[26/06] No Final Fantasy VII Remake Until Original Has Been Topped -- Square Enix CEO

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One, the only way they can screw it up if they change and remove aspects of the old one. Dont talk for ff7 fans if you think being a true ff7 means hate SE more to not want one.

Two. Its not about reliving the memory. Its having a new one.

It's not about hating SE. It's about understanding that the quality of their work is not good enough to have any kind of a remake. And knowing SE they probably WOULD end up changing things removing aspects or the original.

And if it turns out like crap you will have a horrible memory of the game that was based off of a beloved game. To me: a remake right now would be a bad idea no matter how you look at it. It would be a miracle if SE remade FFVII right now and they did it well.


It wouldn't be perfect, no. But I don't think SE would screw the game up either. With a goldmine that VII had proven to be, they would want to make it as perfect as possible, and that would mean following the original to a T, with some inclusions for retcons, voices, graphics, incomplete portions. Why would the game play need an overall? It was perfectly fine.

The thing is, I don't think SE is at a stage where they can perfect a game like the remake of VII. I honestly don't. And if said game were to take away time and effort into future games then I'm against it. My problems with the FFVII remake vary. Obviously I have three points: FFVII has had enough attention, If they remade it from scratch it could be a disaster, and it could take away time and money from developing a new game.

Also in your post you said that SE has remade games and did it well. Weren't those mainly just ports and remastering? They were NOTHING on the scale of what a FFVII remake on a PS3 or PS4 would be. My guess is that SE would look towards making a full blown remake. And that's where it could tarnish thing for the fans.

Personally, that's not my main concern. My main concern is for the other FF titles that are being forgotten, and in many cases are a lot better games than FFVII. I'm not saying those games should necessarily be remade. But I would prefer spinoffs and such for them....
 
What's this I don't even

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80 replies :rage:

It looks like all hell breaks loose when I'm away :mokken:

Okay I guess the arguments can't be considered as flaming yet, so go on. Just try to stay on topic.

Anyway, @Xanell, next time, please provide a date and a non-misleading thread title in SE news section. Thanks! =)
 
See, people keep saying it's going to be one extreme or the other. That it'll either be so shit or it has to be perfect. Why can't it be in the middle? Why can't it just be good? I'd be perfectly fine with a 'good' Remake, depending on how long they spent on it.

I also don't really understand why a remake has so much more weight held to it than a remaster/port does. "Oh it's just got shinier graphics. That's no biggie." From where I'm sitting, that's pretty much the epitome of what fans have been asking of a VII:Re. We saw what they can achieve and look with the success of the films and spin off games and would like to see the original with those graphics and voices.
 
It's not about hating SE. It's about understanding that the quality of their work is not good enough to have any kind of a remake. And knowing SE they probably WOULD end up changing things removing aspects or the original.

And if it turns out like crap you will have a horrible memory of the game that was based off of a beloved game. To me: a remake right now would be a bad idea no matter how you look at it. It would be a miracle if SE remade FFVII right now and they did it well.




The thing is, I don't think SE is at a stage where they can perfect a game like the remake of VII. I honestly don't. And if said game were to take away time and effort into future games then I'm against it. My problems with the FFVII remake vary. Obviously I have three points: FFVII has had enough attention, If they remade it from scratch it could be a disaster, and it could take away time and money from developing a new game.

Also in your post you said that SE has remade games and did it well. Weren't those mainly just ports and remastering? They were NOTHING on the scale of what a FFVII remake on a PS3 or PS4 would be. My guess is that SE would look towards making a full blown remake. And that's where it could tarnish thing for the fans.

Personally, that's not my main concern. My main concern is for the other FF titles that are being forgotten, and in many cases are a lot better games than FFVII. I'm not saying those games should necessarily be remade. But I would prefer spinoffs and such for them....


Ok the only one being "remastered" is FFX. Compared to the rest, they had to remake the 2D sprites and yes, they were remade completely. Ff3 and ff4 were remade even to another extreme by 3D graphics.

And yes, your main concern is "ff7 has had enough attention, i want spin offs and sequels to the others". You should stick to that point even if its ridiculous in my eyes because all the others dont genuinely sound like theyre coming from you. When it comes down to it future ff titles such as ff versus 13 and xv are obviously going to come in. Ffx is getting remastered, which is what? Fine tuning the graphics to be something more suited for vita? And ffx and beyond such as ffxi and ffxii could get remastered too onto vita too. You see ffx is in a different era. The ps1 era seemed more like a phase into transition that the ff games had to go through despite the story.


If you think SE is going to remove things in a remake, then you really dont know SE at all. For remakes SE tends to add MORE.


Yes take time and money making a pottentially horrid game especially if toriyama is making it. Thats about it. The recent games have not been great and every1 is waiting for games such as ff versus 13 and ff xv. But you know what? I could really care less atm. Get it out of the way so they dont have to worry about more delays. All it really is a delay. Also, it didnt take the entire SE staff to make ps3 games such as ff13. Granted it was a large team but

Also dont speak for all fans, your not the majority. Im not the majority.


I really wish some of you can see how ridiculous the "ff7 has had enough attention". Havve you played the entire series? I have except for one that is in japanese phone but i heard i didnt miss out much on the story. Regardless, the story continues on, so even if we get an ff7 remake there is also one more enemy to take care of. Genesis Rhapsodos and potentially weiss together. They are even considering before crisis on 3DS which im sure most fans would prefer it on vita.

I say, get ff7 done, then give attention to the other previous ones too. A ps2 version wouldve been acceptable too back in the day, however i suppose ff7 still has a lot of life even then. Too much attention?

I believe if they focused on Cff7 remake over ff13 we wouldnt be saying "Square enix sucks".
 
We are getting FF10 remastered because this is following the trend called "HD releases", so thats why is 10 that is getting remastered for the vita, because SE lost the chance to release both X and XII (Or X-2) for PS3 so they decided to port it to Vita instead thus making it their fist Vita release wich can be considered lazy from their part but that is another point.

There is so much backtracking you can make, in PS1 era recommending playing a NES game was kinda hard to convince people. Why we dont have "HD" releases of PS1 era games? Because they are too old, the PS2 tittles are more or less low graphics XBOX-360 tittles and thus making it easy to people that like graphics (Wich this generation is more or less about) to play them so citing FFX as an example of a remake for FF7 is pointless.

SE need first to release FFXV and if the game sucks then the i say goodbye to any remakes of previous FF games, and as i said before FF4 and FF3 arent as known as FF7 so SE will use it as a wasy cash in and vomit over 7 legacy, if XV is succesful then they could try but otherwise dont bother.

I prefer that SE tries to improve itself first then you can remake all the games you want, is a little sad that now games that SE only publish instead of developing like Batman, Tomb Raider, Hitman are WAY, WAY better than their next gen FF tittles (some reports say that Type Zero is good).
 
See, people keep saying it's going to be one extreme or the other. That it'll either be so shit or it has to be perfect. Why can't it be in the middle? Why can't it just be good? I'd be perfectly fine with a 'good' Remake, depending on how long they spent on it.

I also don't really understand why a remake has so much more weight held to it than a remaster/port does. "Oh it's just got shinier graphics. That's no biggie." From where I'm sitting, that's pretty much the epitome of what fans have been asking of a VII:Re. We saw what they can achieve and look with the success of the films and spin off games and would like to see the original with those graphics and voices.


But with remakes they can change more than just the graphics. A remastering would be graphic updates and maybe a few add ons. A remake would be rebuilding it from the ground up.


Ok the only one being "remastered" is FFX. Compared to the rest, they had to remake the 2D sprites and yes, they were remade completely. Ff3 and ff4 were remade even to another extreme by 3D graphics.

And yes, your main concern is "ff7 has had enough attention, i want spin offs and sequels to the others". You should stick to that point even if its ridiculous in my eyes because all the others dont genuinely sound like theyre coming from you. When it comes down to it future ff titles such as ff versus 13 and xv are obviously going to come in. Ffx is getting remastered, which is what? Fine tuning the graphics to be something more suited for vita? And ffx and beyond such as ffxi and ffxii could get remastered too onto vita too. You see ffx is in a different era. The ps1 era seemed more like a phase into transition that the ff games had to go through despite the story.


If you think SE is going to remove things in a remake, then you really dont know SE at all. For remakes SE tends to add MORE.


Yes take time and money making a pottentially horrid game especially if toriyama is making it. Thats about it. The recent games have not been great and every1 is waiting for games such as ff versus 13 and ff xv. But you know what? I could really care less atm. Get it out of the way so they dont have to worry about more delays. All it really is a delay. Also, it didnt take the entire SE staff to make ps3 games such as ff13. Granted it was a large team but

Also dont speak for all fans, your not the majority. Im not the majority.


I really wish some of you can see how ridiculous the "ff7 has had enough attention". Havve you played the entire series? I have except for one that is in japanese phone but i heard i didnt miss out much on the story. Regardless, the story continues on, so even if we get an ff7 remake there is also one more enemy to take care of. Genesis Rhapsodos and potentially weiss together. They are even considering before crisis on 3DS which im sure most fans would prefer it on vita.

I say, get ff7 done, then give attention to the other previous ones too. A ps2 version wouldve been acceptable too back in the day, however i suppose ff7 still has a lot of life even then. Too much attention?

I believe if they focused on Cff7 remake over ff13 we wouldnt be saying "Square enix sucks".

Those games were remade onto the Nintendo DS and PSP. That's no where NEAR the scale of a PS3 remake for a game of FFVII's caliber. Not even CLOSE. It's going to take a lot of work to start over on FFVII. And with the PS3 they're going to want to make it bigger and grander. Much more than FF3 (a game that the general population could care less about). FFVII is a very popular title that even casual gamers know about. They're not going to do a simple 'let's just update the graphics' type job.

And my other points ARE coming from me. I've made these points in the past to other FFVII fans who whine and moan for a remake all the time. It's extremely annoying.

"When it comes down to it future ff titles such as ff versus 13 and xv are obviously going to come in."

Sure. And a FFVII remake would delay Versus 10 more years. :gonk:

"Ffx is getting remastered, which is what? Fine tuning the graphics to be something more suited for vita? And ffx and beyond such as ffxi and ffxii could get remastered too onto vita too. You see ffx is in a different era. The ps1 era seemed more like a phase into transition that the ff games had to go through despite the story. "

Remastering =/= remake. FFX remastering will take all of a year to complete. Or at least it should. And it wouldn't cost as much as a remake. PS2 graphics are superior to PS1, hence why FFX would be chosen first. But honestly? FFX does not need a remaster or a remake either. But when I heard the news I was concerned for the exact same reasons because I thought they were completely remaking the game.


"Also dont speak for all fans, your not the majority. Im not the majority."

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself. These are my opinions.

"I say, get ff7 done, then give attention to the other previous ones too. A ps2 version wouldve been acceptable too back in the day, however i suppose ff7 still has a lot of life even then. Too much attention?"

Yes, FFVII has gotten way too much attention. 3 spinoffs, a full length CGI movie, an anime, novellas, manga, etc.

"I believe if they focused on Cff7 remake over ff13 we wouldnt be saying "Square enix sucks"."

You can believe that if you want. But I doubt it. The team who developed FF13 would have been working on FFVII remake. Who in their right minds would have wanted that? And I'm not saying SE sucks....I'm just saying they're no where near where they used to be. And that's the truth.

 
We are getting FF10 remastered because this is following the trend called "HD releases", so thats why is 10 that is getting remastered for the vita, because SE lost the chance to release both X and XII (Or X-2) for PS3 so they decided to port it to Vita instead thus making it their fist Vita release wich can be considered lazy from their part but that is another point.

I'm pretty sure they're re-releasing it for the PS3 AND Vita. Unless that's changed in the past few months.
 
But with remakes they can change more than just the graphics. A remastering would be graphic updates and maybe a few add ons. A remake would be rebuilding it from the ground up.
Not really, remakes vary. Remastering is just fine-tuning the graphics they already have, For example: Shadow of the Collosus was remastered for ps3 (however ICO was remade slightly to be more puzzling) The only one being remastered significantly is ffx because its the only one that is 3D.You didnt even know what remastering was:
Remastering =/= remake. FFX remastering will take all of a year to complete. Or at least it should. And it wouldn't cost as much as a remake. PS2 graphics are superior to PS1, hence why FFX would be chosen first. But honestly? FFX does not need a remaster or a remake either. But when I heard the news I was concerned for the exact same reasons because I thought they were completely remaking the game.
Those games were remade onto the Nintendo DS and PSP. That's no where NEAR the scale of a PS3 remake for a game of FFVII's caliber. Not even CLOSE. It's going to take a lot of work to start over on FFVII. And with the PS3 they're going to want to make it bigger and grander. Much more than FF3 (a game that the general population could care less about). FFVII is a very popular title that even casual gamers know about. They're not going to do a simple 'let's just update the graphics' type job.
Casual players know of ff7. But most of them never played it. And the point is that those games were in fact remade. Ff7 specifically is common to know of among fans. And rarely outside the ff fanbase. We dont hear ppl saying "wow ff11 is the game you have to play" and thats an MMO. And i bet they will make it grander. And that sounds great.
And my other points ARE coming from me. I've made these points in the past to other FFVII fans who whine and moan for a remake all the time. It's extremely annoying.
They dont sound like it. They dont sound very convincing coming from you.
Sure. And a FFVII remake would delay Versus 10 more years. :gonk:
Do you intentionally ignore when people counter this point? we all want versus and depending if Agnis philosophy is ff15 or not, we might want ff15 too. You say future games in general, but if thats true dont bother mentioning any games in specific. Really, because it makes you look like you dont care if your point is countered. You will just say what ppl already agreed but in a more arrogant way.We want an ff7 too in general and this is most appropriate in this thread. So obviously we want one. However we arent saying "we prefer ff7 remake over versus" So stop saying what we been saying just to make it look like re:ff7 beggers arrogant. It only makes you
I'm not speaking for anyone but myself. These are my opinions.
yeah you are, you are saying a true ff7 fans shouldnt want a remake. But this is coming from the same person who says "ff7 has gotten too much attention"
Yes, FFVII has gotten way too much attention. 3 spinoffs, a full length CGI movie, an anime, novellas, manga, etc.
It was all part of the Compilation of FF7. A series of ff7 games. Of course it got a lot of attention and praise. And i enjoyed all of them even dirge of cerberus (maybe because i didnt approached it as a First person shooter), but we didnt even get the novella. There isnt an official manga. And we got 2 spin offs, the third didnt make it outside japan. So why should the ones that never made it to us.Point is, its gotten sequels and prequels and theyre all connected and leading to something. Once ff7 gets remade there is still one more game needed.
You can believe that if you want. But I doubt it. The team who developed FF13 would have been working on FFVII remake. Who in their right minds would have wanted that? And I'm not saying SE sucks....I'm just saying they're no where near where they used to be. And that's the truth.
Does it even matter? The quality has dropped because they focused too much on graphics and really the development team should not be accountable for Toriyama's approach. What games have they messed up that isnt connected to Toriyama? I cant blame SE completely. To say SE sucks is just the choices they made and the focus on 13 really ruined things. And 14 thought "hey if 13 is this bad, then we can make it just as bad and get money" which was really bad. Other than that, the only thing i blame is promoting toriyama to director. The only mainstream games areAnd your comment is contradicting.
See, people keep saying it's going to be one extreme or the other. That it'll either be so shit or it has to be perfect. Why can't it be in the middle? Why can't it just be good? I'd be perfectly fine with a 'good' Remake, depending on how long they spent on it. I also don't really understand why a remake has so much more weight held to it than a remaster/port does. "Oh it's just got shinier graphics. That's no biggie." From where I'm sitting, that's pretty much the epitome of what fans have been asking of a VII:Re. We saw what they can achieve and look with the success of the films and spin off games and would like to see the original with those graphics and voices.
Its because they think ff7 has had alot of attention. The rest of the points contradict themselves.
 
@PhoenyxAngel
Dont worry you will be dead by the time FF7 remake gets released, hopefully Versus will be released when you have 80.

@Razberry Knight
Dont worry SOMEDAY a FF7 remake will be made, that you live enough to play it is another history.

My point is that a FF7 remake will by made wheter we want or not, hopefully i will be dead by the time SE actually makes it and Ruin the game completely, i will R.I.P.
 
Haha... Yoichi Wada always cracks me up. He always tells the best jokes.

But if he wants to give his team a point in the right direction here's a clue: trolling your players and making a game with a shitty story that has no closure and a middle finger for completing all sidequests is probably the best way to alienate your once regular consumers.
 
@PhoenyxAngelDont worry you will be dead by the time FF7 remake gets released, hopefully Versus will be released when you have 80.@Razberry Knight Dont worry SOMEDAY a FF7 remake will be made, that you live enough to play it is another history.My point is that a FF7 remake will by made wheter we want or not, hopefully i will be dead by the time SE actually makes it and Ruin the game completely, i will R.I.P.
If toriyama directs it? Yes. However hating SE is overrated.
 
If toriyama directs it? Yes. However hating SE is overrated.

Do you buy a lawnmower without an engine? Do you buy a big mac without the burger? do you watch a movie without audio? do you buy a hooker without a pussy? Would you pay full price, or more for those things?

Would you be angry with someone who tried to sell you these things by being deceitful?

There you go.

But I wouldn't go as far as saying anyone "hates" SE. They are just very, very disappointed.
 
Makes sense. :hmmm:

I mean, why destroy a good game by making it into a remake that just follows the same bad quality mold that the other games they've been putting out have had. If they messed up VII there'd be a big backlash from fans of the original. Quite honestly, as a VII fan I think this is a good move. I'd much rather see them get back on top with their games before they touched a classic. (this or VI)

Good move on SE's part. :hmmm:

The next time I want to hear about a VII remake is only after they've finally released Verses. :hmph:
 
Makes sense. :hmmm:

I mean, why destroy a good game by making it into a remake that just follows the same bad quality mold that the other games they've been putting out have had. If they messed up VII there'd be a big backlash from fans of the original. Quite honestly, as a VII fan I think this is a good move. I'd much rather see them get back on top with their games before they touched a classic. (this or VI)

Good move on SE's part. :hmmm:

The next time I want to hear about a VII remake is only after they've finally released Verses. :hmph:

Exactly, SE right now is showing some signs of intelligence.

I dont hate SE i just loathe the way that the company has been managed HOWEVER i will really hate SE if the rumored XIII triquel becomes true.
 
Not really, remakes vary. Remastering is just fine-tuning the graphics they already have,

And that's what they're doing with FFX. So why bring it up? It's not the same as remaking an entire game.

They dont sound like it. They dont sound very convincing coming from you.

Yeah, well they ARE my opinions. And I could care less if they don't sound convincing to you.

Do you intentionally ignore when people counter this point? we all want versus and depending if Agnis philosophy is ff15 or not, we might want ff15 too. You say future games in general, but if thats true dont bother mentioning any games in specific. Really, because it makes you look like you dont care if your point is countered. You will just say what ppl already agreed but in a more arrogant way.We want an ff7 too in general and this is most appropriate in this thread. So obviously we want one. However we arent saying "we prefer ff7 remake over versus" So stop saying what we been saying just to make it look like re:ff7 beggers arrogant. It only makes you

You haven't countered the point though!! If FFVII is remade now IT WILL PUSH VERSUS XIII TO THE BACKBURNER. This is not a matter of opinion, it's the truth. We have been waiting six damn years for the game. To add FFVII remake right now would be down right insulting to those who have been waiting for it.

What's the difference between Versus and FFVII? FFVII has already been made. Versus hasn't. Therefor, make Versus first. What part of this are you not understanding?

yeah you are, you are saying a true ff7 fans shouldnt want a remake. But this is coming from the same person who says "ff7 has gotten too much attention" It was all part of the Compilation of FF7. A series of ff7 games. Of course it got a lot of attention and praise.

IN MY OPINION it's gotten way too much attention and praise. Please take note of the fact that this is MY OPINION. And it's not only my opinion, but the opinion of a lot of FF fans who are tired of all the attention FFVII gets when it wasn't even the best in the series.

The quality has dropped because they focused too much on graphics

Exactly. What do you think would happen with FFVII:Re?

And your comment is contradicting. Its because they think ff7 has had alot of attention. The rest of the points contradict themselves.

Please explain to me how these three points contradict themselves.

1.) FFVII has gotten too much attention, enough already.
2.) If they did make it and screw it up, the fans would be extremely angry and it would tarnish their memories of the original
3.) Future games take precedence over games that have already been made.

Please show me where/how these points contradict each other.
 
Makes sense. :hmmm:I mean, why destroy a good game by making it into a remake that just follows the same bad quality mold that the other games they've been putting out have had. If they messed up VII there'd be a big backlash from fans of the original. Quite honestly, as a VII fan I think this is a good move. I'd much rather see them get back on top with their games before they touched a classic. (this or VI)Good move on SE's part. :hmmm:The next time I want to hear about a VII remake is only after they've finally released Verses. :hmph:
Basically you dont see any potential but several others do. Including me. And im not saying this is a bad move. And next time you hear ff7 remake it better be after versus? Then you better darn well ignore every single piece of news or any status related to ff7 remake. Gameplay is no where I can COMPLETELY UNDDERSTAND if you here news of another game and some random guy says "screw this game, we want ff7 remake" but here? Where it directly relates to that? Just ignore where it can be ignored.Can you guys please stop acting arrogant....really. You guys say "oh hey i want future games" but then say "se will screw it up anyways look at the things they screwed up".Doesnt mean we still want one.
 
It's not really arrogance. It's just that we want SE to focus hard on a game and not take on so many that they half ass them all (remakes, and remasters, and spinoffs...oh my!). They don't need to do all this crap at once. A remaster here or there is fine. But PLEASE, for the love of all that is holy: make the games you announced in the previous decade! No more distractions!!
 
And that's what they're doing with FFX. So why bring it up? It's not the same as remaking an entire game.
your the one blwing it out of proportion.
You haven't countered the point though!! If FFVII is remade now IT WILL PUSH VERSUS XIII TO THE BACKBURNER. This is not a matter of opinion, it's the truth. We have been waiting six damn years for the game. To add FFVII remake right now would be down right insulting to those who have been waiting for it.
We want Versus FIRST!!!!!!GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!! Theres no fricken argument there!!!! That point is countered. Its worthless!!!! Because we both ff versus FIRST!!!!! Thats no reason to not want an ff7 remake.God...must i say it in cave man? Ok just in case you dont. Ugh...wants...ff7...but prefer...uggghhh....versus XIII to be finished....but wants ff7 ugh...eventually.
What's the difference between Versus and FFVII? FFVII has already been made. Versus hasn't. Therefor, make Versus first. What part of this are you not understanding?
its you who isnt understanding. We want versus 13 too!!! Why say "I dont want final fantasy 7 remake EVER because i want versus 13 RIGHT NOW!!!" It ticks me off sooo fricken much that this important point cant get in any1's head. We dont want them to remake it right now. We just want one eventually. Yes i overdone your heavily exagerated imitation of you. But its for you to understand.We want an ff7 in general. Do you know what im trying to say?
IN MY OPINION it's gotten way too much attention and praise. Please take note of the fact that this is MY OPINION. And it's not only my opinion, but the opinion of a lot of FF fans who are tired of all the attention FFVII gets when it wasn't even the best in the series.
Yeah. But its really not a debatable one. Its pointless to point it out if it doesnt matter. Basically say "i dont want one for my own personal view of ff7 (and that alone)"
Exactly. What do you think would happen with FFVII:Re?
Do you honestly care to see it at a different perspective? I can, with detail but thats only if its not listened sarcastically.
Please explain to me how these three points contradict themselves.1.) FFVII has gotten too much attention, enough already.2.) If they did make it and screw it up, the fans would be extremely angry and it would tarnish their memories of the original3.) Future games take precedence over games that have already been made.Please show me where/how these points contradict each other.
2 and 3. Number 1 is the only one influencing all over. The others are just secondry opinions to make a decent argument but you cant stand by 2 and 3 at the same time.
 
Basically you dont see any potential but several others do. Including me. And im not saying this is a bad move. And next time you hear ff7 remake it better be after versus? Then you better darn well ignore every single piece of news or any status related to ff7 remake. Gameplay is no where I can COMPLETELY UNDDERSTAND if you here news of another game and some random guy says "screw this game, we want ff7 remake" but here? Where it directly relates to that? Just ignore where it can be ignored.Can you guys please stop acting arrogant....really. You guys say "oh hey i want future games" but then say "se will screw it up anyways look at the things they screwed up".Doesnt mean we still want one.

What in the actual ef is going on in this post? :lew: Why are you freaking out? No need for that, dude. ;) There's always potential but right now, they're not making good enough games for them to go and try and use their "quality" of creating games on a classic game that's loved by millions. They're not up for it right now. They have to master this generation of SE games before they can even try to REMAKE something from the past that was kick ass, fun, and loved.

If the man in charge thinks this about his own games then that's that. Nothin' else to say.
 
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