Which Gender Suffers Worse?

Which Gender Suffers More?

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I don't think either gender are in a position to say that they go through more mentally, simply because there's no person on earth who's (naturally) gone through living as both a man and a woman.

Now that's not to say that evidence doesn't point to one side or the other, but from a psychological standpoint our brains generally function differently. How can one person possibly have lived both lives? They can't. So how could they possible make an educated decision?


That being said, I don't presume to know the answer to the question. It's my personal belief that both genders have their pros and cons, and that comparing them is nothing less than foolhardy.
 
Is this a joke?
Women hands down, and I'm not just saying that because I am one. I know it's a little.. okay, I know it's very stupid to not explain myself, but I really don't feel there's a need.
In all honesty, I cannot believe some people voted men. I haven't read any replies (yet) so I assume that it's because of the reputation they've given themselves.
Let me repeat that.
The reputation they've given themselves.
Thank you for reading.
 
I believe that both genders are equally balanced. Both have their share of pros and cons, and naturally some are better and worse than others. But on a whole, I think all humans are created equal. It all becomes dependent on what a person prefers to do and how they prefer to think about things to decipher if it's better for THEM to think it's better to be a man or woman. It is an interesting question, and one that will probably prompt most to say a woman suffers more. But it doesn't necessarily mean a man has an easy, free-ride through life. As I've said, both have their share of pros and cons, I don't see one gender suffering more than another. Otherwise all humans will strive to be a man or woman if the case were that obvious.
 
I would say Women since we actually had to fight just to have a right to vote (lol that rhymed a bit xD) anyways, not to mention childbirth and pregnancy, and still, not until a bit ago we did not have a right to even run for the election (In America at least)

But i digress, for Men went through more physical pain, as in war and manual labor.

So i say both are equal
 
Men have it worse now, but it used to be women.

Because of how politically correct people have to be now adays, if you are a straight white male, you will always suffer in looking for jobs. Because Companies are not allowed to look as if they are being impartial, racist, homophobic or sexist.

A few years ago I attempted to join the police, and on the Application there was a box to tick on wether you was "Straight", "Homosexual" or "Bisexual". Well what the Hell would that have to do with anything? Of course it's all part of meeting a quota.

I definitely think the average straight, white male will have it far worse in the job market then anyone else at the moment.
 
Woman appear to suffer more on the outside, but i think men have something of a silent suffering on the inside.

I think its impossible to tell, being that nobody can ever be (truley) both.
 
I don't think there is any question that women go through more physical pains in life. As for emotional and mental pains, well, that's different from person to person now, isn't it? Personally, I don't think most guys nowadays suffer much at all. Most guys I know besides myself are perverted partygoers that sleep around and only live in the moment, with few exceptions.

However, if a man is shy, at least in western countries, they have to deal with more emotional pain. Well, straight men, anyway. This is because in western society men are always typecast as the strong, well-spoken leader who starts relationships. Women benefit a lot from this, as they can do whatever and just wait for someone to sweep them off their feet. As for lesbians and gay men, there's the ones that take up opposite gender roles in their societies, so they also have no worries.

A shy straight man? Well, he's pretty much screwed. He suffers long, watching as all his efforts go to waste, and whenever he does open his mouth, it's either awkward or nobody cares to hear.

Personally, I put a lot more stake in emotional and mental pain, but there are very few shy guys, so it's impossible to judge just by my add-in to the conversation. I would say that most women suffer more, excepting the shy male individuals from the majority of the male equation.
 
Women.
I'm not saying this because I am a woman either.

First off, women have tits. Lets face it, that right there is a struggle. Either their too small for the boys to fancy or their too big and they smack you in the face as you jog. Both ways are annoying.

Pregnancy & Child Birth
It's painful. You carry an extra 20-30lbs for months and then you go through hours of horrible pain. Okay, so we get the joy of giving life... It's for a painful price.

We don't get paid as much
It has been proven that women make 15 cents less then men in the same job position. What I mean is if I'm sitting at a desk doing the same job as the man across me AND we got hired on the same day, he's making more money that I am.

Beauty & Reputation
Women are practically forced to feel as though they must look a certain way. Many women don't exit their homes until they're made-up and primped. I don't know too many men that have an almost necessary 15 minutes of "getting ready" time.

Sex
IT HURTS. Not just the first time either boys. The first time is terribly painful but each time still has its couple seconds of "agh, just be done with this". Don't get me wrong, I enjoy sexual intercourse, but honestly, it isn't all fun for us each time. Men on the other hand... Can't say I've ever heard one complain about how painful his "first time" was. While we're on this topic... The more men a woman has sex with, the more of a slut she is. The more women a man has sex with, the more "badass" he is. Fair? I think not.

Menstruation
Some women don't have the absolute worse menstrual cycles... Others are bed-ridden for a few days. I don't think I need to go too indepth on this one but let me put it this way: If a women bleeds from there, it's normal. If a man bleeds, there's a problem. Hmm..

Men have their issues too, I know. But lets face it! Women simply have it harder. We endure.
 
Synlea said:
Women.
I'm not saying this because I am a woman either.

First off, women have tits. Lets face it, that right there is a struggle. Either their too small for the boys to fancy or their too big and they smack you in the face as you jog. Both ways are annoying.

Sports bra? Go cycling instead? Women can always get breast enhancements if they feel they want to change a part of them physically.

Pregnancy & Child Birth
It's painful. You carry an extra 20-30lbs for months and then you go through hours of horrible pain. Okay, so we get the joy of giving life... It's for a painful price.

Can't argue there.

We don't get paid as much
It has been proven that women make 15 cents less then men in the same job position. What I mean is if I'm sitting at a desk doing the same job as the man across me AND we got hired on the same day, he's making more money that I am.

Women have far more opportunities in jobs now. There tends to be a far wider range of jobs for women than there is for men. And there will still be sexual bias when selecting a woman over a man at a job interview. And if the woman isn't chosen because she is hot, chances are she can be chosen as to not look sexism. Im not saying that there arent women that dont deservedly get the job over their male counterparts because they are, but todays society is predominately run by the PC crowd.

Beauty & Reputation
Women are practically forced to feel as though they must look a certain way. Many women don't exit their homes until they're made-up and primped. I don't know too many men that have an almost necessary 15 minutes of "getting ready" time.

It's a womans choice. If she's been coerced or brainwashed, then it's only been by magazines writen by other women. I was always under the impression that women liked to look pretty for themselves before anyone else. And pride exists in us all. Most men will make sure they are clean shaven, well groomed before they go out. Contrary to popular belief, we are not all neanderthal slobs.

Sex
IT HURTS. Not just the first time either boys. The first time is terribly painful but each time still has its couple seconds of "agh, just be done with this". Don't get me wrong, I enjoy sexual intercourse, but honestly, it isn't all fun for us each time. Men on the other hand... Can't say I've ever heard one complain about how painful his "first time" was. While we're on this topic... The more men a woman has sex with, the more of a slut she is. The more women a man has sex with, the more "badass" he is. Fair? I think not.

Yeah, this sucks about the whole "men sleeping around are considered stalions while women that do are whores", but that's life. And it's not just men that big each other up about that...women seem drawn to those sort of guys as well!

Menstruation
Some women don't have the absolute worse menstrual cycles... Others are bed-ridden for a few days. I don't think I need to go too indepth on this one but let me put it this way: If a women bleeds from there, it's normal. If a man bleeds, there's a problem. Hmm..

Hey, you never had to put up with Man Flu. It's enough to fell the strongest of men for days.

Men have their issues too, I know. But lets face it! Women simply have it harder. We endure.
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I totally agree with everything you said Flagg. A lot of the things I mentioned can be changed but they are still issues.

- Women shouldn't have to feel as though they need a breast enhancement to be desirable. As for the ta-ta's and sports bra's, those are uncomfortable... it's like putting duct-tape around your stomach or something.. there's always something pulling or twisting or getting stuck.

- The job thing is changing but a friend and I actually had a very large argument about this recently. The 15 cents is an average number but it really does happen. I was disappointed, to say the least, when I discovered that men STILL are offered more than women. Granted, you don't see too many male secretaries out there and the like, so there are still those "man jobs" and "women jobs" floating around.

- My Husband tells me he prefers me without make-up. It feels great to be told that. Past boyfriends of mine used to not allow me to leave until I at least had mascara on. It all depends on the situation. Obviously, my previous boyfriends didn't love me for me. It's a steriotypical society out there. It's no fair and it's not always true, but it's there. Natural beauty just doesn't always cut it for some people. It all depends on the personality of the person your talking to. Personally, I'll go just about anywhere in a jammies and no make-up, but hey... that's me.

Like I said though, totally agree with ya. Just thought I'd add a bit in there. Men certainly have their troubles and I'll be the last to deny that. For instance, I can go an entire Winter without shaving my legs (my Husband may not like it though)... Men on the other hand don't exactly get an "off season" for shaving their face. There are tons of other things. I just think that women have a few more disadvantages then our counterparts is all. ^_^
 
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- Women shouldn't have to feel as though they need a breast enhancement to be desirable. As for the ta-ta's and sports bra's, those are uncomfortable... it's like putting duct-tape around your stomach or something.. there's always something pulling or twisting or getting stuck.
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I gotta agree here. Most guys are really demanding when it comes to the ideal woman, and it puts a lot of pressure on them, considering guys always seem to like Ginormo-tits. Personally, If I had any preference, it'd range from average to small, but I care alot more about personality than anything.



- My Husband tells me he prefers me without make-up. It feels great to be told that. Past boyfriends of mine used to not allow me to leave until I at least had mascara on. It all depends on the situation. Obviously, my previous boyfriends didn't love me for me. It's a steriotypical society out there. It's no fair and it's not always true, but it's there. Natural beauty just doesn't always cut it for some people. It all depends on the personality of the person your talking to. Personally, I'll go just about anywhere in a jammies and no make-up, but hey... that's me.
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First off... WTF? The fact that the guys were trying make decisions for you would've been a huge warning sign. But it's not just guys that seem to judge mostly on appearance. Women can be quite harsh in this as well, especially considering the 'flavor' of the past couple of years has been skinny metrosexual guys that could easily pass as women if you gave them a dress. I'm more of a rough type, so, sucks to be me. xD
 
I'm going to tear my eyeballs out if I see one more post about how women have to endure 9 months of pregnancy and trying to squeeze out a watermelon.

NO YOU DON'T! IT'S OPTIONAL. You can adopt or just forget about children altogether. Therefore it is IRRELEVANT!!

There are things I find men have a harder time with than women, like getting into a relationship in the first place; most often it's the guys that have to initiate contact with the women, not the other way around, given how the courtship system works. And they got to show confidence, good looks, proper body language, and everything when they do it. Personally, I think it would be easier to just look pretty and wait for somebody to notice and ask me out. But I consider that irrelevant, too, because one could simply choose not to get into any relationships at all.
 
Suffering is too broad of a term. When wars break loose, which gender is sent to war? Of course women have suffered social status in the last thousand years or so because of the nature of a patriarchal system, but then I could go off and say that they suffered because deep inside men is true suffering in some psychological complex or whatever. I won't pretend to be a psychologist with a four year degree, otherwise I likely wouldn't be on a Final Fantasy based website, but fancy terms or not, it could still be argued that men have suffered more, and they've expressed that by making women suffer.

Lately, as in the past fifty years or so, it seems like more and more women I've encountered or analyzed are more interested in controlling a person by way of a relationship or by sex than they are interested in the person. I've been suckered into that scenario a couple of times. But just as many men do the same, so in that regard, who can say which gender suffers more?

In contemporary times, men and women both share such equivalent social status that it is nearly impossible to even ask this. With few exceptions, control and suffering are not exclusive to either gender. That power will fluctuate some if the mass media allows it to. Watch TV sometime and tell me when women are made to look like the idiot and man is portrayed as the more intelligent one.

The broad answer to this broad question can be found by paying attention to the media and its influence on society.

Such a broad topic.
 
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For the most part, men and women are able to suffer an equal amount.

Men and women can both suffer from social anxiety.
Men and women both need to find money to buy a house and eat.
Men and women can both be oppressed by society.
Men and women can both find themselves in a job that's undervalued.
Men and women are rarely given the respect they deserve.
Men and women are both expected to be attractive.
Men and women can both suffer from emotional trauma.
Men and women are both victims of crime.
Men and women are both viewed badly for hurting others.
Men and women can both feel severe physical pain.
Men and women can both be given a hard time for making a mistake, even though mistakes are human.
Men and women are both judged on their views.
Men and women can both receive sexist remarks.
Men and women can both find topics difficult at school or in work.

However, the fact women are the child-bearers does move them just a little bit further up the scale.

I know that women don't HAVE to have kids, but it's really not that simple. I quite like the idea of having a child of my own one day, when I'm able to provide for it, but the idea of going through pregnancy terrifies me. I worked so hard to get to a healthy weight; I don't want to be fat. It's not a vanity thing. It's about confidence and basic happiness. I don't need to look drop dead gorgeous. I don't WANT to look drop dead gorgeous. But I don't want to be unattractive, and having extra weight doesn't suit me. If I gained weight during pregnancy, I could quite easily slip into depression. =/ Then there's giving birth...I don't like the idea of squeezing out something hard and oddly shaped...or being ripped down there.

I will also add that women are discriminated against because of this ability to give bith. :/

  1. Women who have kids or are going to have kids are less likely to get a high paying job because they are viewed as less reliable. Although it's true that they'll need to take time off work, I think this is an example of economics being prioritised over people. Women should not be paid less or given fewer opportunities...
  2. Women who don't have kids and don't want kids are viewed as heartless and controlling, profession driven machines. People will often think, 'How can she not want a kid? What's wrong with her? Is she heartless? I bet she's a selfish hard-ass.'
I know that not everyone thinks like this, but enough people do for it to affect women. :wacky:
 
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