Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

I kinda like the idea that at the beginning, and for most of the game, Seifer is strongest, but by the end, Squall is stronger. I'm not sure that this is entirely true, but if FFVIII was a novel (ie, you saw nothing in the way of stats or mechanics) then you would see this change.
 
Seifer is definetly stronger because squall was sent to the infirmery after a little slash above his nose. What a wuss
 
Seifer is definetly stronger because squall was sent to the infirmery after a little slash above his nose. What a wuss
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What da...?!!!
You are talking about the first minutes in the game, I mean come on did you beat the game?

and it's not his job to become stronger it's your job to make him that.

In the end....You don't know what the fuck you are talking about!

P.S:This is not flaming this is my opinion and I hope that I didn't hurt any1 with my words...And yea I know that sounds gay!!!

Seifer is stronger, I never liked Squall the whole game, So yeah Seifer gets my vote.
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No one asked ya to love him, but you have to play with that character coz it's the man one in the game, and if you don't like dat, you can throw the game or keep playin, that's your choice ;)

BTW the wink smilie sux!!

In the end...SQUALL RULES
 
in my game id say Seifer sadly because i could never find the right items to upgrade my gunblade hah
 
Squall vs Seifer

I think Seifer is stronger at first, but after Squall obtains the LionHeart and that Ultimate Limit Break Lionheart he's invincible
 
Considering what I've seen, I think Squall is much stronger than Seifer, But Seifer had much better personality, I've always thought that Squall was a cry baby
 
Im a big fan of Squall, i believe that Squall is stronger than Seifer at the start of the game.
But both have a different style of fighting, Seifer is more of a "run in with guns blazing" type of fighter, whereas i think Squall is more of a tactical fighter.
 
seifer is reckless in battle. he is also greedy and selfish. however his swordmanship is nice. however when squall and seifer are forced to party up you can check the stats and squall is more powerful
 
Marques said:
Im a big fan of Squall, i believe that Squall is stronger than Seifer at the start of the game.
But both have a different style of fighting, Seifer is more of a "run in with guns blazing" type of fighter, whereas i think Squall is more of a tactical fighter.
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my thoughts excatly, Seifer was just at higher levels during the game,so you can also say at the same given time Seifer has more experience so was "stonger" that way.
 
i think that seifer was stronger because yes it did take all your team to beat him as the sorcessess knight but i dont think it relli gave the chance for one-on-one a lot of the time, only the once i can remember i think. yeah so i think that seifer could easily kick squalls ass even though squall is amazing at the end of the game
 
Seifer of course, They all ganged up on Seifer to defeat him, also Seifer cut Odin into 2 half instead of the opposite, so I believe Seifer is stronger.
 
Mmmehhh...I'm still a bit torn on the issue of Squall vs. Seifer. Now, though, I'm starting to lean towards Seifer, if only a little. On one hand, the guy defeats a Summon Spirit. There haven't been many Final Fantasy characters who've been able to do that single-handedly (as in, without the support of a party). Storyline-wise, I don't know how strong Odin was supposed to be. I'd imagine he was below Bahamut and the like, but was easily one of the Upper-Tier GF's, so for Seifer to slice him in half is certainly an incredible feat. Still, even with that being said, there are some things that just don't add up.

Throughout the entire game, Seifer and Squall are portrayed as and considered by the majority of the cast to be either equals or extremely close. This is evident in both of their battles on Disc 1. The first ends in a draw with Seifer injuring Squall and Squall returning the favor, while the second ends with a victory for Squall, though this, as mentioned WAY back in the thread, could be attributed to Seifer being a bit out of shape due to not training. However, if Seifer really did have the kind of superhuman strength, speed, and reflexes he displayed when he sliced Odin in half, it shouldn't really matter whether or not he'd been training. With that kind of raw power at his displosal, he would've torn Squall to shreds without even breaking a sweat. So...how did it happen? How did Seifer get so incredibly strong in such a short amount of time?

I guess this could be explained by the fact that Seifer is a Sorceress's Knight. He might've been powered up by Ultimecia or something like that. That's really the only explanation I can think of for Seifer's jump from "Incredibly Strong Human" to "Outright Superhuman". I know this is Final Fantasy and all, but otherwise, it doesn't really make sense even by fantasy standards. Of course, Squall is now Rinoa's knight as-of the game's conclusion, so, if this really is true, it can be assumed that Squall, too, will achieve that kind of power.
 
I think Seifer's more stronger then Squall after all it took your whole party/team just to beat his sorceress knight form.Plus imo Seifer has always been stronger then Squall since the first battle with him.Even though I hate to admit it. :(
 
I wouldn't say that's neccessarily true. When Squall and Seifer battle in the opening FMV, the two seem pretty evenly matched. It's true that Seifer gives Squall a scar across his forehead, but what people seem to froget is that Squall returns the favor and gives Seifer an identical scar mere moments later. Then, in their second battle, Squall overpowers Seifer with what appears to be very little effort on his part, especially considering he's still prepared to fight Edea immediately afterwards. Now, it is true that Seifer hasn't been brushing up on his skill with the Gunblade lately, but really, how much time passed since their last encounter? I don't think it was that significant, all things considered. I'd say that, as of the end of Disc 1, Squall is the superior fighter between the two.

When it comes to the fight on Disc 2...I don't think that can really be used as evidence, either. The party is not fatigued at all after their fights battle against Seifer. What's more, Edea seems to magically revive him so that he can fight the party a second time, and they still beat him. As if that weren't enough, the party beats him and still has enough stamina left to beat the ever-loving tar out of Edea. So yeah, while the entire party does beat Seifer, I don't really think that the entire party was needed to beat him. They seem to overpower him quite easily, and they do it twice before proceeding to beat down a powerful sorceress, no less. I think that, even at the end of Disc 2, Squall is superior to Seifer.

Disc 3 is where things start to get a bit confusing. Seifer seems to increase in power exponentially from his last encounter to the point where he's capable of slicing a Summon Spirit in half effortlessly. I don't really know how he did it, but the fact remains, he did. It's at this point where I think he's probably superior to Squall, though the party still doesn't seem very fatigued after beating him. They do, after all, go on to defeat an (albeit groggy) Adel. Even so, I'd say that it's at this point where Seifer is superior to Squall, though I still don't know how he did it. I suppose, if he were empowered by Ultimecia, that would explain his sudden increase in strength. However, if that really is the case, then Squall has probably achieved a similar level of power by now, considering he's Rinoa's knight.
 
i believe its squall. y'know we must remeber something in this cases. DONOTEVER forget that when someone leaves your party and youll have to fight against him, a powerful ancient magic makes him 10 times stronger. you may not believe me, so believe in... FORGET ABOUT IT
 
LeonhartTidus said:
i believe its squall. y'know we must remeber something in this cases. DONOTEVER forget that when someone leaves your party and youll have to fight against him, a powerful ancient magic makes him 10 times stronger. you may not believe me, so believe in... FORGET ABOUT IT
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Squall was always the strongest out of them two to me.Cause he always die first when i play with him.
 
I think Squalls swordsmanship is better but I believe Seifer is the best with the magic...and you can see that in the beginning of the game.
 
I've always thought the two were equals, assuming Seifer could reach his full potential (which I don't think he did).

Squall on the other hand grew throughout the game, so I'd say by the time he reached Ultimecia, he was there or close to it.
 
Well... I'd like to say Seifer. Seifer should HAVE been the stronger one, but in the end, I think downplaying Seifer's role in FFVIII was one of the major mistakes SquareSoft made with that game.

Seifer took down Squall in the intro. Not only that, since he injured Squall, and there was no one else there, after receiving that Slash from Squall, he obviously carried Squall to the infirmary too.

Then... beyond the first battle you have with Seifer, nearly every time you face him, it's a 3 against 1 thing.

Should Seifer have been the stronger one? Yes, it'd make a lot of sense and fit into the story a lot more nicely, but SADLY... he wasn't, as the game proved by constantly let Squall and company take him down, by limiting his role to Ultimecca's lackey and by making all the battles with him sooo darn easy. XD
 
Why do you asume Squall must have been carried to the infirmary. As far as I could see he was perfectly able to walk by himself.
And Seifer only took down Squall because he was using a move not allowed in training. (pretty weak if you ask me) It had caught him off guard. Although I admit, he shouldn't have let people surprise him like that. SeeD's should be able to handle any situation.
As far as who's best. You have to battle Seifer in a few situations and in every one you have to win in order to continue with the game. But to be fair, it's usually three against one (although you could probably finish it with just Squall). I'm gonna go and call it a tie for now until I can think of some better arguments.
 
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