Why do people want manly men in final fantasy?

Snow barely had anything, you couldn'y even see it. But by XIII-2 he looked ridiculous. Sahz looked fine, but not HOT. Jecht..idk...i think he loooks ok but just not my type.

Facial Hair sometimes gets in their way of their appearance. And makes them look older, and the general public like younger characters. personally, i dont see the big deal off of big muscular characters. they look like jerks.

How does anyone like a character such as Kratos from God of War? He constantly screams and likes the Hulk 24/7.

I like no facial hair often just as much as I like facial hair :) it depends on the guys face. I can understand why some people might not like it, but disgusting seemed a bit extreme. All men grow facial hair, if you're dating a guy it's unlikely you'll never see him stubble in which case it might be a bit awkward to feel disgusted by it...

To be honest...there really wasn't much eye candy in XIII, I thought Snow and Sazh were pretty good looking, and Hope was really cute but there was nobody who was really gorgeous. I like manly men as much as I like non-manly men, it kind of depends. For example, I think Jecht is really fine, but so it Tidus. I did a search for Kratos...ugh. Not my type of guy at all. Still, muscles do not make a man, I think Sepheroth was a very manly character, even his face looked manly. Muscles make a buff man, not nessesarily a manly man imo.
 
I like no facial hair often just as much as I like facial hair :) it depends on the guys face. I can understand why some people might not like it, but disgusting seemed a bit extreme. All men grow facial hair, if you're dating a guy it's unlikely you'll never see him stubble in which case it might be a bit awkward to feel disgusted by it...

To be honest...there really wasn't much eye candy in XIII, I thought Snow and Sazh were pretty good looking, and Hope was really cute but there was nobody who was really gorgeous. I like manly men as much as I like non-manly men, it kind of depends. For example, I think Jecht is really fine, but so it Tidus. I did a search for Kratos...ugh. Not my type of guy at all. Still, muscles do not make a man, I think Sepheroth was a very manly character, even his face looked manly. Muscles make a buff man, not nessesarily a manly man imo.

Tidus is actually one of the few male characters that i hate but still enjoy. His design looks like an adult in little clothes, i'm actually glad they redesigned him in Dissidia.

Had to look up who this guy was... I think he's pretty attractive/sexy in a "I'm going to make love with you and there is no way you can stop me" type of way... :hmmm:
ugh...its more of the type of character he is, rather than actually physicial appearance.

as he's doing you, he would probably scream out "this is sparta!!" and crap like that. his personality is unatractive and it doesn't go with his look. he looks cool, but he's like a dumb brute.


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ugh...its more of the type of character he is, rather than actually physicial appearance.

as he's doing you, he would probably scream out "this is sparta!!" and crap like that. his personality is unatractive and it doesn't go with his look. he looks cool, but he's like a dumb brute.

Judging by how much I HATED 300... But either way, groaning and brute talk isnt bad ;) But I guess... All the time would be terrible... But IDK, can't say that I've been with a brute/brute talking person... Sounds intriguing though :hmmm:
 

Judging by how much I HATED 300... But either way, groaning and brute talk isnt bad ;) But I guess... All the time would be terrible... But IDK, can't say that I've been with a brute/brute talking person... Sounds intriguing though :hmmm:

he sounds like that 24/7. everything that comes out of his mouth. thats why i compared him to the hulk. but hulk may nto be eyecandy, but he is an intriguing character. An alter-ego etc. similar to Dr. Jeckyle and Mr. Hyde (or however you spell it)
 
he sounds like that 24/7. everything that comes out of his mouth. thats why i compared him to the hulk. but hulk may nto be eyecandy, but he is an intriguing character. An alter-ego etc. similar to Dr. Jeckyle and Mr. Hyde (or however you spell it)

I would definitely say the Hulk has some attractive qualities... (And I'm NOT talking about the supposed gargantuan penis... :hmph:.)
 
Oh boy....

Its not about characters like from Gears of War.. Its about not having girly men. Skinny boys are bullshit imo. If Cloud was realistic he wouldnt be able to pick up the buster sword.

I really hated Vaan's character design he should have worn a shirt.

Despite tht I still played the game, but they did annoy me.

Deus Ex -> Adam Jensen is not skinny but not super muscular but he is a manly fucking man. He is believable.
Sam Fischer from splintercell not muscular.

In order to be physically strong you need muscles. Skinny boys tend to have different assets/qualities.

Gears of War needs kickass muscular soldiers because its believable against superthug aliens.
Sam Fisher doesnt need a super physical buffed body cause he relies on stealth.
Adam Jensen on augmentations.

Cloud? How in the hell could he pick up his sword easily? (dont get me wrong I loved Cloud and his awesome sword)

Auron not super muscular but believable.

I dont like girly men at all nor metrosexuals cause thats not my style and thus I don want to see them in my games. If these persons are certain of their sexualities Its fine by me but dont give me bullshit char designs and over the top shit please keep it real.
 
he sounds like that 24/7. everything that comes out of his mouth. thats why i compared him to the hulk. but hulk may nto be eyecandy, but he is an intriguing character. An alter-ego etc. similar to Dr. Jeckyle and Mr. Hyde (or however you spell it)

Kratos respects some people like his daughter and doesnt speak like a pig all the time unless he is angry about some shit the gods did to him.
 
If Cloud was realistic he wouldnt be able to pick up the buster sword.


Cloud? How in the hell could he pick up his sword easily? (dont get me wrong I loved Cloud and his awesome sword)

You do realize that Zack is pretty much the same size as Cloud, just slightly taller, right? Him and Cloud went through very severe training and workouts, and haven't you noticed that Cloud wasn't super muscular, but it was obvious he still had muscle. Some of the same size as Cloud that went through heavy training would probably be able to pick up the sword as well.

I don't mind girly guys, as I've mentioned before. Skinny/girly guys in video games aren't bad, but neither are manly guys.
 
Oh boy....

Its not about characters like from Gears of War.. Its about not having girly men. Skinny boys are bullshit imo. If Cloud was realistic he wouldnt be able to pick up the buster sword.

I really hated Vaan's character design he should have worn a shirt.

Despite tht I still played the game, but they did annoy me.

Deus Ex -> Adam Jensen is not skinny but not super muscular but he is a manly fucking man. He is believable.
Sam Fischer from splintercell not muscular.

In order to be physically strong you need muscles. Skinny boys tend to have different assets/qualities.

Gears of War needs kickass muscular soldiers because its believable against superthug aliens.
Sam Fisher doesnt need a super physical buffed body cause he relies on stealth.
Adam Jensen on augmentations.

Cloud? How in the hell could he pick up his sword easily? (dont get me wrong I loved Cloud and his awesome sword)

Auron not super muscular but believable.

I dont like girly men at all nor metrosexuals cause thats not my style and thus I don want to see them in my games. If these persons are certain of their sexualities Its fine by me but dont give me bullshit char designs and over the top shit please keep it real.

And I don't like ugly butish pigdogs nor bodybuilders at all either. I do not want them infesting my games. They are not my style.
It's unrealistic. How can a man that looks like cid, kratos, barret, marcus fenix or jecht go outside without scaring people with their ugly pigfaces. :mokken:

FInal fantasy needs hot bishies to act as eye candy . I mean look at kingdom hearts, i bet that if all the males were ugly hulk-look creatures few people would play the game.

Why do people want ugly characters in videogames. If they put hulklike cratures in final fantasy, they should change all the sexy/scantily clad females into butch-dyke looking creatures. :mokken:
 
LMao could you imagine Kratos an ex spartan a man of war who tears heads off being a little wimpy boy? Loooooooooooool dont think so

they like manly men cuz manly men get the fucking job done and they do it like a badass. Its the same with female lead characters. Theyre always strong female characters not girly girls worried about breaking a nail. Theyre hard chicks who aint afraid to get theyre hands dirty and deal out some damage.
 
They train hard and theyre proud of theyre bodies. Besides if your lara croft and your gunna be climbing fucking cliffs and shit then its gunna be more practical to wear something thats not gunna restrict you. A long dress might get caught on a ragged edge or something. And take tekken for example. all the men can have theyre shirts off. Heck most do as theyre standard uniform. Its all to add a little sexiness to a game. Its like how ugly people never really get starring roles in films. they do the same with games. Not everyone thank god shares the same views about pretty boys as you do.

and from my experience in real life. Manly looking men tend to be the fighters of the real world. Not the pretty boys. Our soldiers fighting this blood war are strong for a reason. They have to be to survive
 
It's unrealistic. How can a man that looks like cid, kratos, barret, marcus fenix or jecht go outside without scaring people with their ugly pigfaces. :mokken:

In that case, I really do hope you're an absolute looker yourself. :lew:

I laughed at your use of "unrealistic", because oh my God! realism is so totally important when it comes to the look and feel of characters! Especially in something called Final Fantasy that has to conform to something that's at least plausible in the realms of reality! Cid Highwind is clearly unrealistic because he looks like he's approaching middle-aged and in his prime, while Cloud on the other hand is certainly one of the most realistic beauties ever, having a frame like that, yet being able to effortlessly swing an object around that must weigh as much as your average moped.

Why do people want ugly characters in videogames. If they put hulklike cratures in final fantasy, they should change all the sexy/scantily clad females into butch-dyke looking creatures. :mokken:

No, people generally just want male characters that at least look like men and are capable of emerging alive from a fight. Put your average "bishie" who looks like he spends three times longer getting ready to go out for the night than the fussiest of women in an epic adventure where he has to join in the fight against legions of demonic monsters, trained enemy army soldiers and maybe some Gods with other bishies and scantily-clad female characters? And emerge totally unscathed and alright, even though it looks like they would all have been easily mauled by a wounded badger? I know JRPGs and Final Fantasy are obviously not meant to be realistic, but at the same time, there is a certain level of realism that is needed before the player is just utterly put off by the total inability to suspend their disbelief at all the stupid.

I suppose you also had major grievances with FFXII's Basch then. Look at the guy. He looks middle-aged, a bit shaggy, scarred - ewwww, ugly! He would have been far better off as a 17-year old guy with an extremely flawless, unblemished face, with as much facial hair as Toy Story's Woody and the most delicate and feminine jawline ever. That would have made a far more convincing ex-military general surely. Pfft.

God, I don't even know why I'm bothering because I'm really struggling to take you seriously. This will all go over your head anyway.
 
When I play videogames I want to look at aesthetically pleasing things. If I wanted to look at ugly things, I'd just go outside. Why do people care so much about realism in a series that involves magic? If pretty skinny boys bother you because they are "unrealistic" , they use magic to enable them to lift big swords , put their hair in place, heal small wouds and enchance their beauty. Happy now?

I thought basch was slightly below average-looking but not hideous (like cid or auron). He didn't bother me too much. If he got a makeover he'd look like a hot bishie. :D
 
I think it's due to the fact there hasn't been a badass male lead since Squall. Zidane? Not really. Tidus? Starts off wimpy but learns to grow a set over time. Vaan? Get out. :brow:

So yeah, and with XIII, XIII-2 aswell as LR being female leads maybe people want a badass male lead back too? Instead of having Uncle Snow or the badassery that is Hope Estheim.. :srsly: But we have Versus for that, only problem is.. well, it's stuck in the Realm of Darkness. :bored:
 
I think it's due to the fact there hasn't been a badass male lead since Squall. Zidane? Not really. Tidus? Starts off wimpy but learns to grow a set over time. Vaan? Get out. :brow:

So yeah, and with XIII, XIII-2 aswell as LR being female leads maybe people want a badass male lead back too? Instead of having Uncle Snow or the badassery that is Hope Estheim.. :srsly: But we have Versus for that, only problem is.. well, it's stuck in the Realm of Darkness. :bored:

Auron in my opinion is "one" of the leads honestly. Yea yea Tidus and Yuna, but honestly I was more interested in Auron due to towards the end he was actually not a hardass as most people thought. When he was exposed for being what he was and his story was retold, it was pretty damn sad.

Auron for el presidente.
 
It's a fantasy RPG we're talking about here.So...weird clothing and character design are kinda obligatory,XD.
Although I don't like the take the OP has on the ugly guys.We actually need some ugly girls,or all girls in FF universe are beautiful?
Anyway,there are more important things than the surface and I think FF has more to offer than just beautiful faces(either male or female) like very awesome looking FMVs and effects or environment.Personally I don't complain much.It's not as if I like every good-looking guy in the FF series or discard every bad looking one.It all comes down to personality.Most of us love Vivi cause he's adorable not cause he looks pretty or beautiful.
 
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