Religious Beliefs

Shadow13 said:
I'm just a kid bopping around, trying to figure out what's what, really. I can't really call myself anything, as my terminology in this subject lacks greatly. I ask quite a lot of questions (as I'm trying to figure things out to the best of my ability) and my beliefs are scattered through a lot of different categories. I lean towards there being no God however, and reincarnation existing.
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I was like that, too, for a while. I just called myself a "spiratualist". Personally, I wasn't comfortable subscribing to any one set of beliefs when I didn't necessarily agree with all of the rules or laws or ideas set out by a religion.

Then I found Satanism. Now don't be too quick to judge. I do not believe in "bringing anyone over to the dark side". I think that if you are a Satanist, you were born a Satanist. Too many people find it too easy to assume that because my religion is "of Satan" that I must worship the devil, kill babies, and the like. Firstly, Satanism is a term that was actually coined by the Christians. The religion itself is loosely based on many Pagan beliefs and because we're not with God, we must therefore be with Satan. They gave us this name.

As a Satanist, we believe passionately in ourselfs. We are our own gods. We have the strength and we are the source of power. We are encouraged to embrace our wants and needs. We do not shun a feeling we have just because we are told by others that it is wrong. If your feeling does not cause harm to those who can't fight for themselves, then it is right. If someone is strong enough to hurt you, they should be strong enough to endure the hurt you will cause them, physically, mentally, spiritually, or otherwise. "If man should smite thee on the cheek, smash him on the other." This is a very strong statement found in the Satanic Bible, and Satanism urges you to embrace your hate and your hunger for revenge and all of the other desires you feel because they are natural. They are what makes us human.

Satanists do not condone ritualistic murders or sacrifices. We do not wish harm on children or animals. We are here to care for those who cannot care for themselves. (Unless of course they abuse that priveledge, in which case you deprive them of it, which is a revenge all on its own.)

Satanists do not believe in white or black magic. Magic is simply magic. The Wiccan definition of white magic is magic that is done for others as a selfless act. We believe that there is no such thing. We as humans only do things to benefit ourselfs in the act of self preservation or the pursuit of happiness. Now I know some may say, "But JC, if my friend has cancer and I do healing spells on them is this not selfless?" Yes, it is. You are motivated to act based on your own desires. If you do the spell in secret, you are afraid of losing your friend and do not want to be without them, therefore trying to heal them of their disease. If you do the spell with their knowledge, you are simply trying to look good. That sounds unreasonable, but it is true. The main problem with people is that they are pushed to ignore how they really feel in order to appear "good". People are so afraid of what others will think of them that they compromise their personality by deceiving themselves into thinking they're something they're not. And this only works because the majority of people do this.

Anyways, I feel I've rambled on enough. If you have any questions, by all means, ask them. ^_^
 
No offense, but every time I see that "Jesus Christ" posted in a thread, it's hard not to laugh. And to say your a satanist... well, you should seriously consider a name change. How about "Anton LaVey"?
 
I'm a devoted, believing Christian. I believe in the Godhead, God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, that they died for our sins, and the main bits in the Bible. (Though I don't believe everything in it.) I think the only purpose of this life is to live a good, Christian life, and basically stick to the Ten Commandments. At the end, we'll all be judged by God, and then we'll be put in our final resting place: Heaven, or Hell.

Seems pretty simple to me, and I believe in it with all my heart. To my believe that God is all caring and nice, I can't say, but I believe he created us, and humans aren't the highest link in the chain.
 
Adamant said:
No offense, but every time I see that "Jesus Christ" posted in a thread, it's hard not to laugh. And to say your a satanist... well, you should seriously consider a name change. How about "Anton LaVey"?
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I totally agree, lol.

And Satanism? When I was in my teenage years and "searching for myself" I looked into that. Hell, I even bought the Satanic Bible and the Satanic Witch. But just a 'lil too strange for me. Basically Satanism = "me, me, me I put myself before anything else". But if it works for you, awesome I guess!
 
In Norse Paganism the end of the world is signified by 3 events.

The death of Baldr (A Norse God)
The Binding of Loki (Another norse god who arrange the murder of baldr)
The Arrival of Fimbulwinter (3 consecutive winters)

The last one intrigues me, mainly because of the fear of "Nuclear Winter" which is a neverending winter. When you look into religions and find somethings relating to the modern day it's a kind of thing that makes you go "Hmmm"
 
Leki said:
I'm a devoted, believing Christian. I believe in the Godhead, God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, that they died for our sins, and the main bits in the Bible. (Though I don't believe everything in it.) I think the only purpose of this life is to live a good, Christian life, and basically stick to the Ten Commandments. At the end, we'll all be judged by God, and then we'll be put in our final resting place: Heaven, or Hell.

Seems pretty simple to me, and I believe in it with all my heart. To my believe that God is all caring and nice, I can't say, but I believe he created us, and humans aren't the highest link in the chain.
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Amen.
 
Adamant said:
No offense, but every time I see that "Jesus Christ" posted in a thread, it's hard not to laugh. And to say your a satanist... well, you should seriously consider a name change. How about "Anton LaVey"?
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Heh. Well, I really chose the name Jesus Christ several years ago in my shit disturber phase. And now it just kind of sticks. I like it because it shows who is ready to judge you the first second they see you (or your username). Besides, it makes for good conversation... I've been immediately banned from forums before just because of it. And I never posted anything offensive in the first place. (Though I know some people find the name offensive.) People are so uptight sometimes. Some of my good (online) friends are Jehova's Witness, Mormon, and practicing Christians and only know me by this name.
 
Banning you for that? Oh for goodness sake, doesn't that say something about the kind of society we live in when people are treated like that? I mean sure, it can seem like you're extracting the urine, but at the end of the day, you're still a person and deserve to be treated with respect, don't you? There's just no need to look down upon a person like that. It really grates on my nerves when that happens.

Did that forum manage to justify banning you?
 
Wow, that is ridiculous just banning you because of your name. That does say something about people today, they are so quick to pass judgement at others over such trivial things sometimes...It's very unfair.
 
I actually would not be half surprised if that username was banned on a forum. I mean, wouldn't it seem a bit odd if I came to a catholic forum with the username "God"? Impersonating a religious deity, which includes Jesus... well, it tends to upset people.

Heck, that's an awesome username. I'm using it. :) :) :)
 
As I have sufferd plenty of ridicule at the hands of those who do not understand why I say Sephiroth is my god, I write this to explain.
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Sephiroth.
First off, yes I am something of a fanboy I appreciate Sephiroth's apperance and I respect his fighting style. In both the original game and in Advent Children. However I do no drool over every aspect of him, I know and acknowledge that Sephiroth has his weaknesses and faults. For example his insanity after the Nibleheim incident. Though I believe that he mellowed and regained his sanity asfter spending time in the lifestream and realising Jenova's true nature and accepting his own origins.

Religion.

Defenitions are from the Collins English Dictionary and Thesaurus.

1, Belief in, worship of, or obediance to a supernatural power or powers considerd to be divine or to have control of human destiney.

2, Any formal or institutionalized expression of such belief.

3, The attitude and feeling of one who belives in a transcendent controlling power or powers.

4, The way of life entered upon by monks and nuns.

5, Something of overwhelming importance to a person.

Of those defenitions 1,2,3 and 5 all have some relevance to me. Number is by the sound of it would be the oe to attract ridicule and reccomendations for a psychiatrist. However Sephiroth does not need to will something to happen or even have any form of prescence in this world to effect someones destiney. The fact I am here explaining all of this is proof of that fact. Though there are some who would consider the games and movie to be Sephiroth having a prescence in this world.
Sephyism on ACF is a club ordered, formal and an institutio aswell. As such it does fit in with the second defenitio, however that is where the importnce to me ends.
The third is simply my own attitude towards Sephiroth and Sephyism. Anyone who knows me knows my feelings and attitudes.
The fith is also rather obvious I think. Sephiroth is extremly important to me, his actions are to me those of a man who understands what Humanity is actually worth. Ironic considering his confusion about his own existance after the Nibleheim incdent.

Why Sephiroth is my God.

There is n simple answer to this, so Ill proberley be confusing. Questions are welcome if you seek clarificatin.
Religion is a way of life, to worship Sephirothis to use his life as an example of how I should live my own. Obviously however I am not Sephiroth, we are two different people so naturally I would not act as he would in every situation. For example if I found out I was not human I would not burn a village to the ground killing many of the residents. Infact I would go and celebrate, since my hatred of humanity is similer to hoe Sephiroth feels after the Nibleheim incident.
Sephiroth is my god because I respect him for who he is, because his views are similer to my own and because I believe he would make a good ruler.

I believe in Sephiroth.

Whether he exists or not is not a valid question. He does exist, if he did not how could we be talking about him? If you are religious, if you believe in a god. Then ask yourself what proof do you have? Ask how you feel and then you will understand what proof I have and how I feel.
 
^ Which is why I respect you so much, Tethar.

Here's a simple comparison to validate Sephyism as a real religion:

If Sephiroth is JUST pixels in a game, then what is God? God is just text in a book.
 
Riku said:
Did that forum manage to justify banning you?
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Apparently, I was upsetting some of the other members with my mere presence.

Say what you will, though. It's a real ego booster to know that you just being there can cause several people to band together to form a mob against you. You must be really powerful if they're so scared of you that they need to go to those extreme measures just to keep you out.

Ooh, and the hate mail I get is the best. ^_~
 
Wow, thank you for that post Tethar, I really enjoyed reading that.

You made some really good points, made me think!
 
I just felt like posting it. Its interesting that some of the points I make actually allow people to have Sephiroth as their go while fully acnowledging he is nothing more then a games character.
 
Garnet said:
And Satanism? When I was in my teenage years and "searching for myself" I looked into that. Hell, I even bought the Satanic Bible and the Satanic Witch. But just a 'lil too strange for me. Basically Satanism = "me, me, me I put myself before anything else". But if it works for you, awesome I guess!
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Well, it depends on the person who is practicing Satanism, right? I feel pretty great about myself when I help out a friend who needs it or am there for my family when they're going through tough times... It's all about you and what makes you feel happy. If you don't have anyone else in the world you care about, then it's easier to say it's "me, me, me". True, I am the most important person in my world, but others are important to me too, and their happiness effects me. Ipsofacto, I make them happy, I, in turn, am happy.
 
I have read about satanism and how it is rather geared towards the self. I heared it is more about accepting all aspects of yourself including your desires no matter what they are and all of your worsed emotions. So it is about ackowledging and accepting all aspects of yourself.
I find that very interesting as being slightly solipstic I tend to be rather dismisive of other people.

It might have made a good religion for me had I not found Sephyism.

EDIT: About Solipsism:

IEP said:
Solipsism is sometimes expressed as the view that "I am the only mind which exists," or "My mental states are the only mental states." However, the sole survivor of a nuclear holocaust might truly come to believe in either of these propositions without thereby being a solipsist. Solipsism is therefore more properly regarded as the doctrine that, in principle, "existence" means for me my existence and that of my mental states. Existence is everything that I experience -- physical objects, other people, events and processes -- anything that would commonly be regarded as a constituent of the space and time in which I coexist with others and is necessarily construed by me as part of the content of my consciousness. For the solipsist, it is not merely the case that he believes that his thoughts, experiences, and emotions are, as a matter of contingent fact, the only thoughts, experiences, and emotions. Rather, the solipsist can attach no meaning to the supposition that there could be thoughts, experiences, and emotions other than his own. In short, the true solipsist understands the word "pain," for example, to mean "my pain." He cannot accordingly conceive how this word is to be applied in any sense other than this exclusively egocentric one.
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