Was Kimahri a Worthless Character in Battle?

I guess so. But, by him being average he can learn other people's skills and hop to the other sphere grids before anyone else can.

The topic asks if he is useless. I don't think he's useless. He can be useful if on the right sphere grid.
 
My Yuna has just learned an ability "Copycat" but does she need it? No. Kimahri can learn it though. What I'm trying to say is that, when you travel around the sphere grid and, let's say Auron ends up on Curaga, however his Magic is very low. It's up to you to learn it. In Kimahri's place, you can activate sphere nods without doubts. That way he could master every Ability. It doesn't matter about strength. You get what I'm saying?
 
I can distinctly remember Nova being an area-effect magic, meaning that unlike single-hitting magics like Flare, this one targets all opponents a la Ultima. So long as there's 2 or more enemies in the fray, this is one instance where using Nova you can technically deal more than 99,999 damage in a single turn depending on the enemies' Magic Defence stat to Kimahri's. Doublecast + Ultima would probably more ideal magic-wise though, but you would benefit from Quick Hits in the long run if you want to minimise MP consumption.

However, multi-hitting capabilities should not be underestimated, and this is a department where Kimahri is deeply lacking in compared to the others. Once you've completed the game, and have plans to conquer the Monster Arena (or the Dark Aeons/Penance in the PAL release), Kimahri's limitations will be revealed even more.
 
The thing is, once you get everyone to max potential on the sphere grid, Single Overdrives that only do area affecting, or single 99999 is useless, because by this time, everyone would be capable of dishing out Ultima on a regular basis. Not only that, but if my FFX memory serves me correctly, if you touch the savepoint again, your completely healed, so the loss of mp means very little in this game, and shouldn't at all by the time your powerhouses.

In the Monster Arena is definetly where you'll see the limitations of characters who cannot deal out 99999 in numerous successions within a single turn. Yuna w/ Yojimbo seriously would be God Tier if at times Yojimbo wasn't as random, because she can wipe out any opponent in the Monster Arena with one single turn.

Lulu has the most potential to deal out the most damage though, I've had it where I've done 14 Hits with her Overdrive with Ultima, this would've suprassed even Aurons 12 hits with Attack Reels. However, the only reason I didn't push Lulu above Wakka, is that doing 12+ rotations to get that potential is tough, while Wakka's is much easier and far more consistent.

I will however admit this, the tier listing for characters from playthrough, Khimari is actually quite solid due to him having Pierce+Power to back him up, and his OD's are fairly useful, but unfortunately at their strongest points, Khimari gets outshined severely.
 
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I would actually say Lulu is quite worthless towards the middle of the game more than Kimahri.

If you had made Yuna learn Lulu's black magic skills then Yuna could kick some serious ass. Mhm...

Lulu I actually stopped using. =/.
 
Gabranth said:
But if you compare stone breath to attack reels or oblivion or blitz ace then stone breath becomes FAILED. Not to mention there are no bosses that can be petrified.
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Comparatively, yes... but honestly who uses that kind of skill? =/
Gabranth said:
Nova looked cool but was still a 1 hit overdrive so it FAILED.
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Oh stop being so fucking ignorant for a change. No he couldn't ultimately deal as much damage as others, but that doesn't mean to say he was entirely incompetent in battle.

He has a good STR value, and decent enough magic power. Which you could easily enhance by accessing another's grid. Challenging to do? Not in the slightest. Worthless fighter? Not unless you're fighting Nemesis, the Dark Aeons, or Penance.
 
Ignorant? I'm merely saying his overdrives aren't very good.

And besides, if you choose the expert sphere grid he becomes even worse since he starts out next to everyone else which renders his ability to be 'flexible' useless compared to everyone else.
 
it isnt ignorant kimahris overdrives just SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

come on his last overdrive is nova hit 1 time thats 1 99999 wakkas hits like 12 even yunas have a bigger purpose (they are good in a nsg challenge)

and saix whats with the adttitude as i was once told here everyone was titled to their own opionion. plus once kihmari completes his own he has to start out near the begining of everyone eles which make him really go down


plus when you are fully upgraded with 255 stats the only thing that matters is ovewrdrives i mean come on kihmari can learn doom as a overdrive DOOM i think that speaks for it self


and when saix said Worthless fighter? Not unless you're fighting Nemesis, the Dark Aeons, or Penance. thoes are the only fights that matter all ov the others are too easy except a nsg challenge with shinryu but he cant fight that fight
 
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Kimhari is just a joke. Seriously. JOKE. The Ronso has nothing going for him. Apart from his semi-dreadlocks which he stole from Lulu. And she makes it look hot. He makes it look like a cross between a biker and a nightmare on elms street. Its all about agility, and he fails. In DotA from WC3 he's one of the best characters ironically being an agi hero that can windwalk, but square decided to fuck him over here. Poor bastard. He's a shit version of quistis in terms of limit breaks, I mean her shockwave pulsar has a break damage limit while you have to go round catching butterflies. The sphere grid hurts your eyes as you get 1 clear sphere and +3 for every thing you delete and add...which takes about a week of solid playing if you're going for that whole "i'm amazing look at me I killed penance". Kimhari wasn't dealt a good hand. His weapons are rather lame apart from piercing which helps with about 3 story fights, maximum (two of operation mihen and defender X, I'd say). R.I.P. ronso.
 
Not in the slightest.

As a fighter, in the middle of the game, he is the most useful character, being able to pull off cheesy shots like stone breath on Seymour's guado-guards and he is just as hard as anyone else at max power. Also, Nova looks pretty.

If you're going to say Khimari is useless because you can't fight the Dark Aeons with him, then you are as dumb as fried shit: that would be like saying
"having normal characters in your team is pointless because you have Yojimbo (Yojimbo + money = kickass-ness)"

As a character in himself, I think he's pretty cool. He's a grumpy blue lion, for Christ's sake.
Also, he is used as a wonderful means to see Yuna properly, who, really is of the only two characters in the game whom you really need. (Tidus is the other)
 
I'm not saying he's pointless because you can't fight the dark aeons. I'm saying he's pointless because his sphere grid is fucked up, both on standard and expert; there's locks on level 1 everywhere at the beginning so he can't learn anything new, the best thing to do with kimhari would be to just follow tidus's path on expert grid, because he needs agility and str. however he still can't cut it. He's there with lulu. At the end of the game, when it comes down to it, you've got wakka, tidus, yuna, rikku, auron. I don't use auron that much purely because he can't get more than 2 attacks per round with his overdrive and about 100 hours or so most people have their break dmg limit weapons. That's all. I'm not saying kimhari is shit completely, sure he's useful. In the storyline. But you could get deathtouch or TKO for wakka and do the same thing to seymours guards, or as I usually do, just overkill them with the added strength tidus and auron get. I mean its all about getting the most hits in the least turns in the end, so really I just use the aeons for protection, quickhits and stamina tablets etc, and seeing as how rikku's overdrive can have the same effect as mighty guard, why use kimhari? same with lulu, her black magic overdrive can't do much damage against endgame bosses, minus the story line ones, and if we're talking about story line then its a completely different ballgame, you can just fight through using anyone and it'll work, purely because bosses like yu yevon and seymour really aren't much against break damage limit. might as well use yuna solo or something
 
The problem wasn't the fact that I think Kimahri was a useless character, I just did not have the heart to train him as well as the others. So if I were to neglect anyone's training in the game, Kimahri would likely be the first.

First time through the game, I did neglect Kimahri in FFX, but after playing FFX a second time, I trained him a little better but it wasn't like I was making him go through onto someone else's Sphere Grid. I'm just the gamer that doesn't want to do with that stuff. I rather dread it. In fact... I think I carried him over to Lulu's area. My bad! But I already beat this game once... Once is good enough for me.
 
well i totally wanna say tha Kimahri was a worthless character cause i didnt have no use for him i thought he was just good in the story line as he was Yuna's guardian and he is a part of the ronso tribe so i guess hes not so bad after all
 
Kimarhi wasn't all useless..hes was ok. The thing i didnt like about it was his path in the Sphere Grid was stupid..you couldnt go anywhere lol. Other than that he was ok.
 
Yellow Opera said:
Not in the slightest.

As a fighter, in the middle of the game, he is the most useful character, being able to pull off cheesy shots like stone breath on Seymour's guado-guards and he is just as hard as anyone else at max power. Also, Nova looks pretty.

If you're going to say Khimari is useless because you can't fight the Dark Aeons with him, then you are as dumb as fried shit: that would be like saying
"having normal characters in your team is pointless because you have Yojimbo (Yojimbo + money = kickass-ness)"

As a character in himself, I think he's pretty cool. He's a grumpy blue lion, for Christ's sake.
Also, he is used as a wonderful means to see Yuna properly, who, really is of the only two characters in the game whom you really need. (Tidus is the other)
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the last time i checked.. thoes where the only hard bosses in the game lol.
as for yojimbo well.. have fun getting all that money agin and agin
i seriously dont see why you people cant see that when your charaters are fully upgraded the ONLY repeat ONLY thing that matters is how good you 0verdrives are. Sonetbreath? didnt rikku have petrify grenades that did the same thing. not to mention it auctually did damage if the stone didnt go through unlike a certian giant blue cat lol. Nova? you could just use aurons banishing blade only hits one person and does breaks.. hmm what eles. Jump. this overdrive was a joke also. HE FAILS LOL
 
And i dont seriously see why you always resort to demanding things from people and questioning a thread all the time.

I always tried to make Kimahri as tough as possible. So really if people found him useless, isnt that because you didnt buff him up as much as you could??
 
i was a player that put every character in battle every single battle so that they all got sphere points, this helped a lot in the long run cause all my characters could do huge amounts of damage with their celestial weapons. so when it all came down to it, kimahri was just as strong as auron or tidus for me. he was just as valueable as anyone else.
 
hmmmm... to each his own right???? the only thing that matters is overdrives. i mean with the right ammount of training lulus dolls can do as much damages as kihmari and his spiritlance


as for saphirestar dont question me. ive done nothing rong. and that post was pretty off topic fyi
 
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