Well, I can't speak for every cloti out there, but the one's I speak to seem to back up that generalization. Especially the women, they always say how they can relate to Tifa in a lot of ways, so of course they'd want Cloud to be with someone like them.Kaleta said:
IMO, those guys who like cloti because tifa is more sexual is actually picturing themselves as Cloud as he is the object of her affection. So thus technically, cloti isnt the name they should call it, more like Meoti. Those who actually are talking about the pairing will mostly accept Clorith cause its a pure love. Who the hell wants a love based on how big the girls boobs are, apart from those shallow ones?
The girls imo who love cloti are girls who WANT to be like Tifa. They want to have everything about her. The fact shes hot and can fight can bring you endless joys for your imagination. They are suckers for a love that is one sided. They also like the thought of childhood friends, especially with a hottie like Cloud.
Ahh, goodness, the "Cloud can't function without her part" is so dead on, Val.Kaleta said:
I know several guys who like clorith, 3 of them are in the cxa forums and the others are RL friends. They like it cause they say they are a sucker for a tragic love ( but admit its love ), they like the fact that Cloud cant function without her properly which shows how much he feels about her, and the fact that they are yin and yang, balancing each other.
Exactly. If SE believes in love after death, then my golly I will too.Kaleta said:Thats sick =/ It only applies to Cloud and Aerith cause its one of their stupid ideas to deny it. Well sorry dude, whether you think its necrophiliac or not canon, doesnt mean it is. Your opinion < SE's.
Exactly, Val. Tifa might have the numbers in sizes, but Aerith's got the personality and, again, in my honest opinion, I think Aerith is the prettiest FF girl. But that's just me xDKaleta said:Body wise, Tifa owns. Face wise, Aerith owns. Physical fighting, Tifa owns. Magical fighting, Aerith owns. Personality wise, Aerith. She's optimistic, open and always happy no matter what. Tifa is secretive, doubtful and hidden. The manuals may say Tifa is optimistic and whatever, but it also says that Cloud is a SOLIDER, which he is not. So the same applies to Tifa.
Lol, yeah! Good point, Val. Not to mention, Aerith has a secret counter attack--known as Cloud the bodyguard. He would be able to protect her, for sure.Kaleta said:People think Aerith is weak cause you dont see her fighting much, but fawk im sure if you pit aerith agaisnt tifa, Aerith will win. Not only could tifa NOT hit aerith, IF she could aerith would out heal her. And the day Tifa can dodge Holy, is the day i become president.
waitress girl said:I find Aerith attractive, she's sexy in my opinion -- she's just not sexual, there is a difference, I think. A woman can be sexy without being sexual. Aerith has exotic eyes, porcelain skin, very luscious hair, sexy hips and obviously a good butt, these are all of the things that make her sexy -- I think Tifa and Aerith are sexy in their own ways.
Aeriths sexy in a mysterious way, she's the kind of sexy that makes women admire her.
But anyway I don't think the sexiness of either woman should cause people to ship said pair, I think it should depend on the facts. If people are pairing Cloud off with Tifa simply cause she turns them on; then I don't know what to say.
(your turk i'm j.d.)
Great point, and I agree. Just cuz Aerith doesn't dress skimpy doesn't make her less sexy. And I agree again, how each woman looks shouldn't matter. But it sadly happens. :/
Yes! Exactly. They do that with certain facts that they know stump them(Maiden, CoL:W, the commercials, etc) so they can deny what's what. Which... I still don't get. Doing that won't make the other ship canon or something. xDwaitress girl said:Its not being missed, its being ignored in my opinion. Its suits people better if they can sweep certain things under the rug.
Ooh, you remind me, Aerith just won some gaming site's first place for "Top Ten babes that are out of your league" she got number 1 and Tifa wasn't even on the list, lol. So everyone can take that and their "tifa's sexier" commentsLoveless Doll said:Same here
In my mind, Aerith always at number 1!
Everytime I talked with my guy friends, I could really get pissed off if they "involuntary" said something insulting Aerith just for their "hot hot babe Tifa" and I would make sure they couldn't sleep well that night
Exactly. It's just not fair. If Yuna and Tidus can do it, so can Cloud and Aerith.Tsukimori said:Yeah, everyone was fine with Yuna loving Tidus even though he was gone, but all of the sudden it's taboo for Cloud to love Aerith even though she's gone :/
Exactly. And it just so happens Cloud thinks Aerith's eyes are impressive, thinks her smile is like a flower, and thinks her laugh and eyes are innocent.Tsukimori said:Agreed. At the end of the day, it's all about what Cloud thinks about her.
Waitress Girl said:I think people just don't want to accept that Cloud will always love Aerith, and would like better off for Tifa not to be Cloud...erm..for lack of a better expression, second choice...if he even got with her.
I think even Nomura have cmpared Tidus and Yuna to Cloud and Aerith before, its a vague memory but I feintly remember it.
You dare speak of Nomura doing so and you shan't bring this glorious thing upon us? You shall be smittened--err, smitted(??) well, you get what I'm meaning.
But yeah, you're right. Maybe that is it.
Yush, Aerith doesn't seem like the type to attack/fight/hurt people just to do it. Heck, when that guy in honeybee inn was trying to assault her sexually she pushed him down the stairs and apologized as she did it. That doesn't seem like a fighter to me. xDWaitress Girl said:I agree, but I'd hate for people to pit the two against eachother, Aerith would never hurt her friends, but should the battle take place...all bets on Aerith.
Lmao, I completely agree. There's dozens and dozens of anime girls that look like Tifa, but Aerith is rare.Waitress Girl said:I agree, I mean, I am not gay (you know that though ), but Aerith is sexy/ier and I just like her looks more, I mean having a great ass beats having big breast anyday. Tifa doesn't really stand out among the anime cliche of women...Aerith does.
But... thats my opinion I guess
THIS has happened to me so so so many times. So annoying.Kaleta said:Most of our arguments when debating a cloti end up that way. If they cannot argue agaisnt it, the ones i have encountered will sweep it under the carpet and pretend its invalid cause they say so. They will say its canon, but again SE never says that. Thats just them thinking their opinion is as valuable as SE's.
you mean HIS church.It was a picture of them in Aerith's church. Which in all honesty, is what Cloud did want to happen. He didnt even try to fight geostigma and Tifa clearly says to Cloud something along the lines of him giving up and waiting to die. Funny though, the place he wanted to wait and die was Aerith's church ....
Omgoodness, Val. Brilliant point you've brought up. It's true. The LTD isn't about who Cloud will get with as second best, it's who he loves/loved/will carry in his heart forever.They claim that its "healthy" for Cloud to move on. You can be healthy and still love someone who has passed ... There are some who say that Tifa is the second choice, and even if Cloud did love Aerith he HAS to move on with Tifa cause shes the only one left. Well technically thats not what the LT was originally about. Before all the compilation crap came out, the argument was "Who was the ORIGINAL, INTENDED AND CANON couple". Not who will Cloud end up in the end, which if they really want to get into it. Cloud will die and be with Aerith after. End of.
No matter how far you look into the future, Tifa and Cloud could get together and whatever, at the end of the day, he will die and go back to Aerith. Why? Cause they keep saying cause Aerith is with Zack in the lifestream she HAS to go back to him. I say when Cloud meets them in the lifestream he HAS to go back to her. Using their logic agaisnt them one stupid line at a time.
And you're right again, even if Cloud moves on, the woman he'll be reunited with in the lifestream after he dies, will certainly be Aerith. So, Aerith does seem to be the one who wins in the end, even if Cloud settles for second best. :/ which, if he does, would be so sad to see him go through. :C
Why can't SE just bring her back, the rat bastards. Now THAT would be unexpected and would gain a lot of money. 14 years of Aerith being dead is long enough, bring the woman back
Which also got me thinking, the fayths ( is it fayths? dont remember ) brought Tidus back, if FF7 also gets them or the two worlds somehow get connected, im pretty sure Aerith can come back too. Since both SHE and Cloud did save the planet. And the fayths gave Tidus back to Yuna cause of the stuff she did for her planet.
and that theory. It's totally possible, too. Ah, goodness, could you imagine it. Man, to see Cloud's face when that happened would be so priceless.
Doh, those are my favorite comments. Just like there was some french game show that kept referring to Aerith as Cloud's girlfriend, and stuff. So kawaii.When i went to ACTUAL NEUTRAL final fantasy forums, most of the people who discuss about the game all say Aerith is Cloud's girlfriend. Even on my ragnarok forum which a HATER of the game claims that Clouds motivation to kill sephy cause he killed his girlfriend is really "pathetic". Even though he mocks the characters, hes quite accurate in stating their roles.