[26/06] No Final Fantasy VII Remake Until Original Has Been Topped -- Square Enix CEO

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How much people want FF7 to be killed lol.

I say that they should focus entirely on correcting its former great series with 15.

And no Cloud from 7 to is different from children, this is why loathe the very idea, i liked advent children but Cloud was just fucked up, he is nothing like he was in 7.
 
kratoscar2008 said:
How much people want FF7 to be killed lol.

I say that they should focus entirely on correcting its former great series with 15.

And no Cloud from 7 to is different from children, this is why loathe the very idea, i liked advent children but Cloud was just fucked up, he is nothing like he was in 7.
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If you saw interview with tetsuya nomura on AC. You would know that clouds personality was changed (not retconned) and following the story off ff7 you can see how that happened. In the tech demo he had a lot more personality.

I say we will focus on ff15 when its announced and when theres a thread NOT relating to ff7 remake status.
 
kratoscar2008 said:
How much people want FF7 to be killed lol.

I say that they should focus entirely on correcting its former great series with 15.

And no Cloud from 7 to is different from children, this is why loathe the very idea, i liked advent children but Cloud was just fucked up, he is nothing like he was in 7.
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If you read what I said before . How exactly can final fantasy 7 be killed? The remake fails too bad.. Dont play it , stick to the original, ignore that it ever existed, its supposed to replace the original and if it failed it will be left aside end of story. How is that going to ruin ff7
 
Omegadruid said:
If you read what I said before . How exactly can final fantasy 7 be killed? The remake fails too bad.. Dont play it , stick to the original, ignore that it ever existed, its supposed to replace the original and if it failed it will be left aside end of story. How is that going to ruin ff7
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Perception is the key, what you remember of the game formed the perception you had of the characters and the world and you can tell that my perception of this game is high. Now i watched advent Children and altough i enjoyed the movie i loathed Cloud, i know that his attitude is due the events of FF7 BUT i think SE could had managed to give another kind of personality change that could have made it appear less of a Douche to him.

Like with Auron, he too lost a friend (Friends in his case) but i think that Auron relationship with his friends were Way bigger than the one of Cloud and Aerith, and he managed to be the coolest character in the game, Cloud on the other hand makes me mad everytime he ignores Tifa and acts like a Douche.

Another thing is that new gamers this day dont like classics turn based system of most rpgs from FF7 era and i bet SE will change the gameplay completely and given how shitty was the paradigm Shit i dont whant to think what kind of uselles battle system they will come to.

In all i want that FF7 remain as a classic and i want all classics to stay like that, i have played 7 enough to not give it another try soon but anytime i feel the urge i play it and then i remember why i love it and whant to stay like that.

SE is better focusing to restore their former glory unless they do it they arent allowed to touch FF7.
 
kratoscar2008 said:
Perception is the key, what you remember of the game formed the perception you had of the characters and the world and you can tell that my perception of this game is high. Now i watched advent Children and altough i enjoyed the movie i loathed Cloud, i know that his attitude is due the events of FF7 BUT i think SE could had managed to give another kind of personality change that could have made it appear less of a Douche to him.
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:hmph:

"Douche" and Cloud should never be in the same sentence, and Cloud has always been like that, ever since FFVII, Advemt Children just made him...mopy-er. If we wanted Cloud to act like Zack we'd play Crisis Core...no thanks that's why every one complains about FFVII (your a side-story for a reason CC)

Like with Auron, he too lost a friend (Friends in his case) but i think that Auron relationship with his friends were Way bigger than the one of Cloud and Aerith, and he managed to be the coolest character in the game, Cloud on the other hand makes me mad everytime he ignores Tifa and acts like a Douche.
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:hmph:

I think they'd leave the game just the way it was; the only problem is they'd likely alter the story to fit post-Crisis Core Ret-cons involving Zack etc. etc. THIS is what would ruin the game.

Even if they make a remake, its no slack off anyone back who DIDN'T want one, just don't buy it; simple as that, the only one who loses anything whether or not a remake be made; is Square Enix. I for one, would love a remake -- and I played it when it was new, my feelings won't change for the original even if a remake is crappy.
 
I s h t a r said:
:hmph:

"Douche" and Cloud should never be in the same sentence, and Cloud has always been like that, ever since FFVII, Advemt Children just made him...mopy-er. If we wanted Cloud to act like Zack we'd play Crisis Core...no thanks that's why every one complains about FFVII (your a side-story for a reason CC)



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Not really, After Cloud discovers himself thanks to Tifa he acts great not like in FF7AC and since CC is a new game prequel that came after AC then they printed Cloud personality of the movie in the game, in the end is the same they fucked Cloud.

At the end it doesnt matter what we want FF7 remake wont come in this lifetime, i will hunt SE WHEN they screw it.
 
kratoscar2008 said:
Not really, After Cloud discovers himself thanks to Tifa he acts great not like in FF7AC and since CC is a new game prequel that came after AC then they printed Cloud personality of the movie in the game, in the end is the same they fucked Cloud.

At the end it doesnt matter what we want FF7 remake wont come in this lifetime, i will hunt SE WHEN they screw it.
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not even close...cc cloud and ac cloud are completely different.
 
Ok ok ok back on the topic... This isn't what Cloud is different or the same or whatever...

I know I helped put this thing off topic, so I am to blame too... but lets get this back on the topic right now...

Conclusion... Square won't be making a FFVII remake anytime soon.
 
IM sorry but if you paid attention to the story crisis core sets cloud's ff7 personality when he is basically impersonating zack for most of the game.. Crisis core is 100% faithful to the original (as far as I know atleast..)
 
kratoscar2008 said:
Of course they are the same, the difference is that the AC cloud is the personality changed Cloud from CC instead of the FF7 ps1 one.
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You dont know what you are talking about.

Cloud in CC he was a young and had alot of personality. Had a great friendship with Zack that we didnt see him ever have with any character. The only time he was slightly emo was when he returned to nibelheim and tifa got hurt. Then we got to see the rage we didnt see in AC when sephiroth burned down the village.

In AC he was a complete introvert. He wanted to bear everything alone and was all about being forgiven for what he couldnt help. He basically saw himself as a failure.

Either way...i dont really care if ff7 gets a new perspective. Its going to give aspects we couldnt percieve for the lack of voice acting, facial expressions and many more.

For all we know, our original perspective was nothing what SE had in mind. So if they give us a new perspective good. And if you see nothing has changed then oh well.

And turn based games still popular. The issue is theyh dont go well with realistic graphics. I think updating it to be more closer too Crisis Core's gameplay but with party and switching characters would automatically set themto AI.it could work nicely (and ofcourse no DMW). But even if it was turn base, it'll still be entertaining. The problem with ff13 it focused more on team being AI all the time and atb system isnt at its best when its mostly AI controlled.
 
Wish I had a psp cause it seems Crisis Core is a great game, many praise it. Zack is in it. Cloud has no personality whatsoever man. His love interest died by the hands of Sephi, but did he really love Aerith? Or was it a part of Zack tht still did. Why does he keep brushing ofg such a hot lady Tifa big tits?
He must be supergay emo.

I agree Cloud is a douche and Zack rules! :trollface:


Versus first then remakes I would embrace if done proper.
Worldmap
Vehicles/ships/aircrafts
Great VA's
Not turnbased anymore imo. FFxII battlesystem or KH's
Enemies must be seen in real time
Summons harder to get

Hmmm without turnbased is there really a place for a worldmap?
Damn :hmmm:
 
Razberry Knight said:
Either way...i dont really care if ff7 gets a new perspective. Its going to give aspects we couldnt percieve for the lack of voice acting, facial expressions and many more.
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Please tell me that you were drunk when typed that :)
FF7 is perfect as it was and no voice acting can inprove it it can only make it worse. This seems like with the Half-Life franchise were most people say that the game could be better if Freeman talked but the game is already perfect as it drawn you into the game world witouth the need of a talking protagonist and some scenes are stronger when the MC doesnt make cheese lines, and obviously whoever said that is not a half life fan and didnt apreciated the game for what truly was.

Please turn your FF7 fan ID when you leave, thank you.
 
kratoscar2008 said:
Please tell me that you were drunk when typed that :)
FF7 is perfect as it was and no voice acting can inprove it it can only make it worse. This seems like with the Half-Life franchise were most people say that the game could be better if Freeman talked but the game is already perfect as it drawn you into the game world witouth the need of a talking protagonist and some scenes are stronger when the MC doesnt make cheese lines, and obviously whoever said that is not a half life fan and didnt apreciated the game for what truly was.

Please turn your FF7 fan ID when you leave, thank you.
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Why? Simply because we get to use our imagination on the emotion. Ff7 is perfect for a playstation game but like i said before. As time passes not even the graphically tolerant person can say ff7 is vissually appealing.

And regardless of what you think is a true ff7 fan, many ff7 fans continue to want one. And all those things drew ppl in because voice acting in RPGs was still new around that time. I love ff7 and i feel incredibly nostalgic playing it but times change, and the more time goes on the more heavily apparent the games ff7, 8, and (maybe) 9 have been really just a transition between old ff (2D 16-32bit styled games) and new ff (3D refined design and distinguishable characters).


Its old ff, but not trully in the field of classics. You dont know what an ff7 fan is. You cant even tell the obvious difference between CC cloud and AC cloud.
 
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Ohri-Jin said:
Wish I had a psp cause it seems Crisis Core is a great game, many praise it. Zack is in it. Cloud has no personality whatsoever man. His love interest died by the hands of Sephi, but did he really love Aerith? Or was it a part of Zack tht still did. Why does he keep brushing ofg such a hot lady Tifa big tits?
He must be supergay emo.

I agree Cloud is a douche and Zack rules! :trollface:
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I lol'd. Though seriously, Crisis Core is a good game. I won't deny that. And Zack has a better character and personality than Cloud. I have nothing against Cloud, but I just like Zack better.
 
Razberry Knight said:
Why? Simply because we get to use our imagination on the emotion. Ff7 is perfect for a playstation game but like i said before. As time passes not even the graphically tolerant person can say ff7 is vissually appealing.

And regardless of what you think is a true ff7 fan, many ff7 fans continue to want one. And all those things drew ppl in because voice acting in RPGs was still new around that time. I love ff7 and i feel incredibly nostalgic playing it but times change, and the more time goes on the more heavily apparent the games ff7, 8, and (maybe) 9 have been really just a transition between old ff (2D 16-32bit styled games) and new ff (3D refined design and distinguishable characters).


Its old ff, but not trully in the field of classics. You dont know what an ff7 fan is. You cant even tell the obvious difference between CC cloud and AC cloud.
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You got me in that one Cloud, really it has been around 5 years or so since the last time i played 7, Crisis and watched advent, maybe i dont really like Cloud and is Zack that i like as only remember clearly the douche Cloud from crisis.

Either way i dont get the fuss about graphics im playing some classics that i never touched in my ps1 era and they are great, heck i even went and played the nes FFIII and is great an thats old school, no graphics overhaul could change that.

gamers these days likes to be spoon feeded on everything and dont like to use theyre imagination so i say they dont deserve to play classics like FF7 or suikoden.
 
"No human is above the animal, thats just Arrogance"
Using your own quote lets see hipocrisy in your statements
"gamers these days likes to be spoon feeded on everything and dont like to use theyre imagination so i say they dont deserve to play classics like FF7 or suikoden."
Basically you think the old gaming generation as described, above the new gaming generation. Its like saying that a the old gaming generation is the human and the new player generation is the animal. And in that you are basically saying that you are above them so they dont deserve to play classics.Therefore you are being arrogant. Oh the irony.
 
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Well not that this thread needs another reply, but I will post one anyways back onto the original topic.

I have two sides to the topic. My logical and reasonable side says, "No. Don't need a remake, the game was great the way it was and it will be hard to live up to it." And then my fangirling, Cloud loving side says "OMG PLEASE I NEED TO SEE CLOUD IN HIGH DEF AGAIN I WANT TO SEE HIS OMNISLASSSSSHHHH MAYBE HIS SHIRT CAN FLY OFF DURING HIS LIMIT BREAK???"

So overall, I think it's fine. SE is focusing on other games right now *Versusversuspleaaaaseversus*. Once they make a game that really hits with people, then they can focus on a remake and use some of the aspects from the great game they just made. That way they can please everybody! :yay: So while I personally would like to see a remake maybe someday, it's definitely not needed and they need to focus on other games.
 
You're......you're trying to go back "on topic"?

Woah. That just blew my mind.

:P

Ok, back on topic everyone! There will not be a FFVII remake until SE can get their act together and create a game that is better than VII. You thoughts on this?
 
My thoughts on this.. I call their intentions bullshit. They are trying to force people that want a ff7 remake to buy their games so that there will be a higher chance of SE acknowledging that they reached the QUALITY POINT. How exactly are they going to decide when they made a better game then ff7.. Oh wait must be when the sales are better but that will never happen so whatever xD.
You know what I call this
SQUARE ENIX - LIMIT BREAK:
-Bullshitslash money magnet stupid statement
 
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