help at all leaving all the work to the women [house work and child care] sure this isn't always the case but it's very common. When the child finally reaches the teenage years the Mother is the one that deals with the kid's schooling problems, PTA meetings and even worse [hopefully not] criminal rages. A lot of the males don't get as involved with the raising of the child as much as they should. =/
A lot of women are killed and injured by their mates [male]. Times have changed but the minds of many males haven't. A lot of women are victims of domestic abuse, too many of them are afraid to speak up [sadly].
*sigh* I'm sorry...maybe I shouldn't have said nothing even if I do have a lot more to say.
Either way...special males [love] make the bad times durable. =) Thank you.

~Tifa~
 
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while we cant say that man wont suffer childbirth, pregnant man is pregnant again!, we can say that women will never know the pain of being hit in the balls, they get off easy

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And we can easily say that a man will never know the pain of birthing a child, the pain of cramps that hurt so bad it makes you feel like you're going into labor and they won't go away for hours and hours on end.

Now, I'm not saying that men don't have it rough. They do. There is the constant worry and stress of their jobs (I'm going off these ideals based on my husband and what I watch him go through), he suffers sometimes tremendously at work because of the workload laid on his shoulders. He doesn't handle the finances at home, I do, but that's not to say money issues that tend to pop up every now and then don't worry him just like they do me. Then there is our son to consider. We worry about him, worry about his schooling, worry about his health, etc...these are all mutual worries we both share.

Now, as a woman and the things I go through I will mention these. First I'd like to start with this:

Franice said:
Eh. Although I'm female, I've never been able to understand why pregnant women complain so much about being pregnant. People love pregnant women. Yeah, you hurl a lot, have hemorrhoids, your feet hurt, and you've got to squeeze an 8Ib sack of misery out of your cooch, but for 9 months people will bend over backwards to do things for you. Plus, you're carrying a life that you're compelled to love unconditionally, and that's amazing.

I'm sorry dear, but have you ever experienced being pregnant? Have you ever had a child before? What gives you the right to sit there and say these things lightly unless you've experienced it firsthand. People don't necessarily coddle you and bend over backwards for you either. I sure as hell didn't get that when I was pregnant with my son. I had to work, just like every other woman did. I suffered from it all. Like Bam, I suffered from an iron deficiency as well, so it was quite unpleasant being exhausted all the time.

Hurling alot??? Sweetie, this isn't just like your normal average stomach flu puking. This was like hurling your guts out on the hour every hour, or anytime you put something in your stomach it came right back out, and this doesn't just last a day like the stomach bug does. This lasts for a good 3+ months. You get in pain, you get uncomfortable, you constantly feel bloated, tired. You have mood swings that are caused by absolutely nothing. And the childbirth is no walk in the park...a 8lb sack of misery? I'm sorry, but I take offense to that.

I couldn't even push the baby out on my own. He had to be taken by forceps, which in turn tore me up and I also nearly bled to death. If they had let me bleed any longer than I was, I could've died and almost did. I'd like to see you go through 9 months of pregnancy hell and not complain. If you haven't, then you have no right to say what you just did. Then there's also afterward you have to worry about. Not being able to sit properly for 3 weeks to a month, like Kelly said. Bleeding constant for about 6 weeks nonstop. Soreness, lack of sleep due to waking to feed the little one, especially if you breast feed. Seriously, please don't talk so lightly about things like you know it all, okay? Until you actually do get pregnant and experience everything for yourself, then you can have the right to talk.

Now that aside, there is also the monthly phyiscal bullshit us ladies go through. We sometimes have it worse than others. We sometimes cannot help our moods. It's not as though we're intentionally being bitches just to be bitches, it's just when PMS hits, we have no control over our emotions. It's just like crying. Do you have control of crying all the time? Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Well that's how it is when we have PMS or even just hormonal changes cause our mood swings. WE-CAN'T-HELP-IT. Try as we might, it's not our fault. Then we have the actual, physical pain and the bleeding for a week straight. Did we ask for any of this? Have we a choice in the suffering we endure every single month? No, we don't. So in conclusion, and I am not trying to be biased in any way because I KNOW that my husband suffers and I KNOW he endures a lot, especially with having to be around me when I'm in pain or I'm moody (just like I do with him as well) I feel that women are the gender who suffers the most.I only say this because of what I experience day in and day out.
 
Eh. Although I'm female, I've never been able to understand why pregnant women complain so much about being pregnant. People love pregnant women. Yeah, you hurl a lot, have hemorrhoids, your feet hurt, and you've got to squeeze an 8Ib sack of misery out of your cooch, but for 9 months people will bend over backwards to do things for you. Plus, you're carrying a life that you're compelled to love unconditionally, and that's amazing.

That was rudely put. >_> I've never been pregnant before so I can't say much, but not every pregnant woman gets everything handed to them. Yeah, maybe some women who's husbands are lawyers and doctors, but the average woman still needs to work full-time to sustain a steady income. Also a pregnant woman suffers a lot more than you think.

Anyway, to answer the question, I believe women suffer worse. While women have overcome so much since Women's suffrage and the 19th Amendment, we're still not completely accepted socially. A common example is women can be called sluts, whores, and more, but men aren't usually referred to that. Another example is the way women are stereotyped by the media as sex objects. I could provide more examples but eh. Overall, it's there is still sexism against women, so it makes it harder for women to be socially accepted.

There is a but to this... Some young women aren't exactly helping the social status of women either. >_> Aka shows like The Girls Next Door and Rock of Love. Also read the lyrics to The Pussycat Dolls - Buttons.

In the states, economically women aren't paid as much as men. Women are doing pretty well economically, and there are some female CEOs. Woot!

As said above, women suffer a lot because of periods. I'm taking something to help it but if I wasn't, I would be missing 2-3 days of school or work. Imagine you're in bed for 2-3 days popping pain killers. Praying that they'll work. Cramps feel like someone is stabbing you in the uterus and thighs repeatedly.

Men do suffer quite a bit but not as much as women. A man can leave a woman with her kids any time.

Not all women, but there are some women who are full-time mothers, wives, and workers. A mother is a much more important figure than a father to a child. (That is when both figures are present.)

Lastly, women physically weaker than men. =/ Argue this all you want but really, females are more vulnerable. (Unless she was a Navy SEAL.)
 
A mother is a much more important figure than a father to a child. (That is when both figures are present.)
What on Earth compelled you to make this kind of sweeping statement? xD Could you either confirm this as your opinion or validate it with some research? :wacky:

Yeah, it's in the debate forum now -- woop. :gmonster:
 
Women definitely have it the hardest in life. We have periods, child birth, and we also have to deal with the mindless ramblings of men as they try to explain away our problems as just "menstrual". SCREW THAT! that is so annoying. Just because we get cranky on out periods doesn't mean that EVERYTHING is because of our periods. What? We can't just have a bad day like men do? Hell, women have come a long way in being more accepted in society. Long ago we would have been burned for voicing our opinions. Today, we still get shot down a lot just because of our gender. It's really quite unfair actually.

IA. That bit is really annoying, I must say. Just say you are really having a problem.. or a bad day, and you want to talk about it. It's almost as if you are belittled, in a way, because you are assumed to be "menstrual" and not taken seriously; thought simply as being melodramatic.


A lot of unfairness still persists. Such as unequal pay (a woman can be paid less doing the exact same job as a male) or if a woman wants to take a male-dominated job (such as joining the military, working construction, etc.) their wish to do that job isn't usually believed in earnest or taken as sincerely as it should be. "She's weak as a woman, and after all.. A man can do what she can and more" is the mentality of some people. :argh:

All in all, surely, It's gotten a great deal better compared to years ago.. for women, any way. Because honestly... On the male's side it's not all flowers and sunshine either. I think certain feminists are just down right cruel to men in general. There seems to be a trendy prejudice that all men are the very same as the worst of them. So therefore, a lot of males are treated with disdain that is well actualized before even a chance is given to get to know them.. That's not right either.

As for my choice.. It goes to women having it harder in the end. *joins the majority*
 
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What on Earth compelled you to make this kind of sweeping statement? xD Could you either confirm this as your opinion or validate it with some research? :wacky:

Yeah, it's in the debate forum now -- woop. :gmonster:

Christ this site is slow. >_>

I didn't originally intend to waltz in here to debate, but might as well.

Anyway, if you have taken psychology you should know that there is a chemical bond from between mother and child when a baby a born. A baby doesn't recongize their mother until two weeks later. (I can't remember so correct me if I'm wrong.) As for a father, it takes longer for a child to recongize his father.

In a 'normal' mother and child relationship, a child will become attached to his mother during it's first six months of life. Naturally mothers Mothers are the natural sustenance providers. Most of the time, mothers raise their children and usually they're attached to their mothers for a while.

Overall, in a typical, normal, family, children are more attached to their mothers. I'm not saying it always happens. There are some same sex parents, and mothers who reject their child/children.
 
Angelic Shinigami said:
As for physical factors, I think women are subject to more suffering... They have to deal with pregnancy, menstruation, and are more likely to be raped than men are. They also, for the most part, are naturally physically weaker than men are, and so have to work hard to match the strength of a male.

A.S has very valid points here. Sure, men have a chance of being raped too, but it's only ever women that we hear about. Menstruation... not nice, men, do, however, have to put up with the severe bitches that some of us become, so I have great respect for men because of that. Pregnancy... oh if only there was a way for men to deal with that...

Mouse said:
Women are more likely to gte raped, Men are more likely to be doing the raping ,which gives us a bad name.

Only those that actually do the raping... o_O;;
I don't look down on other men just because a handful get their kicks by forcing sex onto a woman.

Franice said:
Eh. Although I'm female, I've never been able to understand why pregnant women complain so much about being pregnant. People love pregnant women. Yeah, you hurl a lot, have hemorrhoids, your feet hurt, and you've got to squeeze an 8Ib sack of misery out of your cooch, but for 9 months people will bend over backwards to do things for you. Plus, you're carrying a life that you're compelled to love unconditionally, and that's amazing.

Quite possibly the most offensive thing I've read in ages. If you've not suffered through being pregnant, I ask that you don't jump to these assumptions because it's not as easy as someone bending over backwards for you. There are so many women out there who have to deal with it ALONE, no help whatsoever.


Moondancer said:
I'd rather do things for myself than go through pregnancy again. I was always tired because I had a gay iron deficiency, which alot of women get. I couldn't breath proper becasue of that, I was fat, uncomfortable feeling sick. Couldnt stand the smell of certain foods, and I swear I was on par with a heroin addict when I wanted brocolli. Labour was excrutiating. As were the stitches that came after it, meaning I couldnt sit proper for over 3 weeks. Then there was the incessant bleeding, the sleepless nights on top of that. So no, people running around 'doing' things for you doesn't quite compare

I'm Anemic so when I was pregnant, i suffered from iron deficiency something fucking chronic. Brocolli? o_O The smell of that made me upchuck. I went mental for honey =\ xD
I didn't actually go through labour, though, tbh, I wish I had because I'd be able to sympathize with you more. I'll explain further down :gasp:


Kerrigan said:
So, aye, it's the men. We have to put up with the constant complaining (demonstrated in the opening quote), women have more daily hassles but men seem to stretch their hassles over a longer period of time, we have the pressure to be the stronger characters in life, we can't hide our "affection" so well, we can get much more itchy and unconfortable than women can in the ol' pubic region...

Try being a woman for a year Dave. We have to be constant rolemodels to other girls, we have mood swings daily and we have to live up to men day to day. you might get itchy in the ol' pubic region, but we have to push the kids out of ours. :elmo:


BustaMo said:
Women have it worse.

If I had a kid pop out of some crevice in my body, I'm very certain I'd be a huge pussy (no pun intended) about it. I'm rather happy that I'm a male and I can enjoy the act of sex both now and when I get married in the future knowing that I won't have to go through the baby-birthing process when the time comes.

olol. Bless you Busta <3 It's nice to see you appreciate popping out a baby isn't exactly easy xD


Relient A said:
Definitely Women, giving birth being the obvious reason. However, women ABSOLUTELY expects their irrational behavior to be automatically excused, even if it isn't because they are currently bleeding for days straight. I know there are exceptions, but I am yet to meet them.
I never, EVER, expect my behaviour when I'm PMS'ing to be excused. I warn people and apologize profusely if I go everboard, so don't say shit like that as though all women are the same.

Mitsuki said:
I do believe that the females has more hassles to put up with in life since they do bear a lot of burden. I'm not saying the men don't share the same burdens - they do, especially when it deals with work, career, financial problems, family problems, etc. But more women also suffer from psychological distress and physical aches and pains, which is more often than men. I remember reading a few studies where males and females were interviewed and were asked how many of them felt distress for the past seven days. I'm not surprised to see that more women had reported a case of distress and depression. Of course, this has a lot to do with hormones and an imbalance of neurotransmitters in the brain, which is definitely related to depression. There's a whole lot more going on in the female body and brain, but I'm not gonna go into too much details because what the hell do I know? I don't even understand how myself works.

But yes, I definitely have to go with women who suffers more in general, just because biologically-speaking, there is a lot of things involved when it comes to female physiology and how it does indeed affect their moods. Yeah sure the males may get the worst end of it especially when they don't know what's wrong with their spouse or girlfriend who suddenly turned maniac in the middle of a movie, but I honestly think that's not a serious case enough compared to what women really go through. I'm not saying that men don't go through something similar - I'm sure a lot do too as well...it all really depends on someone's personality, but generally-speaking females are most likely to snap faster and more often than men, and in-turn, may even cause a negative environment to those surrounding them, themselves included.

Trust Mits to pretty much hit that nail on the head. I'm glad I read through the past posts before making my own cos I would have seemed as though I was merely paraphrasing the above XD <3


Aztec Triogal said:
Just to throw this out there for those who argue that women have it worse because of pregnancy: it is really a choice. It's commonplace but it's not rare to meet a woman without children either. Not always but most of the time it is a conscious choice by a couple to have a child. Does that pain count less because its optional?

It's not that simple. Falling pregnant can just happen if you're not careful enough, or through other instances. Abortion, is not something so simple as getting rid of an unwanted child. It leaves its own emotional scars on a woman. So, whilst it may seem optional, it's just not that simple.

Moondancer said:
If it's a mutual choice between man and woman, then Id choose to have the man get pregnant. We well got the short end of the stick

If I had the CHOICE, Id of been born Kevin, not Kelly -__-

And I'd have been Victor, not Viktoria >_>

AncientOne said:
Women definitely have it the hardest in life. We have periods, child birth, and we also have to deal with the mindless ramblings of men as they try to explain away our problems as just "menstrual". SCREW THAT! that is so annoying. Just because we get cranky on out periods doesn't mean that EVERYTHING is because of our periods. What? We can't just have a bad day like men do? Hell, women have come a long way in being more accepted in society. Long ago we would have been burned for voicing our opinions. Today, we still get shot down a lot just because of our gender. It's really quite unfair actually.

I find that a little unfair on the men tbh.



Also, Im not going to quote anything from Mandi's post because I agree with everything she fooking said. Same with Kleenex. Except for the Mother being more important than a father in a child's life. I think both are equally important to a child.


Ok. So. Now on to my rant. I'm not going to say men have it easy, because they really fucking don't and for that reason, I'm not going to actually vote. However, I'm going to give two of my experiences on the more psychologically destroying events that can happen to a woman.

Abortion. I've aborted a child. I was barely a child myself so it was the right choice. However, it's something I do think about daily and regret. Destroying the life living inside of you leaves you with such emotional scars it's hard to imagine unless you've been through it yourself.

Miscarriage. By far the most devastating of the two. I've also suffered one of these. It's painful both physically and emotionally. It leaves to suffering for ages and there's always that chance that you might never EVER get over it.

Men don't have to deal with the internal pain these two instances bring on. They don't have the fear that they might lose the baby inside them through miscarrying it.

I'm not saying men cannot be affected by either event, but its far more psychologically traumatic for the woman.

Females have it psychologically and emotionally tougher than men do. We're seen as being physically weaker, and yes, perhaps we are, but hell, we're not built that way. We're stronger mentally, we deal with so much psychological trauma, men don't realise half of it.

That's my opinion at least. :monster:

and I'm not looking for pity. -__- I deal with my own problems my own way.
 
*applauds vikk*

Very very good post, it takes a lot of courage to be able to speak from the heart like that especially on a forum where the majority probably have yet to encounter these heavy issues in personal experience.

I know you do not seek sympathy, but I do not envy you one bit and cannot begin to understand the pain and stress you went through and are probably still going through mentally, physically and phycholgically, what we men get is only a fraction really compared to what women have to endure in these circumstances.

Misscarriages are something I wouldnt wish on my worst enemy, they destroy friendships, relationships, marriages and even lives, It takes a very strong willed person to come out of the other side of that tunnel.

In my personal experience (as a male) I've had one pregancy scare (accident where the protection split) and a long time g/f that suffered a miss-carriage, least to say it left our whole relationship in tatters.

I went through a lot of emotions during that time period, most of all I felt trapped, I didnt know what to say to her or do, everything seemed to make things worse, eventually we called it quits because the gap between us that had been created was too wide a void to be closed, we became completely different from how we originally were as a couple and the heartache was just too much for either of us to bare...

We are still friends to this day however, despite everything that has happened, we still have time to laugh and joke, but I know what happened between us will always remain in the back of her mind as it does with mine, so the subject is never talked about as we know where it will lead...

Although it did not affect me directly (I was not the person with the life growing inside of me that was cruely stolen) it did affect me indirectly...

We men do claim to be superior, but that is b/s I will honestly say, If I was the one that suffered the misscarriage, I would not have been emotionally strong enough to get through it, We men tend to block out emotions or distance ourselves in these situations...We would just falter and collapse if it was us, only a woman is strong enough to deal with this.

And I've yet to meet a man who can prove me wrong!

just my 2cents on the whole thing from a guys point of view.
 
What on Earth compelled you to make this kind of sweeping statement? xD Could you either confirm this as your opinion or validate it with some research? :wacky:

Yeah, it's in the debate forum now -- woop. :gmonster:

Daaaave, I don't think she meant it in like a...superiority sense, but more or less in the literal sense. For a mother to carry a child for 9 months a certain bond is developed. That is why a few weeks after the child is born she/he longs for the mother and it easier for the child to calm down by the mother and not the father. The touch of the mother usually relaxes the child, her voice, whether she sings or just speaks softly calms the little one down. Her scent and of course it looks to the mother to feed it.

It's as Kleenex said, it's a chemical bond that's produced throughout the 9 months in the womb. It's also a maternal bond. The child may recognize the father's voice certainly if he was present for the 9 months that little one was growing, but it's only natural that the child is going to more attached to it's mommy than anything because of that specific bond. I know when Logan was born, all he wanted was me. The only person who could calm him was me. The tone of my voice calmed him, if he was screaming I'd sing to him and he'd settle right down. The moment I'd bring him to my skin he's quite down right away. It's just a mother and child thing...hard to explain. Anyway, this is going off topic. I just wanted to explain that.
 
I never, EVER, expect my behaviour when I'm PMS'ing to be excused. I warn people and apologize profusely if I go everboard, so don't say shit like that as though all women are the same.

Uhm, no, I will say shit like that. I do not personally know a single female who admits to being completely irrational. Not unless it's after the fact, and even then there are never any apologies, because, as stated, they expect it to be excused without question.

And I DID say there are exceptions, so I am NOT saying it as though ALL women are the same. I know a lot of females, and I get this from all of them. If you're different, I applaud you. But absolutely nothing you say can refute the facts from the environment I'm coming from... because, simply put, there is no way you can possibly know. I would appreciate you actually reading posts instead of putting words in peoples mouths.
 
I feel the need to make it clear, now, that my very first post in this thread wasn't entirely serious - it was in Costa del Sol, previously. Thinking about it more thoroughly probably would change my vote - men just don't have much of a leg to stand on in this argument (which is now more of a "come up with the worst things about being a woman!" thread xD).
 
Uhm, no, I will say shit like that. I do not personally know a single female who admits to being completely irrational. Not unless it's after the fact, and even then there are never any apologies, because, as stated, they expect it to be excused without question.

And I DID say there are exceptions, so I am NOT saying it as though ALL women are the same. I know a lot of females, and I get this from all of them. If you're different, I applaud you. But absolutely nothing you say can refute the facts from the environment I'm coming from... because, simply put, there is no way you can possibly know. I would appreciate you actually reading posts instead of putting words in peoples mouths.

I read your post thoroughly. You can't base the entire population of females just off the handful you know personally. I find it offensive to the rest of us who do not expect to be excused because of our behaviour. I noticed you didn't jump on Kelly when she also pointed this out. :elmo:

And I'm not putting words into peoples mouths. HA, think of something better to argue with than that, dear. -patpat;-


Thanks Shaun. <3

It is a chemical bond between mother and child, yes, but as the child grows up, the father is just as important was my point to that whole thing xD >_>
 
Reliant A said:
Definitely Women, giving birth being the obvious reason. However, women ABSOLUTELY expects their irrational behavior to be automatically excused, even if it isn't because they are currently bleeding for days straight. I know there are exceptions, but I am yet to meet them.


You put words into your own mouth and are now stumbling over yourself to try and correct it. all you said was that you know there are exceptions but you also stated "Women ABSOLUTELY expect their irritational behaviour to be automatically excused." You didn't state that this was purely in the case of those few you know.

And please, Species? That sounds so prehistoric.

*Note I made the grammar make sense. :monster:



 
I am NOT making assumptions on the ENTIRE female half of the species, and therefor you ARE putting words in my mouth.
Children please. This is a sensitive subject so remember that what's said could cause offense. This works both ways.
Also more effort in the future, posts of this length will be deleted from now on.

And I DID say there are exceptions, so I am NOT saying it as though ALL women are the same. I know a lot of females, and I get this from all of them. If you're different, I applaud you. But absolutely nothing you say can refute the facts from the environment I'm coming from... because, simply put, there is no way you can possibly know. I would appreciate you actually reading posts instead of putting words in peoples mouths.
You cannot base an arguement off the women you know. Firstly it assumes all women are the same, secondly you couldn't possibly know enough women.
It's pretty much an appeal to authority.
 
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