Yeah, Yuna's voice actress was awful! She sounded like she could never catch her breath. I think it made her sound much weaker than she was and like she was trying to hard to act. I wish they had gotten a better VA for her and Tidus 
Why do people say that Yuna is spineless?
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Neo Bahamut
Blue Mage
Oh, blah, voice actors. If I listened to that objection every time it was raised, I'd honestly believe that only the Japanese know how to talk! So what if she's soft spoken? Sephiroth doesn't have the booming, grandoise voice I expected of him, but he's still decent.
Neo Bahamut
Blue Mage
Which was the right decision. She's a White Mage. She should resonate the appearance of being meek, but an inner strength.
As for Sephiroth, his voice sounds quiet & reserved, which is good for one aspect of his personality, but it ignores all of the dramatic speeches he made in the game. It's just not good for a "hear me in the rafters" type speech, which is probably why there haven't been as many in the Compilation lately.
As for Sephiroth, his voice sounds quiet & reserved, which is good for one aspect of his personality, but it ignores all of the dramatic speeches he made in the game. It's just not good for a "hear me in the rafters" type speech, which is probably why there haven't been as many in the Compilation lately.
i respect your opinion - but i don't dislike yuna's VA. she just doesn't quite fit the bill for yuna as a character, is what i'm saying.
sephiroth always struck me as the kind of guy who doesn't like large groups of people. his english voice doesn't amaze me, but a booming voice wouldn't really fit him either, IMHO. to be honest i'm not sure how he should sound; i'm not sure how cloud should sound either - steve burton has his moments, but then he frequently falls into the country-boy tone which doesn't fit cloud's punk attire/hairstyle. as you can see, i'm quite picky about voice actors
sephiroth always struck me as the kind of guy who doesn't like large groups of people. his english voice doesn't amaze me, but a booming voice wouldn't really fit him either, IMHO. to be honest i'm not sure how he should sound; i'm not sure how cloud should sound either - steve burton has his moments, but then he frequently falls into the country-boy tone which doesn't fit cloud's punk attire/hairstyle. as you can see, i'm quite picky about voice actors
I'm grining from ear to ear having watched that vid its been awhile since l've seen it!
Anyway, what i wanted to say before was that It was only Yuna's choices in FFX that made her seem spineless. If she were in a different world where truth was what you made it through self-determination instead of the Dogmatic lies of a religious church.
Yuna would have been regarded as a hero, it was only the influence of yevon that blurd her choices, exterior to that given her convictions and drive to help people she would have made the same choice, to help people.
With a deeper analysis into the way Yevon manipulated its people with fear and racial stereo types, the Al-Bhed for example, and subjugation of free will the choices for yuna were limited and given the lies she chose not to do nothing but to do the one thing that would lead to the ultimate sacrifice.Death.
l still dont think l got my point across.
In regards to her voice actor,Heady Buress, she is quite talented, appearing in many drama films and period fillums......she is also quite attractive.(the hell does that have to do with it?)
Anyway, what i wanted to say before was that It was only Yuna's choices in FFX that made her seem spineless. If she were in a different world where truth was what you made it through self-determination instead of the Dogmatic lies of a religious church.
Yuna would have been regarded as a hero, it was only the influence of yevon that blurd her choices, exterior to that given her convictions and drive to help people she would have made the same choice, to help people.
With a deeper analysis into the way Yevon manipulated its people with fear and racial stereo types, the Al-Bhed for example, and subjugation of free will the choices for yuna were limited and given the lies she chose not to do nothing but to do the one thing that would lead to the ultimate sacrifice.Death.
l still dont think l got my point across.
In regards to her voice actor,Heady Buress, she is quite talented, appearing in many drama films and period fillums......she is also quite attractive.(the hell does that have to do with it?)
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Neo Bahamut
Blue Mage
Cloud is sort of a country boy, though. :\
I'm not really picky at all. I can kind of see where you guys are going with this. It certainly has more merit than all of those YouTube Tards who just shout, "English VA SUCKS!" without any sort of explanation.
Sephiroth was voiced by Lance Bass in Kingdom Hearts. That would be an example of Sephiroth with a booming voice. I have to admit that I didn't really have a problem with it, unlike most fans, who immediately flipped shit. The catch is that he had no dialogue. Maybe, if he'd started actually talking, my opinion may have changed. I certainly do have doubts that the guy could sound even remotely threatening. But, then again, I only recently found out that Roxas was Jesse Mcartney, or however you spell his name, so I could be wrong there.
I do begrudgingly admit that the new guy is at least better. Regardless, I don't think that any voice actor so far has captured the entirety of Sephiroth's character. As with Yuna, Tidus, & a few others, I accept it based on this philosophy: You probably aren't going to get perfection.
I'm not really picky at all. I can kind of see where you guys are going with this. It certainly has more merit than all of those YouTube Tards who just shout, "English VA SUCKS!" without any sort of explanation.
Sephiroth was voiced by Lance Bass in Kingdom Hearts. That would be an example of Sephiroth with a booming voice. I have to admit that I didn't really have a problem with it, unlike most fans, who immediately flipped shit. The catch is that he had no dialogue. Maybe, if he'd started actually talking, my opinion may have changed. I certainly do have doubts that the guy could sound even remotely threatening. But, then again, I only recently found out that Roxas was Jesse Mcartney, or however you spell his name, so I could be wrong there.
I do begrudgingly admit that the new guy is at least better. Regardless, I don't think that any voice actor so far has captured the entirety of Sephiroth's character. As with Yuna, Tidus, & a few others, I accept it based on this philosophy: You probably aren't going to get perfection.
It isn't so much the country-boy part as it is Cloud's punk appearance versus his style of speech. It's just funny to hear him go into country-mode while dressed in black with spikey hair.
Back to Yuna...I don't have anything to add, so I'll stop here and hope I don't get modded for being off-topic. :>
Cloud was raised in a kind of hick town, Nibelhiem.
But Yuna was also raised in a low populace area on Besaid which was a laid back island resort lets be honest, If she was raised in Bevelle where she was born she masy have been more boisterous and out spoken with her opinions but she was surrounded by pretty relaxed
people.
Which bring me to another point, given that Bevelle is the religious center of Spira you would expect children raised there to be disciplined and well behaved but also being forthright in there demeanour.
With Yuna being taken out of this rigid way of life at a young age and being dropped into the ralaxed nature of Besaid it added to her a lighter side that balanced her outlook on life. These 2 environments gave her calmness and conviction that she displayed in the game.
But Yuna was also raised in a low populace area on Besaid which was a laid back island resort lets be honest, If she was raised in Bevelle where she was born she masy have been more boisterous and out spoken with her opinions but she was surrounded by pretty relaxed
people.
Which bring me to another point, given that Bevelle is the religious center of Spira you would expect children raised there to be disciplined and well behaved but also being forthright in there demeanour.
With Yuna being taken out of this rigid way of life at a young age and being dropped into the ralaxed nature of Besaid it added to her a lighter side that balanced her outlook on life. These 2 environments gave her calmness and conviction that she displayed in the game.
Tom Marvolo Riddle
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I liked her in this game but the problem is i do think she is spineless not telling any1 that she had to sacrifice herself to kill sin, after all she was the high summoner and people did care for her and I just think it wasn't right for her to keep that a secret!
Altair
Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
Ok how can you say she is spineless when she is willing to give her life to protect others. Someone who goes out of their way to kill an enemy and dies doing so enduring that much hardship, is defiantly not spineless.
Yeah exactly like that!
I said pretty much the same thing but in walls of text and maybe a few to many big words.
And then you come along and say it so......simply.....
But your right self sacrifice is the ultimate gift you can bestow on the world, its just yuna chose a course that would have effected everyone on spira and they have the balls to call her spineless! HAH!
I said pretty much the same thing but in walls of text and maybe a few to many big words.
And then you come along and say it so......simply.....
But your right self sacrifice is the ultimate gift you can bestow on the world, its just yuna chose a course that would have effected everyone on spira and they have the balls to call her spineless! HAH!
the ultimate gift would be something that makes the entire world a better place, not necessarily the act of killing yourself - which is
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...and, not spineless, but meek-sounding (to the point where i facepalmed several times). that's my opinion.
what yuna and co discovered after realizing yevon was a scam
...and, not spineless, but meek-sounding (to the point where i facepalmed several times). that's my opinion.
Maybe gift was the wrong word....l think ultimate sacrifice says it better.
Scam?
Thats one way to describe it, making so many people live in fear for the memory of a man who died long ago, trying to the last to save a dead people....the denizens of zanarkand. Sounds a bit more than a "Scam".
There discovery of the truth was set in place by Auron Braska and Jecht, 10 years prior to Yuna, like a self fulfilling prophecy.
Scam?
Thats one way to describe it, making so many people live in fear for the memory of a man who died long ago, trying to the last to save a dead people....the denizens of zanarkand. Sounds a bit more than a "Scam".
There discovery of the truth was set in place by Auron Braska and Jecht, 10 years prior to Yuna, like a self fulfilling prophecy.
I don't think "spineless" is the word I'd use to describe Yuna. She is strong willed and passionate about what she intended to do. She was adamant about what she wanted to do with Seymour, and was determined in her quest to finally bring peace to Spira.
That said, I think people call her spineless because of certain other things, like the way she talked and the way she presented herself. Her voice was very soft, and kinda made her seem a little more weak and flimsy than she actually was.
That said, I think people call her spineless because of certain other things, like the way she talked and the way she presented herself. Her voice was very soft, and kinda made her seem a little more weak and flimsy than she actually was.
a scam composed of lies fathered by the minister (or whatever his name was) and his cohorts, himself being an unsent. keeping the truth from the people so that they buy into false beliefs, falls under my definition of a scam - but! that's for another thread, and another debateGalaxyFlare said:
exactly how i felt. i was often unable to relate to her because of it. i was more or less with tidus in the 'wtf?' department trying to figure out if her dialogue was the truth or if the game was trying to tell me something else through her body language and voice inflections. ...or, maybe it's wrong of me to look at body language in a video game...meh.Robbiedbee said:
i believe that Yuna is one of (if not the) strongest charecter in the game. she has the weight of the world on her shoulders the entire time, along with the fear of loosing her guardians, or letting down the faith. She really shows how un-spineless she is with her speech at the end of the game.
Yuna knows whatsup.
Yuna knows whatsup.
In FFX, Tidus lied to her, she knew, and said nothing. THen he died.
In X-2, Yuna tells the guy who wants to sacrifice himself to fuck off. She's doing things her way.
That's why X Yuna is meek. Perhaps not spineless but certainly a follower more than a leader.
In X-2, Yuna tells the guy who wants to sacrifice himself to fuck off. She's doing things her way.
That's why X Yuna is meek. Perhaps not spineless but certainly a follower more than a leader.
I dont think she was spineless.
sure she did what she was expected of her
but what was expected of her was to stop sin and die doing it
I think she is an incredibly strong, brave, selfless person who wasn't spineless at all
sure she did what she was expected of her
but what was expected of her was to stop sin and die doing it
I think she is an incredibly strong, brave, selfless person who wasn't spineless at all
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I don't agree with this view at all...
I prefer Glow's view...
Yuna went through a lot, became the assertive young woman she could be..she was destined to be....and that is what FFX-2 was about.
I prefer Glow's view...
Yuna went through a lot, became the assertive young woman she could be..she was destined to be....and that is what FFX-2 was about.