Do you think you are hot?

[der Astronom]

No, I am not. I'm not out of shape, but I'm not pretty either.

But intelligence is.

 

[Kei]

I'd be 7 I'm not so cheerful in my life I hate every simple thing and I need a few pounds to have muscles

 

[Skunkman88]

1, or zero. I have the one of the lowest self-opinions you'll come across

 

[Zeen21]

1, or zero. I have the one of the lowest self-opinions you'll come across

Aww ..you should try getting some confidence, it really reflects on your personality and makes you a more attractive person.

 

[Howl]

He's never said another girl was beautiful? Not even you? A guy should tell his girlfriend all the time shes beautiful.

People should not judge others just by the way they look. It's as bad as racism really, because your only judging that person and treating them differently because of what they look like on the outside. Something they can't help!

Nope, I never said he didn't call me beautiful.
Sometimes I think that...in some strange way he says things to make me feel more put-on-a-pedestal. But it makes me a little uncomfortable sometimes; and I tell him "hey, that's not nice...", because
a) some of the people that he caps on really are pretty on the outside! X___x
b) it's downright mean to call someone ugly.


Surprisingly enough, even though he's a jerk, everyone likes him; including me, so meh.

 

[Rockman X]

I still don't think anyone should rate themselves so high, no matter how good they look, or think they look. Its just too vain.

Nothing wrong with a little vanity, imo. If you've got the stuff to flaunt, why the hell not flaunt? Besides, a little vanity can go a long way when it comes to helping out with self-esteem issues, I speak from experience.

b) it's downright mean to call someone ugly.

I call people ugly all the time. But then again, I am mean And since you somehow managed to skip them, I'd like to redirect you to mine and Mandi's posts. Just who are you trying to fool exactly, the new members? We'll call you out on this shit.

 

[Skunkman88]

Aww ..you should try getting some confidence, it really reflects on your personality and makes you a more attractive person.

ROFL that's probably why no-one's ever called me attractive but this probably isn't the forum to be discussing that kind of topic, most people here seem a bit touchy about it....

 

[Jazz_guy4545]

I've had quite a few people say I'm sexy, does that count?

 

[Fusilli]

I still don't think anyone should rate themselves so high, no matter how good they look, or think they look. Its just too vain.

Meh, I know what you mean as it is annoying when people are in love with themselves. Especially when they aren't anything special. >> I don't see anything wrong with people knowing that they look good when they do though, particularly if you put a lot of effort into your appearance - then you're TRYING to look good. Saying that you look repulsive would defeat the purpose of all your efforts. I generally think that I am quite plain-looking, but there is the odd day when my hair sits nicely and my skin isn't too bad etc, and I'll be able to admit that I look good, because I do. It does wonders for the self-esteem to be able to think like that every so often, but I agree with you that too much self-praise is just sickly. ><

 

[Zeen21]

Nothing wrong with a little vanity, imo. If you've got the stuff to flaunt, why the hell not flaunt? Besides, a little vanity can go a long way when it comes to helping out with self-esteem issues, I speak from experience.

Yep there is! Your confusing self confidence with vanity. There's a big difference! When your vain, your just too self obsessed and think your like the hottest person ever. Having confidence is great and helps with self-esteem issues, being vain is unattractive and annoying.

I call people ugly all the time. But then again, I am mean

And you like being mean? Just because you may not care if someone called you ugly, doesn't mean it may not really hurt someone else. So learn to be nice and grow up! Hmph!

Meh, I know what you mean as it is annoying when people are in love with themselves. Especially when they aren't anything special. >> I don't see anything wrong with people knowing that they look good when they do though, particularly if you put a lot of effort into your appearance - then you're TRYING to look good. Saying that you look repulsive would defeat the purpose of all your efforts. I generally think that I am quite plain-looking, but there is the odd day when my hair sits nicely and my skin isn't too bad etc, and I'll be able to admit that I look good, because I do. It does wonders for the self-esteem to be able to think like that every so often, but I agree with you that too much self-praise is just sickly. ><

Yeah, exactly! There's nothing wrong with knowing and thinking you look good, it's great. But there's a limit, lol.

 

[Rockman X]

Yep there is! Your confusing self confidence with vanity. There's a big difference! When your vain, your just too self obsessed and think your like the hottest person ever. Having confidence is great and helps with self-esteem issues, being vain is unattractive and annoying.

Ah but see, vanity promotes self-confidence. Take this scenario for example:

"Hey, I'm hawt, I can get up in front of these people in speech class and not worry about people looking at me, because even if I can't speak well I'm still eye candy."

See, that's me. It doesn't bother me that I can't speak well in front of groups anymore, because I know I look good so that makes up for it. Even if I sound stupid, I'm not going to look stupid, savvy?

And you like being mean? Just because you may not care if someone called you ugly, doesn't mean it may not really hurt someone else. So learn to be nice and grow up! Hmph!

Actually I do like it, it's fun being mean

 

[Zeen21]

Ah but see, vanity promotes self-confidence. Take this scenario for example:

"Hey, I'm hawt, I can get up in front of these people in speech class and not worry about people looking at me, because even if I can't speak well I'm still eye candy."

See, that's me. It doesn't bother me that I can't speak well in front of groups anymore, because I know I look good so that makes up for it. Even if I sound stupid, I'm not going to look stupid, savvy?



Actually I do like it, it's fun being mean

Jeez you have such a bad attitude! If I was in a class and someone had to make a speech it wouldn't make a difference how good they look, it wouldn't 'make up' for sounding stupid, LOL. Do you really think looks are so important that no one even notices what your saying?
(Unless maybe you had your boobs on show then most the guys wouldn't pay attention I doubt anyone would want to look at your manboobs though )

Vanity shouldn't promote self confidence! Saying instead "I look good, I shouldn't be self concious and have to worry about others staring at me, just concentrate" THAT's self confidence and not vain. Saying "I'm so hot it doesn't matter because everyone will be staring at my hotness" is just ridiculus and makes me want to slap some sense into you for being so annoying, get your head out of the clouds!

You sound like a school bully, "It's fun being mean!!!" I would think by 20 you'd have grown up. And I doubt your as 'hawt' as you think you are, where's your pic then?

 

[Jack's Smirking Revenge]

I'm gonna go and agree with VR here. Vanity doesn't necessarily promote self confidence, but is more like a by-product of it. If someone is confident enough with themselves, then they're going to think good about how they look. If it goes far enough, it clashes with egotism. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with being egotistical.

 

[Donald Trump]

Jeez you have such a bad attitude! If I was in a class and someone had to make a speech it wouldn't make a difference how good they look, it wouldn't 'make up' for sounding stupid, LOL. Do you really think looks are so important that no one even notices what your saying?
(Unless maybe you had your boobs on show then most the guys wouldn't pay attention I doubt anyone would want to look at your manboobs though )

Vanity shouldn't promote self confidence! Saying instead "I look good, I shouldn't be self concious and have to worry about others staring at me, just concentrate" THAT's self confidence and not vain. Saying "I'm so hot it doesn't matter because everyone will be staring at my hotness" is just ridiculus and makes me want to slap some sense into you for being so annoying, get your head out of the clouds!

You sound like a school bully, "It's fun being mean!!!" I would think by 20 you'd have grown up. And I doubt your as 'hawt' as you think you are, where's your pic then?

VR IZ TEH HAWTNESS. IT R NAUGHT LIE.

Of course looks effect how people view their speeches. JFK and Nixon for example. JFK, was good looking and spoke with confidence because he was good looking, Nixon, looked shifty and untrustworthy.

Vanity does promote self confidence. Vanity is loving how you look, which means you must be self confident, or a bit insane. Not that vanity is a good thing, but why would you expect modest people, Bei Bei for example, to not give herself a high score? SHE R HAWT, unless you want her to post lower so that less attractive people feel better about themselves? Yet that's just patronising them. I'm sure such people would feel a lot better knowing that you had been truthful, rather than lie.

 

[Zeen21]

Vanity is the extreme of TOO MUCH confidence, its practically arrogance.

Having a very low opinion of yourself is having no/hardly ANY confidence.

These are both unattractive, it's best to be in the middle.

Yeah looks effect how a person feels about themselves, if they look good then they're going to most likely have a lot of confidence and that represents well in how they act around people. But just because someone looks good doesn't change what they're actually SAYING. They could still make a fool of themselves. People aren't going to ignore that just because your good looking.

I said why I think people shouldn't rate themselves so high, saying how hot and sexy they think they are, it's just vain! And being vain isn't a good thing. And no I'm not saying they should rate themselves lower, how about just not being that way in the first place? Like I said, it doesn't matter how good you look or you think you look. It's stupid anyway.

 

[Blue Link]

I've seen sad cases of people trying to look beautiful, with make-up and stuff, and when they're self-esteem is low they'll go to extremes such as surgeory and what-not to heighten it. Then they're so full of implants that they're practically fake. So if having a high self-esteem and being "vain" would keep me from butchering my body then I gladly take up the title.

 

[Rockman X]

Jeez you have such a bad attitude! If I was in a class and someone had to make a speech it wouldn't make a difference how good they look, it wouldn't 'make up' for sounding stupid, LOL. Do you really think looks are so important that no one even notices what your saying?
(Unless maybe you had your boobs on show then most the guys wouldn't pay attention I doubt anyone would want to look at your manboobs though )

Well I know that if I was watching someone hot give a horrible speech, their looks would be able to distract me from their inarticulateness.

And I don't have moobs deary, not in the slightest

Vanity shouldn't promote self confidence!

Well it does, at least it did that in me. Sorry to offend you xD

Saying instead "I look good, I shouldn't be self concious and have to worry about others staring at me, just concentrate" THAT's self confidence and not vain. Saying "I'm so hot it doesn't matter because everyone will be staring at my hotness" is just ridiculus and makes me want to slap some sense into you for being so annoying, get your head out of the clouds!

But that's essentially the same thing...I R HAWT is really just the next step up. And it's not like I strut around wagging my ass at people, I'm not THAT vain. If you'd noticed, I only rated myself a 7/8 anyway, I coulda gone higher.

You sound like a school bully, "It's fun being mean!!!" I would think by 20 you'd have grown up. And I doubt your as 'hawt' as you think you are, where's your pic then?

I was a school bully, and why don't you have a gander in the member pic thread, I've a few pics in there.

VR IZ TEH HAWTNESS. IT R NAUGHT LIE.

He speaks the truth

Of course looks effect how people view their speeches. JFK and Nixon for example. JFK, was good looking and spoke with confidence because he was good looking, Nixon, looked shifty and untrustworthy.

Very good point. People are going to have a hard time looking at and taking seriously someone who's creepy, unkempt or unsightly in other ways.

Like, I happen to think that Pope Benedict looks a hell of alot like Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars, and the name Benedict itself makes me very wary of the guy. I don't take popes seriously in the first place, but a guy as creepy looking as Benedict I just plain don't trust. Pope John Paul II just looked like a nice old grandpa who'd gone senile.

why would you expect modest people, Bei Bei for example, to not give herself a high score? SHE R HAWT, unless you want her to post lower so that less attractive people feel better about themselves? Yet that's just patronising them. I'm sure such people would feel a lot better knowing that you had been truthful, rather than lie.

It can be patronizing...but the biggest way I see it used is if people downrate themselves just to get sympathetic replies of "NOOOO! DONT SAY UR FAT/UGLY, UR BOOTEEFUL!" To me, purposefully putting yourself down to get compliments is alot worse than knowing you're hot and straight up saying it.

Vanity is the extreme of TOO MUCH confidence, its practically arrogance.

That would be narcissism.

 

[Zeen21]

Well it does, at least it did that in me. Sorry to offend you xD

Nope, doesn't offend me I just think its sad. And like I said you become vain when you have too much self confidence and love yourself too much.

But that's essentially the same thing...I R HAWT is really just the next step up. And it's not like I strut around wagging my ass at people, I'm not THAT vain.

Exactly, its a step up in the wrong direction. Just like liking yourself and being confident, then going a step up and becoming arrogant. It's a bad thing. No one likes those kinds of people.

I was a school bully

No wonder! Bullies are pathetic horrible people who are most likely insecure with themselves and feel they have to be mean to others. Your probably trying to make up for that by putting on this front. Thinking your the best, hottest, etc. One of the worst kind's of people you can be IMO.

Saw one pic, nothing special especially for being as vain as you are.

Very good point. People are going to have a hard time looking at and taking seriously someone who's unkempt or unsightly in other ways.

Maybe in a way, people pay more attention to someone that looks good. But I doubt most people would ignore a person just because they looked unattractive unless they were looking for a date, they still pay attention to what they say.

It can be patronizing...but the biggest way I see it used is if people downrate themselves just to get sympathetic replies of "NOOOO! DONT SAY UR FAT/UGLY, UR BOOTEEFUL!" To me, purposefully putting yourself down to get compliments is alot worse than knowing your hot and straight up saying it.

That's annoying too. But fishing for compliments is something most of us do, it makes us feel good and adds to our self confidence. It's perfectly normal and not really a bad thing. Saying how hot and sexy you think you are and being vain is.

I've seen sad cases of people trying to look beautiful, with make-up and stuff, and when they're self-esteem is low they'll go to extremes such as surgeory and what-not to heighten it. Then they're so full of implants that they're practically fake. So if having a high self-esteem and being "vain" would keep me from butchering my body then I gladly take up the title.

O........k

Everyone tries to look beautiful!! What planet are you on? I think being/looking fake is horrible. Having stuff on your body that's fake like implants I don't agree with.

So your either someone who has really low self-esteem that goes around having tons of plastic surgery or your vain shallow and self obsessed? I'd rather take up neither thanks!

 

[Rockman X]

No wonder! Bullies are pathetic horrible people who are most likely insecure with themselves and feel they have to be mean to others. Your probably trying to make up for that by putting on this front. Thinking your the best, hottest, etc. One of the worst kind's of people you can be IMO.

Nah, I'm just a sadistic bastard and enjoy being mean for the fun of it.

Saw one pic, nothing special especially for being as vain as you are.

Well to each his own

That's annoying too. But fishing for compliments is something most of us do, it makes us feel good and adds to our self confidence. It's perfectly normal and not really a bad thing. Saying how hot and sexy you think you are and being vain is.

I'm hot.

So your either someone who has really low self-esteem that goes around having tons of plastic surgery or your vain shallow and self obsessed? I'd rather take up neither thanks!

So in that case....you'd pick being plain or ugly? You may not like it, but society is governed by looks. It's manifest in the lowest scales like high school cliques to getting job interviews and onward. No boss is going to hire someone who doesn't look clean, etc. And lots of places hire based on how hot someone is. I sure wouldn't wanna walk into a department store and see some ugly/fat chick strutting around in their clothes, they're going to pick someone hot to model off their product.

 

[Blue Link]

My point is that high self-esteem makes you happy with the way you are. YOU'RE saying that high self-esteem is bad. What's wrong with loving what God gave you? People with low self-esteem sometimes ruin their bodies with unneccasary procedures, no matter if they are attractive or not. They don't accept their flaws and they get a false sense of self-esteem gained by an unnatural source.

You say having high self-esteem is vain? Well I don't see what's vain about loving the only body you will ever have...