bitteroldman
Turk reject. SeeD dropout. Member in good standing
Ya see? this is what's wrong with kids these days... they come onto a post several pages in, and fail to read the early parts. Uninformed whelpPosting would be so much easier if the admins and moderators held as much value to insignificant posts like the one you're reading now as they do in articles pasted as posts. The act of taking the time to find something like this and not posting anything about your opinions on the matter... makes me at the fact that you even took the effort to do so. Does this reflect anything you agree or disagree with? What are your thoughts on it? Damn whippersnapper.
Dude, I've been a fair ray of sunshine to this thread since before your mama had her choice.
Hon, 21 weeks=just about five months.Ive SEEN the article tyvm Biteroldman, thanks, Ive seen it REPEATEDLY now. She survived, Im aware of this, she was over 7. months. gone. Babies can survive at that age, Ive never once denied that OR agreed with people having an abortion at such a late stage, I think it should be lowered. I might as well just copy paste what I said the last TWO times, Im sick of repeating myself now
I do not deny a baby would survive at that stage, but most women find out around the 6 week mark, and generally make the decision to terminate around that time. That 'child' will not survive outside the womb at 6 weeks. I would not allow someone to make me feel like Im some kind of animal by aborting at that EARLY stage
The cut off point for abortions should be lowered, but not made illegal.
PRO-CHOICE
Okay, here's a point that really chaps my liver:If you remove the safe doctor alternative the what will be left? The hangar method, bicycle spoke method maybe even the stair case and for anyone who has access to a computer many more. To be honest abortions are rather easy and can be performed at home in under 10 minutes by someone with no medical experience... Period.
Old Man I will get to that post but I am tired but yeah.
"Ooh! Ooh! Butz if theyz closeded the abortion clinickz, then all the poooor womenz will getz illeeegal abortionz!"
No. No they won't.
1. Making something illegal and enforcing the law automatically drops the participation in any activity. Just to humor you, I'll use the prohibition of alcohol as an example. Alcohol was prohibited because of a staunch believer that it is responsible for many of life's woes, getting into the Oval Office. When it became illegal, I'll grant you that it only started happening behind closed doors. However, participation in drinking WENT WAY THE BLOODS AND CRIPS DOWN.
Having used that example to humor you, methinks it would be a teeny bit more like, say, SMUGGLING. First, you have to be willing to risk getting caught. Then, you have to be well-connected enough to actually know a "fence"/ someone able and willing to kill your unborn child without killing you. Finally, you have to be able to hide the evidence of the act after the crime.
2. NO. Not many doctors are willing to put their license and/or insurance on the line by breaking rules/going against procedure/working off the books. Y'know why? BECAUSE THEY CAN LOSE THEIR LICENSE AND/OR INSURANCE, THEY CAN BE SUED BY THEIR EMPLOYERS AND PATIENTS, AND THEY CAN GO TO PRISON.
3. As to ye olde flinging oneself upon yonder steps...this is very likely to land you in the hospital, where a) they can save your baby and b)you don't want to go, because then your pregnancy is ON THE BOOKS. I'll even throw c) at you: people don't normally self-harm, because that would harmful to oneself.
4. I wouldn't know how easy it is to do your own abortion, or to get a professional abortion done. However, under my laws as bitteroldking, such an act would likely get you in trouble by putting you in the hospital, and you getting caught.
Surely, common sense must tell you that abortions are only so popular because it's so available and easy to get done? I mean, people who HATE abortion get abortions because of an emotional response. It's like hamburger: people only flock to the drive-thru for a Big Mac because it's available, cheap, and easy. But if you make hamburger illegal, not a bunch of folks are gonna go outta their way to slaughter a cow, grind its meat, season and cure it, cook it, and eat it. Once it becomes inconvenient, it doesn't sound like such a hot idea after all.
Finally, why the heck isn't anyone educated on what their baby/fetus/embryo/junior is/looks like/etc? The abortion providers, to my knowledge, try everything they can to keep their patients ignorant of all the facts. They tell them about the procedure and after-care, and that's it. This isn't like getting a manicure; a little insider knowledge should be shared here. Planned Parenthood even fought against allowing certain pamphlets on the development of an unborn child some years back, if I'm not too senile. That's just dorky and wrong.
When I'm bitteroldking, there will be thorough education on the matter. And there will be proper programs to help these scared girls/women get the support they need to improve their lives, whether they keep the child or give it away.
And self-defense and CPR will be mandatory in PE, and kids will know before they graduate how to get in shape and stay there. And money management will be a required course. And I'll make an apprenticeship program for school credit for kids who want to go straight to the workforce, rather'n college. And everyone will have a nickname which I give to them.
:ed:Vote bitteroldman 2016!