Fan Fiction Dissidia 012 Discussion

[Terra Branford]

Of course she knows that they are guys. That was not the point of what I said though. Dead Fantasy is fan service as far as I am concerned. It is still well done though. What would an all girls Dissidia be like? Who will be the strong girl hero like WOL who will lead? Also who will be all the girls on the villian's side? I would think Terra but that is only cause she is my fav character in Dissidia. But Lightning is my favorite now as I liked her very much and she is a solid leader

I thought it was 2012 also but I imagine that is wrong. I can now say with Warrior of light's helmet on the floor like that, There will be an all new story.

Oh...then why'd you say "Cecil and Kain are guys" like she didn't know it? >.>

Of course Dead Fantasy is a fan service, its not canon as far as I know.

Wait, you don't think there are physically strong females in FF? Terra, Cecil, Lighting, Ashe, Yuna, Rikku, Pain and the little girl in 5. I got her as strong as my Buntz lol

There are plenty of girls who could take "WoR"'s place.

The Villains could remain the same. We're talking about the hero side, or at least I and Sky+Earth were.

(hurr hurr, you know you love the Terra **)

I hope there is a new story. The old one....kinda just seemed like a rehash that could screwed up and put back into Dissidia. (100 years after the War of Magi? Waaah?).

 

[Noblesse Oblige]

Just Square-Enix or gaming in general? If it's the latter, off the top of my head:
- Mass Effect 2
- Red Dead Redemption
- Super Mario Galaxy 2
- Heavy Rain
- Halo Reach [I don't think it's 10/10, but it looks a solid title]
- Batman: Arkham Asylum

I don't know about the profits since I haven't seen any fiscal reports or NPDs from companies in the last few months. I mean, at the end of the day I couldn't care less if Square-Enix developed hundreds of titles a year or just one, but what does bother me is when they start releasing games of substandard quality. Square-Enix used to be a company you'd look forward to purchasing games from, Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX are regarded as some of the best RPGs of all time, but nowadays, well...

Well what can you say and what can you do, really. Me, I'll keep buying their games and wait till when (and not if) the Video Game Crash happens.

 

[Celica]

@Terra Brandford: Did you put Cecil on the list of physically strong Females? I blame the purple lipstick, ROFL. XDDDD

An all female cast in Dissidia would be cool.
But then I get the feeling that people will go about saying it's ''another FFX-2.'' But Dead Fantasy is pretty popular (fanservice!), so who knows? :3

 

[Rey]

Oh...then why'd you say "Cecil and Kain are guys" like she didn't know it? >.>

Of course Dead Fantasy is a fan service, its not canon as far as I know.

Wait, you don't think there are physically strong females in FF? Terra, Cecil, Lighting, Ashe, Yuna, Rikku, Pain and the little girl in 5. I got her as strong as my Buntz lol

There are plenty of girls who could take "WoR"'s place.

The Villains could remain the same. We're talking about the hero side, or at least I and Sky+Earth were.

(hurr hurr, you know you love the Terra **)

I hope there is a new story. The old one....kinda just seemed like a rehash that could screwed up and put back into Dissidia. (100 years after the War of Magi? Waaah?).

But if it was an all females game we would need a female villian for each FF now would we? Very successful ones though. Like FF IV we wouldnt have Barbaricia would we?

 

[Terra Branford]

But if it was an all females game we would need a female villian for each FF now would we? Very successful ones though. Like FF IV we wouldnt have Barbaricia would we?

Well, we weren't talking about villains. We wanted to see a all female hero roster.

Sure, why not, make the villains females too. Doesn't matter. Unless people are sexist.

 

[Fusionist]

well the little description underneath the logo in that pic says 'the story of defeat that leads to the final battle'. Maybe he dies

or maybe it just represents the end of the war. who knows

Awwww Dx

Or...whatever it turns out to be

I'm really not expecting a big epic story for this kind of game. It's the character interactions I liked more than the story :3

 

[Ohri-Jin]

Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy: first look at Lightning

http://www.vg247.com/2010/09/13/dissidia-duodecim-final-fantasy-first-look-at-lightning/#more-117634

Square Enix has taken the wraps off the sequel to Dissidia: Final Fantasy, known as Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy.

A teaser site for the game, http://www.vg247.com/2010/09/08/dissidia-final-fantasy-sequel-announced-in-japan/[URL="http://www.vg247.com/2010/09/08/dissidia-final-fantasy-sequel-announced-in-japan/"]which was announced last week[/url] in Jump magazine, [/COLOR][URL="http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia_012/"][U][COLOR=orange]opened up[/COLOR][/U][/url] overnight, and features a first look at one of the game’s characters: Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII.
In addition, Square confirmed the action title will be playable at Tokyo Game Show this week, with a full blow-out coming this week in the new issue of Famitsu on Wednesday.
The publication has a piece on it http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/images/00033399/qphfDBxx9Kt52O4RG6qHVdS1zeQYKwFt.html[URL="http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/images/00033399/qphfDBxx9Kt52O4RG6qHVdS1zeQYKwFt.html"]here[/url].
Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy releases next year for PSP.
Thanks, http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/13/dissidia_teaser_site/[URL="http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/13/dissidia_teaser_site/"]Andriasang[/url].

 

[AkaRed35]

Those scans real look promising! do you guys think Dissidia 012 will be playable in TGS (this week)?

What's that bar under the health bar?

 

[Ramiel]

NEW INFO ANNOUNCED

Duodecium Details from Nomura Interview
Fresh from Japanese gaming blog Remoon, we have the keynotes from the Famitsu Interview with Nomura, including information the entirely new battle element - The Assist System. Here is the bulletin translated -

• Kouichi Yamadera will reprise his role as Kain
• Sugawara Bunta will reprise his role as Cid
• Lightning will be able to use Paradigm Shifts (Optima Changes in the Japanese version), changing between Commando (Attacker), Ravager (Blaster), and Medic (Healer) using L and R.
• The new Assist System allows you to call in an ally, allowing for up to four characters to be on the field at once.
• Pressing L+O when one bar of the Assist Gauge will summon an ally for one Brave Attack. Pressing L+□ when both bars are full to summon them for an HP Attack.
• Assists can break combos.
• (Translator's Note: I'm not entirely sure about the next two items, but it sounds like you can't use the Assist System while in EX-Mode.)
• Pursuit times have been made shorter.
• All the characters from the previous game will return.
• Kain and Lightning are not the only new characters. It will be more than just a few.
• All characters will have three costumes. (1 Normal and 2 Alternates each)
• There will be new summons added.
• All the maps from the first game are back and there will be twice as many music tracks.
• Communications Mode (AKA 2 Player Mode) has been stregthened.
• Save Data from the first game can be transfered over.
• The meaning behind "012" is a spoiler.
• The details about the Story Mode and the system it will use are a secret.
• There will be more retro/original game music tracks.
• Release is not too far off.
• A secret gameplay element will debut in the TGS Demo.

FF-Reunion also covers the same interview and notes that Maaya Sakamoto will reprise her role as Lightning.

OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT

 

[Fusionist]

All that sounds pretty exciting. At least the game seems to be more than a simple rehash with a few novelties added. Looking forward to seeing more info about this ^^

Especially like the save data from the old game. Wonder what goodies we can expect then :3

 

[Rorolina Frixell]

Hopefully more than the old equipment and levels, I don't want half the game finished before I start

If it's just some bonus items i'd be all for it

Also it seems Lightning gets her medic role, possibly we can expect some healer characters like Yuna or Eiko?

 

[Ramiel]

New scans

oh shit oh shit Holy Dragoon

and is that a stage from XIII?

edit: a partial translation of this http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia_012/tgs2010/dissidia012_list.jpg

Kain gets that crystal pillar attack as his R+[] move in EX mode. It's a HP attack.
WoL has a new "Ultimate Shield" ground HP attack.
Cloud has an aerial Meteorain.
Firion has a new "Load of Arms" ground HP attack.
Kuja has a new "Force Symphony" aerial HP attack.
Terra has a new Fire > Firaga HP chain.

 

[Fusionist]

Holy shi - IS THAT KAIN'S alt. costume? O_O

...He looks quite pretty underneath that mask

I guess they won't be showing any new characters until later. Maybe at TGS?

 

[VinnieJones]

I can offer some translations:

from the first scan;

There's a new system called 'assist system', where you can temporarily call upon an ally. The ally attacks the enemy and goes away. The length of time is short, but it can be a useful strategy.

So as I suspected, the orange bar below the HP gauge was a new feature! fun fun fun!!! The screenshot of this has Seph helping out Terra who's fighting Cloud, who's getting aid from Kefka.

features of Lightning and Kain; Lightning can switch fightning styles mid-battle, she can attack, use magic or go healing style. Kain is a more simple type, specializing in aerial attacks with unique Dragoon moves (also says he has Gungnir which is a standard HP attack and Dragon Sword which steals Hp!)

I think I'm going to adore Kain...

From the second scan;
Kain's Ex-burst is his Holy Dragoon form.

you can no longer enter Ex-mode to counter HP attacks; the assist sytem does this in its place. So therefore players are more encouraged to attack the opponent even if their Ex-gauge is full

hmmmm might need some getting used to this...

also at the bottom of the second scan it says something about changes to the Chase attack (unfortunately the vital section is hidden by the white writing...). it says that it's more high tempo, which can only be good as I hardly ever chased in the old Dissidia due to it's predictability.

 

[The Illusive Man]

looking good, im especially liking the changes to ex-mode breaking combos in favor of the assist system, as sometimes against antiquities npcs they would always perfectly break a combo (being hard to hit as it is was frustrating)


I'm really hoping Gilgamesh is among the new characters, as now more than ever dissidia is suited for him being a combatant, even if he just shows up as an "ally" only it'd be something.

 

[Captain Squee]

My main, Warrior of Light is returning Do you think their moves will all be the same/similar? I hope not to be honest, though I am used to it I could use some change...

 

[The Witch]

Ooh, Cloud!
Cool they're gonna have 3 sets of clothes, too. Wonder what Cloud's will be. Probably KHI clothes... which is hot. I hope Terra gets some newer clothes and stuff, it'd be cool. Also, I don't like Terra that much, but if she doesn't get to use a sword in this one I'm gonna be very annoyed.She doesn't just use magic and crap, sheesh!

I do hope they add some kind of minigames or somethin... who knows, it could happen. Ooh, and it'd be awesome if they added way more levels.


Here's hoping I see it before 2012

 

[Terra Branford]

God...Why didn't they give her sword! SHE HAD ONE TOO!

Who ever is in charge of weapon distribution, deserves to be kicked in the balls! Its like these idiots never even played FF6. 100 years after the War of Magi? Terra with no sword!? SHE USED ULTIMA WEAPON!

What is wrong with these freakin' idiots!

They better amend it, or I will send them some threats I mean some emails.

But oh! Like we Terra fans will care if she gets a fireball move, or a new costume. I want to play Terra as she was in FF6! Not this screwed up version!

/rant

They better at least put Edgar in this. Since they screwed up the best character ever by taking away from her, they need to put the chainsawin' madman Edgar in it. Maybe then I'll be happy.

The ally support sounds nice, but I have a huge feeling its gonna be the same basic game but with new characters :/

 

[Dionysos]

Ooh, Cloud!
Cool they're gonna have 3 sets of clothes, too. Wonder what Cloud's will be. Probably KHI clothes... which is hot.

I think that I'd rather like to see him in his Shinra soldier uniform. Not necessarily the younger Cloud, but the Cloud we see at Junon where he has to dress up and do the drills at Rufus' Welcoming Ceremony.

I hope Terra gets some newer clothes and stuff, it'd be cool. Also, I don't like Terra that much, but if she doesn't get to use a sword in this one I'm gonna be very annoyed.She doesn't just use magic and crap, sheesh!

I can't agree more there. Terra had her sword in the official artwork for Dissidia, but she (as far as I can remember) didn't use it in battle. Terra was meant to be a combination of both magic and sword fighting.

I think that the lack of a general fight option in the original Dissidia was one of the major things that the game lacked. By this I mean what most fighting games have - the casual punches and kicks which aren't a special attack. Terra could easily have had some normal'ish sword moves, and other characters could have had easy slashing / smashing / etc moves with their weapons. Spamming two or three special attacks every second of a fight got irritating in Dissidia, especially with the repetitive voice over, so it would be good to break it up with a few 'normal' attacks.


Now as for the big reveal that there will be quite a few more than Kain and Lightning, and also three costumes each... If that is really true then that is fantastic! We have to be careful not to be too excited here though. I remember that an old reveal for the original Dissidia stated that there would be four costumes for each character, and it turned out that that really only meant two costumes with two Ex-Mode costumes to go with them. I think that saying there will be three costumes is likely to actually mean it this time though, but I'm just going to be cautious.

Great reveal though, and it certainly leaves this open for a lot of speculation as to the characters, maps, alt costumes and music that they may include (which I might post about tomorrow).

 

[GalaxyFlare]

I can't agree more there. Terra had her sword in the official artwork for Dissidia, but she (as far as I can remember) didn't use it in battle. Terra was meant to be a combination of both magic and sword fighting.

Terra only used her Sword during Chase sequences Argor.

Holy shit is that 2 on 2 game play I saw there?
Screw this I go find some info an this game.